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On 21/01/2016 at 7:47 PM, Enderman said:

i dont really like how it works, the file system, installing stuff, registry, etc...

and how it looks

I thought OSX didn't have a registry...

 

On 21/01/2016 at 8:00 PM, shadowbyte said:

tomb raider mac edition runs about 20fps worse than its windows counterpart, despite running off the same system, a 2015 macbook. Just shows how much gaming performance osx has

To be fair, it's often the fault of devs that make a port really bad. UNIX-like kernels are way more efficient than NT kernel, so playing on Linux I could really see improvement on a computer with a very weak CPU.

 

On 22/01/2016 at 4:57 AM, v0id said:

In no way did I ask about how you felt about Apple just the os, yes there are issues with OSX but most of the performance issues would be resolved if it were an open platform that performed just as well as Windows. I'm not asking about how you feel about Macs, I think we all can agree that they suck, but if you had your current rig with OSX that worked just as well as Windows, would you like it. The only thing that would be different is the UI and pre installed software.

 

Since Apple produces OS X, they tend to be used interchangeably. But I'll take your point as stated. If OS X worked just as well as Windows, including gaming and customization and modding, and the only difference is the UI and pre-installed software, then it simply becomes a beauty pageant at this point. If it were indeed open sourced, then a mod could be made to make OS X look just like Windows, much like the third party Windows software that mimics OS X. So, in essence, there wouldn't be a lick of difference under the hood.

 

What do you hope to gain with our opinions OP? Because Apple and Microsoft offer vastly different approaches to their OS is the very reason there are fanboys on either side. Make OS X operate 'just as good' as Windows, and you've eliminated competition. Again, it'll come down to looks which can be modded either way in this scenario. Just my thoughts, take them for a grain of salt.

Yeah, because you can customise Windows sooo much... They are pretty similar in what you can do with them. Then compare this to customisability of Linux distros. Ohhh $h!t, there would be no difference under the hood? Yeah, because they are identical and only differ with apps and GUI...

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3 hours ago, Gachr said:

I thought OSX didn't have a registry...

i dont know if you can edit it like windows, you might have to  do everything from command line?
but yeah, changing system internal workings is not that easy

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7 hours ago, Gachr said:
7 hours ago, Gachr said:

Yeah, because you can customise Windows sooo much... They are pretty similar in what you can do with them. Then compare this to customisability of Linux distros. Ohhh $h!t, there would be no difference under the hood? Yeah, because they are identical and only differ with apps and GUI...

I would wager that yes, Windows can be customized in a much wider context than OS X. But to each his own. Your point about Linux, though correct, isn't valid in this context; OP's original statement was curious to see if people would like OS X more if it were open sourced. Linux doesn't come into the conversation at all. And yes, if you had two identical systems with differences only in OS, that is one running OP's hypothetical open-sourced OS X and the other running current gen Windows, it would come down to which one looks better and fits the individual user's taste. Hardware options wouldn't be limited as they are now and neither would software. It would essentially come down to looks and personal taste in the UI.

 

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11 minutes ago, v0id said:

I would wager that yes, Windows can be customized in a much wider context than OS X. But to each his own. Your point about Linux, though correct, isn't valid in this context; OP's original statement was curious to see if people would like OS X more if it were open sourced. Linux doesn't come into the conversation at all. And yes, if you had two identical systems with differences only in OS, that is one running OP's hypothetical open-sourced OS X and the other running current gen Windows, it would come down to which one looks better and fits the individual user's taste. Hardware options wouldn't be limited as they are now and neither would software. It would essentially come down to looks and personal taste in the UI.

 

Again, just an opinion. I don't wish to start some kind of text-war with no end.

My point was that you can't really say one is better than another, since both are terrible in terms of customisation.

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Assuming Linux didn't exist,  I'd go with whatever operating system is cheaper.  I have a feeling that would be Windows.

 

That being said, I'm very pleased that Linux exists.  I've found it to be better for my needs, and the fact that its free is icing on the cake.

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On 1/21/2016 at 1:39 PM, Caleb1998 said:

Here is the question "If OSX was an open platform would you prefer it over Windows?"

I do prefer it over Windows, and use it for most things except gaming and editing.  I much prefer UNIX to anything, and the fact that OS X has a UNIX underpinning is very appealing to me.  I have to have a CLI, I have to have shell scripting available to me, and I have to have CLI-based ssh available to me.  All of those things are native to OS X.  Further OS X has native, professional level applications available like MS Office, OmniGraffle, and Adobe's entire Creative Suite.  All without emulators or other kludges.  It is, in most cases, the best of both worlds IMHO.

 

Unfortunately, there's the raw truth that Windows has more options available for hardware.  My gaming rig is significantly more powerful than anything available from Apple (including the Mac Pro).  And Adobe's Creative Suite, while available for both platforms, runs way better on Windows than it does OS X.  As do triple-A games.  It's for that reason that I have a purpose-built gaming rig that doubles as my editing rig.  It runs Windows 10 with a lot of CYGWIN add-ons so that I can kinda, sorta, maybe have UNIX-based CLI tools handy.

 

But for surfing, email, IM'ing, and my real work: it's OS X all the way.  I absolutely despise Windows, but I acknowledge that the apps I use on it are more efficient there than they are on OS X.  And that sucks.

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On 1/21/2016 at 7:39 PM, Caleb1998 said:

I want to get everybody's opinions.

Here is the question "If OSX was an open platform would you prefer it over Windows?"

I personally love the way it looks and feels but I hate the lack of costumizeability and lack of game support. That is the same way I feel about the iPhone, I've tried both and it doesn't beat an costumizeability for me.

What do you mean by "lack of customization"? And as for games, well that's not the OS's problem.  The lack of games are the fault of the developers.

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My whole reason of making this thread it to see if people really like Windows because of the UI or just because of the support. Think of it in terms of cars, Windows can be thought of like a sleeper car that can out perform most sports cars, then there's OSX which is like a mustang which looks good but doesn't have the greatest performance out there. The only reason I like Windows is because it runs better for gaming, so I just wanted to get others thoughts on the matter

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I would use a Mac anyways.  I may get hate for it but I don't care i can get yelled at and I won't budge lol.

 

I love the intergration with other devices, the security of the software and the stability of the software + hardware.

 

Windows to me seems like a cluster of weirdness.  I used to use Windows, now use Fedora and my family uses Macs.  I think Windows is great when it's run CLEAN.  Not run full of crap and bogged to an absolute slowdown.  Unfortunately, most people run it that way.

And because of the latest Windows 10 dillema and all the privacy/security issues with it.  I have refused to use it.  It has many issues for me and I quit all of my work on Xamarin for Apps, and even quit my C# application developent.

 

I understand Windows is widely used.  I know powershell as a shell and use it on my desktop.  I also know bash.  I am getting my MCSE and don't think I hate Windows.  I don't hate Windows.

 

I just think it's bad as a system which is used for regular things and causes too many problems because programs screw it up.  Linux, OSX and BSD are all great, and I think they would be great as consumer operating systems.

 

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I don't see the poll option to cast my vote. I would use both, as I do now with Hackintosh and Windows. I prefer to use OS X in some cases such as managing contacts because the way Microsoft handles their information for contacts pisses me off. OS X has major networking advantages. OS X also have a lot more friendly GUI features which is the main reason why I love it. Windows works for me, but not all the time and I'll most likely be switching to Linux later. 

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On 1/21/2016 at 1:39 PM, Caleb1998 said:

I want to get everybody's opinions.

Here is the question "If OSX was an open platform would you prefer it over Windows?"

I personally love the way it looks and feels but I hate the lack of costumizeability and lack of game support. That is the same way I feel about the iPhone, I've tried both and it doesn't beat an costumizeability for me.

Osx is my main OS these days,  though I do use Windows for games. I don't like the way windows handles updates, files systems etc. It's also unnecessary bloated. Also I mainly edit videos with final cut pro.

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On 21/01/2016 at 1:47 PM, prolemur said:

I haven't used MacOSX really at all, other than random times at school or short amount of time on other's laptops. I wouldn't switch because it doesn't have enough game support and I'm already nice and cozy using Windows.

 

So I don't think if it was more open I'd have any more reason to use it, linux is already open source and customisable.

 

Edit* I did play games on a mac at school in like grade 2, math circus ftw and kids pix don't remember them all... sammy's science house?!

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I have tried both, in my opinion both are great in their own way. I use Windows primarily for gaming, I also use Windows because most software support Windows and sometimes you're stuck to use Windows. For OS X, I like its simplicity, most software provided are simple to use like iMovie, Garageband, and iTunes, for daily usage, I have no comment, because some people just like OS X, some prefer Windows, and some prefer Linux.

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I actually quite like Macs and their minimalist design. Same for the Mac OS, quite stable and straight forward. Yes, Windows is better for games, but I don't game too much.

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