which skylake?

[Enderman]

14 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

 

well if you look at customer satisfaction, asrock is far from the best

 

that modding tool works on any BIOS? does it disable or change any of the proprietary UEFI features?

 

thanks for actually posting some relevant info unlike jumper118's "ur wrong" very informative posts

[TheGamingBarrel]

Just now, Jumper118 said:

its a drop down menu in the bios, its not editing it, your just choosing the version, just like you can use and older gpu driver. also none of the bios's were ever offical in house made bios's and they are not from a dodgey source either. they were made by the overclocking community for us to oc locked chips. most of the guys who help put them together work for motherboard manufactures.  

Such as der8auer and NickShih.

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, Jumper118 said:

its a drop down menu in the bios, its not editing it, your just choosing the version, just like you can use and older gpu driver. also none of the bios's were ever offical in house made bios's and they are not from a dodgey source either. they were made by the overclocking community for us to oc locked chips. most of the guys who help put them together work for motherboard manufactures.  also this particular code update cant be done through windows.

i thought asrock and asus made official non-k overclocking BIOSes?

[TheGamingBarrel]

Just now, Enderman said:

i thought asrock and asus made official non-k overclocking BIOSes?

They did, then got pulled quickly, it is still in OC F's.

[Enderman]

Just now, TheGamingBarrel said:

They did, then got pulled quickly, it is still in OC F's.

but with that tool you posted then you can turn any BIOS into a non-k overclocking bios right?

[TheGamingBarrel]

Just now, Enderman said:

but with that tool you posted then you can turn any BIOS into a non-k overclocking bios right?

In theory yes, if I did get the right tool up.

[Jumper118]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

i thought asrock and asus made official non-k overclocking BIOSes?

they started work on it but intel stopped them straight away. all the bios's are on hwbot in the various threads. 

[Enderman]

Just now, TheGamingBarrel said:

In theory yes, if I did get the right tool up.

ok thanks for the info

i still wouldnt recommend a new PC user to do that process just to save a few bucks by not buying a non-k CPU though

[TheGamingBarrel]

Just now, Enderman said:

ok thanks for the info

i still wouldnt recommend a new PC user to do that process just to save a few bucks by not buying a non-k CPU though

But they can just download pre-made ones.

[Enderman]

Just now, TheGamingBarrel said:

But they can just download pre-made ones.

only if they have a motherboard that has a premade one...

[TheGamingBarrel]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

only if they have a motherboard that has a premade one...

And almost all do, name me a motherboard, I will grab a BIOS For it.

[Jumper118]

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

only if they have a motherboard that has a premade one...

well the krait has one so the op is all good. 

[TheGamingBarrel]

Just now, Jumper118 said:

well the krait has one so the op is all good. 

And I have already linked it

[Lays]

1 hour ago, Enderman said:

haha youre funny

you must be a CPU architecture engineer then right?

could you share with the rest of the world how to overclock skylake non-k CPUs after the update then?

 

1 hour ago, Enderman said:

all the motherboards that are being shipped and sold now have the new BIOS

so for someone LIKE OP building a new PC from scratch, the motherboard will not allow overclocking

 

It's not hard to find the old BIOS online, a simple asking around on hwbot forums or OCN should easily get you the BIOS.

 

I severely doubt they're pulling all motherboards from retailers and updating the BIOS, the BIOS that came with motherboards didn't support the overclocking in the first place, only the supermicro one did.  All other BIOS for OC'ing these CPU's was made after their releases and never shipped already on the board.

 

37 minutes ago, Enderman said:

well if you look at customer satisfaction, asrock is far from the best

 

that modding tool works on any BIOS? does it disable or change any of the proprietary UEFI features?

 

thanks for actually posting some relevant info unlike jumper118's "ur wrong" very informative posts

 

Depends on which Asrock board you look at IMO.  The OC Formula isn't anything like the rest of the boards they make, it's the only one Nick Shih helps design, the quality, and attention to detail is MUCH better. The BIOS is improved, the performance of basically all overclocking is improved, and just usability for overclocking is better than other boards I've owned. ( Nick Shih is an extreme overclocker that's been in the game for ages) 

[Lays]

51 minutes ago, Enderman said:

you still havent proven how you can "easily edit microcode" and make a bios overclockable on any motherboard

or are you talking about only the asrock motherboard which is no longer coming with that BIOS?

 

so people who want to overclock non-k CPUs need to buy a crappy asrock motherboard and download a BIOS from an unofficial source (since asrock no longer provides it) and then disable security updates on windows so that it doesnt get blocked with an update?

It's this easy:

 

 

 

 

 

[NumLock21]

Intel can't completely remove OC on non-Skylake because if they did, then turbo boost will not work.

Turbo boost is like OC, since the cpu it running beyond the rated spec. 

e.g. 2.4 stock to 3.2 turbo boost, the bclk or multiplier will sure go up in order for the cpu to go up to 3.2GHz.

IMO I'm guessing this microcode update basically, brings down the non-K oc back to where it was originally, like 103-105MHz bclk.

Too bad I don't have a skylake to play with...

[Qwerty2323]

Better is to use k processor but anyways your choice

[BrisoX]

2 minutes ago, Qwerty2323 said:

Better is to use k processor but anyways your choice

so you think getting an i5-6600K is way more better and worth it?

[Qwerty2323]

37 minutes ago, BrisoX said:

so you think getting an i5-6600K is way more better and worth it?

It is supported and ment for oc. As other have shown you can oc non k but with k you are going safe way and wont encounter any issues.

So might as well get 6600k if you have z170 board.

If you feel confident about your tech skills you can go non k.