which skylake?

[BrisoX]

So i have r9 380 4gb ddr5

16gb ddr4 

and MSI 170A krait gaming motherboard

i want to overclock via beta bios that is now "supported" via this Z-lane motherboards. 

would i5-6400 be better when overclocking to abt 4,2GHz 'cus it gave me more power (from 2,7GHz) or i5-6500 when OC-ing from 3,2 to 4,2GHz? also got CM hyper 212 evo cooling system

and 550 PSU is enough for this slight OC right?

[Flesky015]

non K CPU's arent overclockable anymore (if im correct), you need a K CPU

[TheGamingBarrel]

Just now, Flesky015 said:

non K CPU's arent overclockable anymore (if im correct), you need a K CPU

You can still use an old BIOS.

[Enderman]

you cant overclock the 6500 non-k

[BrisoX]

Just now, Flesky015 said:

non K CPU's arent overclockable anymore, you need a K CPU

new skylake series are overclockable via BCKL OC. of course you need to have Z-lane motherboard for that and that's still in beta version..

[BrisoX]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

you cant overclock the 6500 non-k

 

 

you can now 'cus they have separated generator for PCIe and DMI and that allows OC them even tho thay have lock multiplier

 

[TheGamingBarrel]

Just now, BrisoX said:

new skylake series are overclockable via BCKL OC. of course you need to have Z-lane motherboard for that and that's still in beta version..

Here is the BIOS For it.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/299637492/ShareX/2016/02/Z170AKRAIT-GAMING-E7984IMS.B5T.zip

[Enderman]

4 minutes ago, BrisoX said:

you can now 'cus they have separated generator for PCIe and DMI and that allows OC them even tho thay have lock multiplier

 

http://www.pcgamer.com/intel-puts-a-stop-to-overclocking-on-non-k-skylake-cpus/

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-intel-moves-to-shut-down-locked-skylake-cpu-overclocking

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/asrock-killed-overclocking-intel-skylake-nonk/

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3031255/hardware/its-official-intel-shuts-down-the-cheap-overclocking-party-by-closing-skylake-loophole.html

http://hexus.net/tech/news/mainboard/90323-intel-skylake-non-k-oc-koed-asrock/

https://www.techpowerup.com/219923/intel-pushes-cpu-microcode-update-which-cripples-overclocking-non-k-skylake-cpus.html

[TheGamingBarrel]

Just now, Enderman said:

http://www.pcgamer.com/intel-puts-a-stop-to-overclocking-on-non-k-skylake-cpus/

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-intel-moves-to-shut-down-locked-skylake-cpu-overclocking

Quote

Intel confirmed to PC World today that a microcode update will be closing the loophole.

Ignoring the fact you can edit microcode, and on certain boards you can just straight up have a menu to select different ones to use.

[Enderman]

1 minute ago, TheGamingBarrel said:

Ignoring the fact you can edit microcode, and on certain boards you can just straight up have a menu to select different ones to use.

haha youre funny

you must be a CPU architecture engineer then right?

could you share with the rest of the world how to overclock skylake non-k CPUs after the update then?

[TheGamingBarrel]

Just now, Enderman said:

haha youre funny

you must be a CPU architecture engineer then right?

could you share with the rest of the world how to overclock skylake non-k CPUs after the update then?

Extremely easily, @Layshas done it, a few people in my overclocking team have done it, @ProKoNhas on newer stuff iirc @Jumper118 Unsure if he was on newest BIOS.

[BrisoX]

http://overclocking.guide/msi-z170-non-k-overclocking-guide/

 

updated regularly? i think it would be possible or?

[Jumper118]

3 minutes ago, Enderman said:

haha youre funny

you must be a CPU architecture engineer then right?

could you share with the rest of the world how to overclock skylake non-k CPUs after the update then?

you can choose which microcode the cpu uses on the asrock ocf. also my msi gaming m7 is still working fine, unless i update the bios 

[TheGamingBarrel]

Just now, Jumper118 said:

you can choose which microcode the cpu uses on the asrock ocf. also my msi gaming m7 is still working fine, unless i update the bios 

@Enderman Huh, weird, people doing things that are normal? So, about the things I said, want to prove me wrong/.

[Enderman]

Just now, Jumper118 said:

you can choose which microcode the cpu uses on the asrock ocf. also my msi gaming m7 is still working fine, unless i update the bios 

clearly you didnt read the article about asrock stopping that

 

how about doing some research next time before you reply

i even posted the links since you seem to have trouble googling stuff

[TheGamingBarrel]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

clearly you didnt read the article about asrock stopping that

 

how about doing some research next time before you reply

i even posted the links since you seem to have trouble googling stuff

And we are actually talking to someone who USES it @Lays And unofficial BIOS are a thing.

Picture of a friends score on XTU With a i3 6320 That was just uploaded.

[Jumper118]

7 minutes ago, Enderman said:

haha youre funny

you must be a CPU architecture engineer then right?

could you share with the rest of the world how to overclock skylake non-k CPUs after the update then?

you dont have to update your bios....... so yeah you can do it as much as you like.

[TheGamingBarrel]

10 minutes ago, Enderman said:

haha youre funny

you must be a CPU architecture engineer then right?

could you share with the rest of the world how to overclock skylake non-k CPUs after the update then?

Also, most boards dont ship with the newest BIOS

Uploaded today, courtesy of @Jumper118

[Enderman]

Just now, TheGamingBarrel said:

And we are actually talking to someone who USES it @Lays And unofficial BIOS are a thing.

so youre going to go all the way to download an illegal BIOS with code that has been intentionally removed so that you can get speed you didnt pay for in the first place, AND also has risks that can make stuff in your OS malfunction?

 

Plus ive heard that windows will also be implementing measures to prevent those non-k chips from overclocking, idk if thats true or not

[TheGamingBarrel]

Just now, Enderman said:

so youre going to go all the way to download an illegal BIOS with code that has been intentionally removed so that you can get speed you didnt pay for in the first place, AND also has risks that can make stuff in your OS malfunction?

 

Plus ive heard that windows will also be implementing measures to prevent those non-k chips from overclocking, idk if thats true or not

"illegal" LMAO, also, the issues are AVX2 Not working properly, which I have only ever seen XTU And Prime95 Use.

[Jumper118]

2 minutes ago, TheGamingBarrel said:

Also, most boards dont ship with the newest BIOS

this exactly, for the next couple of weeks the brand new boards wont even  shipped with the new bios.

 

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

so youre going to go all the way to download an illegal BIOS with code that has been intentionally removed so that you can get speed you didnt pay for in the first place, AND also has risks that can make stuff in your OS malfunction?

 

Plus ive heard that windows will also be implementing measures to prevent those non-k chips from overclocking, idk if thats true or not

yes obviously....... also 

[Enderman]

2 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

you dont have to update your bios....... so yeah you can do it as much as you like.

all the motherboards that are being shipped and sold now have the new BIOS

so for someone LIKE OP building a new PC from scratch, the motherboard will not allow overclocking

[BrisoX]

Just now, Enderman said:

so youre going to go all the way to download an illegal BIOS with code that has been intentionally removed so that you can get speed you didnt pay for in the first place, AND also has risks that can make stuff in your OS malfunction?

 

Plus ive heard that windows will also be implementing measures to prevent those non-k chips from overclocking, idk if thats true or not

worth the risk isn't it?

i mean idk why intel wants to shut it down at all. that's great marketing for them and a big plus in my opinion

[TheGamingBarrel]

Just now, Enderman said:

all the motherboards that are being shipped and sold now have the new BIOS

so for someone LIKE OP building a new PC from scratch, the motherboard will not allow overclocking

Except they dont @LaysGot shipped with one where it told him HOW to do it with Sky OC, not an unofficial one.

[Raudi_]

1 minute ago, Enderman said:

clearly you didnt read the article about asrock stopping that

 

how about doing some research next time before you reply

i even posted the links since you seem to have trouble googling stuff

The OC Formula on post with the newer bios allow you to hit a key to enable skyOC still  to push it to your hearts content, that is one board that will probably have it till its basically shut down by microsoft or intel gives them the old lawsuit hammer. But even then its something most people are gonna do as serious overclockers on super lightweight version of operating systems