Help me, I'm a noob

[Beeeyeee]

10 hours ago, stconquest said:

... but it IS overclockable:  http://overclocking.guide/intel-skylake-non-k-overclocking-bios-list/

Overclocking is simple.  Super difficult?  What?  You punch in numbers and click on:  Save and Exit. 

did you not read my post? its a not k skew the only way to overclock it is by overclocking the BCLK and that affects your ram and chipset and its much more difficult than multiplier overclocking, trust me i've done it.

[Beeeyeee]

53 minutes ago, Migit said:

Enjoy though, and beware, its a bug, ever since I built the first I've been adding and changing, and planning the next big build.

so true though!:P

[stconquest]

2 minutes ago, Beeeyeee said:

did you not read my post? its a not k skew the only way to overclock it is by overclocking the BCLK and that affects your ram and chipset and its much more difficult than multiplier overclocking, trust me i've done it.

Did you not read mine?

If you think BCLK overclocking is difficult, you need to find a new hobby. 

[Beeeyeee]

2 minutes ago, stconquest said:

Did you not read mine?

If you think BCLK overclocking is difficult, you need to find a new hobby. 

okay you don't need to be a dick man. its not "difficult" persay.. it just affects so much more than the speed of your processor. and all kinds of hidden issues can arrise that can seriously screw up your PC, have you ever had memory issues? now imagine that coupled with your chipset and bios acting up and your computer is really hard to diagnose at that point. All i'm saying is this guy didn't know how to install windows, he wants something simple that will work well for 7 or 8 years, just keep it simple for him, most people who built their own systems don't overclock, i'm just trying to help him.

[stconquest]

6 minutes ago, Beeeyeee said:

okay you don't need to be a dick man. its not "difficult" persay.. it just affects so much more than the speed of your processor. and all kinds of hidden issues can arrise that can seriously screw up your PC, have you ever had memory issues? now imagine that coupled with your chipset and bios acting up and your computer is really hard to diagnose at that point. All i'm saying is this guy didn't know how to install windows, he wants something simple that will work well for 7 or 8 years, just keep it simple for him, most people who built their own systems don't overclock, i'm just trying to help him.

His budget allows the option.  For $50 (cost of the motherboard), the added support for overclocking is well worth it. 

He does not need to know how to do it right away, that CPU will be sufficient for years. 

My first build involved overclocking the FSB, I had no idea what I was doing when I started.  I had a 1 GHz OC on the CPU for many years.  I have helped friends OC their CPUs (over Mumble).  They had zero experience with doing it.

It is not an issue when the available currency is time, in an environment of information. 

[DutchTexan]

@Migit @stconquest @Beeeyeee @HKZeroFive @BrandedUpontheGrave This is what I'm looking at ordering. What should I swap around? Y'all said something about the processor?  I'm about to look into that newest parts list you made, Beeeyeee.

[stconquest]

6 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

@Migit @stconquest @Beeeyeee @HKZeroFive @BrandedUpontheGrave This is what I'm looking at ordering. What should I swap around? Y'all said something about the processor?  I'm about to look into that newest parts list you made, Beeeyeee.

Solid build.  You might want blue heat sinks on the RAM, to match.

[DutchTexan]

5 minutes ago, stconquest said:

Solid build.  You might want blue heat sinks on the RAM, to match.

Oh gotta do that, haha. What would be the benefit of the other, newest build in this forum? I notice the ram is different. What's the difference in motherboard about?

 

 

[stconquest]

3 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

Oh gotta do that, haha. What would be the benefit of the other, newest build in this forum? I notice the ram is different. What's the difference in motherboard about?

 

 

My build (i5 6500+ Z170 motherboard) has one advantage over the 4460 build:  The 6500 is 5%-8% faster (at 3.2 GHz each) than the 4460 and can be further overclocked later on when you need the speed.

DDR4 RAM is faster.  How much does that matter?  Depends on the application.

[DutchTexan]

Just now, stconquest said:

My build (i5 6500+ Z170 motherboard) has one advantage over the 4460 build:  The 6500 is 5%-8% faster than the 4460 and can be further overclocked later on when you need the speed.

DDR4 RAM is faster.  How much does that matter?  Depends on the application.

I like that chip better and If i could potentially have over 4GHz

 

3 minutes ago, stconquest said:

My build (i5 6500+ Z170 motherboard) has one advantage over the 4460 build:  The 6500 is 5%-8% faster than the 4460 and can be further overclocked later on when you need the speed.

DDR4 RAM is faster.  How much does that matter?  Depends on the application.

So the only differences are the type of ram, the board, and the chip, everything else can stay the same?

[stconquest]

2 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

I like that chip better and If i could potentially have over 4GHz

 

So the only differences are the type of ram, the board, and the chip, everything else can stay the same?

Yeah:  the PSU; the GPU; the case; the storage drives, all stay the same.

[DutchTexan]

17 hours ago, Beeeyeee said:

I would definitely go for the skylake (newest generation) 6xxx series intel processors. look at the parts list i got you

@Beeeyeee What do you mean?

 

 

@stconquest so the two fans in your build are mainly there for longer life?

 

 

[stconquest]

4 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

@Beeeyeee What do you mean?

@stconquest so the two fans in your build are mainly there for longer life?

Firstly, how did you tag me?  I have tried but it did not work.

Now to answer your question.

The two inexpensive, low RPM, fans are there to introduce fresh air into the case and to do it quietly. 

Because I pushed your budget, I went with a cheapo case BUT a cheapo case that works well.  It has mounts for fans, a good internal layout and is all black (inside and out).  It is missing a dust filter on the front intakes, but you can be crafty and make those.

 

[DutchTexan]

1 minute ago, stconquest said:

Firstly, how did you tag me?  I have tried but it did not work.

Now to answer your question.

The two inexpensive, low RPM, fans are there to introduce fresh air into the case and to do it quietly. 

Because I pushed your budget, I went with a cheapo case BUT a cheapo case that works well.  It has mounts for fans, a good internal layout and is all black (inside and out).

 

Ohhhh okay, I see. I typed @ and the copy + paste your name:1

[stconquest]

1 minute ago, DutchTexan said:

Ohhhh okay, I see. I typed @ and the copy + paste your name:1

Weird, let me try again:

@DutchTexan

Did it work?  Is your name orange?

[DutchTexan]

Okay so what are the differenced between my cart from newegg I posted and a ~$830 Dell desktop computer

 

[DutchTexan]

1 minute ago, stconquest said:

Weird, let me try again:

@DutchTexan

Did it work?  Is your name orange?

Nope, it didn't say you tagged me either. Maybe I'm not in their system yet or something hah idk

[stconquest]

1 minute ago, DutchTexan said:

Okay so what are the differenced between my cart from newegg I posted and a ~$830 Dell desktop computer

 

That PC does not have a GPU.  No... the GTX 730 is not a GPU

[stconquest]

1 minute ago, DutchTexan said:

Nope, it didn't say you tagged me either. Maybe I'm not in their system yet or something hah idk

Nah, I am doing something wrong.  I quit. 

[DutchTexan]

2 minutes ago, stconquest said:

That PC does not have a GPU.  No... the GTX 730 is not a GPU

So it's totally worth it to spend near 900 w/o rebates factored in over that computer

 

oh and another 35 or whatever for windows 10

[stconquest]

3 minutes ago, DutchTexan said:

So it's totally worth it to spend near 900 w/o rebates factored in over that computer

 

oh and another 35 or whatever for windows 10

@DutchTexan   <<<Got it!

If you want to enjoy video games, the GPU is normally the most expensive component.

 

[DutchTexan]

1 minute ago, stconquest said:

@DutchTexan   <<<Got it!

If you want to enjoy video games, the GPU is normally the most expensive component.

 

What did you do that time? 

 

Okay thanks, Im convinced now. I'm going to build a computer for the very first time.

[stconquest]

1 minute ago, DutchTexan said:

What did you do that time? 

 

Okay thanks, Im convinced now. I'm going to build a computer for the very first time.

I waited for the drop down menu and selected your name.

Well, then:  Best of luck!

If you have any questions, feel free to keep throwing them out on here. 

[DutchTexan]

How is this guys?

 

 

[stconquest]

Is this any cheaper?

 

$860:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($204.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($87.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($89.99 @ Newegg)  <<Can save $15-$20 by getting slower RAM
Storage: A-Data Premier SP550 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380X 4GB PCS+ Myst. Edition Video Card  ($233.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair SPEC-03 White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($61.50 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer  ($12.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $820.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-03 15:26 EST-0500