Poor perfomance with FX-6300

[GLarrson]

4 minutes ago, GLarrson said:

29 minutes ago, JefferyD90 said:

Okay, so here is a little bit of knowledge for you... 

 

Picking your motherboard is certainly the most important decision you'll make when building a machine.  It will tell you everything that you can use.  And while the motherboard itself does NOT in anyway affect performance, it certainly affect the capabilities of everything around the motherboard.  A great example is the VRM design of the motherboard.  To put it simple, a better VRM design (which to be fair isn't something that we can actually give you a stat on, while typically more VRM's are better this isn't always the case) will allow you to overclock the CPU MUCH further and will allow the CPU to perform at its maximum for longer.  This is just one example of how a motherboard will affect your system.  But I do digress.  While your motherboard is not a high end one by any stretch, it is certainly a capable motherboard for the rest of the system.

 

I do want to build on the memory situation though, QVL memory is still certainly a huge part of system componentry.  If you'll visit your motherboards manufacture page: http://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/M5A78LM_LX3/ You can go to the support area and download the latest drivers, as well as look at the memory and CPU supported list.  While there may be CPU's or RAM that is supported that is not on this list, it is not recommended to venture too far outside of this list.  Each motherboard is different, so don't assume that it is the case.  This is the current list for your motherboard: http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM3+/M5A78L-M_LX3/M5A78L-M_LX_report_150727.pdf Go down that list and see if your current RAM model number (don't just look at timing and speeds, the model number is what is important) and make sure it is on that list.  We want to make sure that your motherboard will set it up correctly.

Soo, I just checked You'r gived link, and no mine exact model of RAM is not qualified.

Forgot to mention, seems like CPU is supported. Soo Should I invest money in supported RAM?

[Bit8xPr0]

1 hour ago, GLarrson said:

Using these options as long as I'm playing CS, doesnt seem like they'r giving anything good:/

Well if you have the latest drivers there's not really much you can do. All these people telling you the FX is trash are just memes. I easily reached 300 FPS with my FX and R9 290

[Bit8xPr0]

1 hour ago, GLarrson said:

Forgot to mention, seems like CPU is supported. Soo Should I invest money in supported RAM?

No, if your ram is working it's obviously supported. Even if not listed, kind of difficult for manufacturers to put every type of ram in the supported list. Usually it just indicates speeds and timing so if your board only supports 1333 it will down clock your 1600 anyway. 

[JefferyD90]

1 hour ago, GLarrson said:

Forgot to mention, seems like CPU is supported. Soo Should I invest money in supported RAM?

 

Just now, Bit8xPr0 said:

No, if your ram is working it's obviously supported. Even if not listed, kind of difficult for manufacturers to put every type of ram in the supported list. Usually it just indicates speeds and timing so if your board only supports 1333 it will down clock your 1600 anyway. 

No, you probably don't need to buy new RAM.   My suggestion is to go and make sure that your RAM is at its appropriate timings and speeds in the BIOS.  Just because its working doesn't mean its performing.

[GLarrson]

1 hour ago, JefferyD90 said:

 

No, you probably don't need to buy new RAM.   My suggestion is to go and make sure that your RAM is at its appropriate timings and speeds in the BIOS.  Just because its working doesn't mean its performing.

Soo I checked mine bios, haven't found anything associated with RAM settings, but I found a solution! So I turned " Core C6 State" on auto. also I Enabled Unleashing mode. The CPU Q-Fan Mode was on silent. I setted it on standart. Seems like cpu right now is perfoming like 2x better. Even temps Are better! Now I get 140-260FPS in game ( depends on position in map ) I will include some screenshots:) Thanks for help!

[Hojoh]

One more thing. I saw dx 11 vs 12 and i saw diagrams that show cpu core usage in gaming. You should checj out that thing. Sorry but i forgot exact video.

[Nena Trinity]

If that board can handle a 4.5GHz OC you can try that, also faster RAM also helps to!

 

Edit: What game or program is the problem?

[GLarrson]

1 hour ago, Nena360 said:

If that board can handle a 4.5GHz OC you can try that, also faster RAM also helps to!

 

Edit: What game or program is the problem?

MOBO can handle the OC, but I'm on stock cooler, so I don't want to risk:/ 

[Nena Trinity]

2 hours ago, GLarrson said:

MOBO can handle the OC, but I'm on stock cooler, so I don't want to risk:/ 

Yes but which game or app is the one causing issues?

[Coaxialgamer]

10 hours ago, GLarrson said:

Well it will sound pretty stupid, but while playing games. I will take CS:GO as an example. Playing CS:GO on lowest graphical settings getting only 70-90 fps. All drivers are up to date. Also seems like CPU is giving to much heat. 20-40C (IDLE) 50-70(LOAD)

that is because cs:go only uses a couple threads , and the fx has very poor single thread performance

[Nena Trinity]

29 minutes ago, Coaxialgamer said:

that is because cs:go only uses a couple threads , and the fx has very poor single thread performance

He can force CS:GO to use more threads I made my game use 8 but in his case he should put in startup options "-threads 6"!

[GLarrson]

4 hours ago, Nena360 said:

Yes but which game or app is the one causing issues?

Problem was caused by fan propably, it was set to silent mode, also I enabled so called "Unleashing mode" Which gaved really good perfomance improvement.

[GLarrson]

4 hours ago, Nena360 said:

He can force CS:GO to use more threads I made my game use 8 but in his case he should put in startup options "-threads 6"!

CS:GO will never use all the cores. I have putted this command as long as I have this computer. Doesnt seem like it is working.

[Nena Trinity]

6 minutes ago, GLarrson said:

Problem was caused by fan propably, it was set to silent mode, also I enabled so called "Unleashing mode" Which gaved really good perfomance improvement.

Nice!

5 minutes ago, GLarrson said:

CS:GO will never use all the cores. I have putted this command as long as I have this computer. Doesnt seem like it is working.

It worked great in Ubuntu...

[JefferyD90]

On ‎2‎/‎14‎/‎2016 at 7:26 AM, GLarrson said:

Soo I checked mine bios, haven't found anything associated with RAM settings, but I found a solution! So I turned " Core C6 State" on auto. also I Enabled Unleashing mode. The CPU Q-Fan Mode was on silent. I setted it on standart. Seems like cpu right now is perfoming like 2x better. Even temps Are better! Now I get 140-260FPS in game ( depends on position in map ) I will include some screenshots:) Thanks for help!

Okay, so if you didn't have C6 state on then you're running your BIOS on a custom settings.  If you don't know what the settings do you really shouldn't change it.  The unleashing mode wont have any effect on your current CPU cause it doesn't have disabled cores.

[Darkseth]

Save for an i5 6500/6600, a B150 Motherboard, and 8/16gb DDR4 Ram.

And Upgrade. 

 

FX 6300 struggles with a really bad  Single Core performance (its only good, if you can make use of all 6 cores. If not, this is a low-end CPU, and thats exactly what you notice in CS/GO (even, if the CPU "should" be able to get more than 70 fps...)

[Dabombinable]

29 minutes ago, Darkseth said:

Save for an i5 6500/6600, a B150 Motherboard, and 8/16gb DDR4 Ram.

And Upgrade. 

 

FX 6300 struggles with a really bad  Single Core performance (its only good, if you can make use of all 6 cores. If not, this is a low-end CPU, and thats exactly what you notice in CS/GO (even, if the CPU "should" be able to get more than 70 fps...)

They could get more than 70fps, however you then have the problem of it not being able to run 70fps stable, with frequent dips into low double digits, or even single digits.

[TriviaBeast]

I would look into the BeQuiet! Shadow rock or whatever the cheap cpu cooler is called. A friend has one with a 6300 and it runs cool and quiet. It's a nice cooler for about 25 USD.

[Prysin]

your motherboard is causing CPU throttling due to VRM overheating. All ASUS boards has CPU throttling as a protective measure, however in your case it is working against you.As for performance in general, consider buying 2133 or 2400MHz RAM too. this will boost your minimum FPS with the FX CPU.
Also, amds temp sensor is well, shit. if you are around 20C on idle, that is GOOD. If you hit around 50C under load, that is perfectly NORMAL. Also if you are goign to buy a new mobo, CPU and shit... dont get a haswell i5, buy a SKYLAKE i5. Stop wasting time on old tech. get the new stuff that is faster, better, new parts are still in the orks. Haswell is dead, no newparts, the end.

Unless you are a serious gamer, willing to spend several hours a dy infront of your PC, i wouldnt bother buying a new CPU.For casual gaming, the FX 6300 is decent, spending 200 USD to get 5-10FPS isnt worth it unless you are seriously playing a lot of games.

 

As for CSGO, i hear some patch lately managed to screw something up performance wise, but it would be fixed by now i imagine.
 

[KuJoe]

What are you doing to make your CPU struggle? I can't make my FX-6300 bottleneck my system no matter how hard I try. People told me that if I ran games like Fallout 4 at max settings and recorded at 1080p 60 FPS it would cause slowness but I don't see any lag or stuttering. I even try running multiple VMs giving them each access to 2 cores and then stress test them but they still finish faster than my quad-core Xeon and it's only OC'ed to 4.1GHz.