Stablizing fx 9590 and ran with voltage

[Bajantechnician]

I normally keep Cool N quiet on and Use an offset voltage and just work my way up until stable (try 1.45V... 1.5 is a bit too high for air IMO) (offset voltage is default voltage (which u may not know) +- whatever you set it at.

 

What I usually say here is start the offset at 0 and *just play with it* Just be careful not to kill your cpu please haha

 

 

Some people don't run CnQ even with Overclocking but I don't like doing that... I dont like having my idle temps at 50C on my AMD chips haha

 

But you will likely need a positive offset being you said you werent stable at stock voltage (which indicated your CPU is broken btw... if you can make a warranty claim, do it. This will just prolong it's life a bit)

stock is 1.476 volts

[-rascal-]

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If you haven't looked any any AMD FX-8000 or FX-9000 series tutorials / videos / guides, please do that before you proceed any further.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard

http://rog.asus.com/216552013/crosshair-motherboards/guide-overclocking-fx-8350-to-4-8ghz-on-crosshair-v-formula-z/

 

 

Next, why the F@$K is your CPU-NB voltage so high?

You do realize CPU-NB is the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) in the CPU?

 

Just dumping more voltage won't make an overclock stable.

 

1. What are you Load-Line-Calibration settings? Post a Screenshot of those
2. What is the stock Core Voltage, and CPU-NB for your FX-9590?
3. What CPU cooler are you using? What are the idle temperatures while in BIOS? Post a Screenshot of those
4. Is your 16GB kit 4 X 4GB, or 2 X 8GB?
5. Properly adjust the timings for your Memory; not just set the frequency to 1866 MHz, and leave everything on Auto.

@Priller come back you us  :mellow:

 

To prove I am NOT intentionally ripping on you...

Spoiler

[Bajantechnician]

Before I start...

...Learn how to use an ASUS ROG board, and it's premium features. You can take Print Screens while in BIOS on the Crosshair V Formula-Z.

Spoiler

 

If you haven't looked any any AMD FX-8000 or FX-9000 series tutorials / videos / guides, please do that before you proceed any further.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard

http://rog.asus.com/216552013/crosshair-motherboards/guide-overclocking-fx-8350-to-4-8ghz-on-crosshair-v-formula-z/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk

 

 

Next, why the F@$K is your CPU-NB voltage so high?

You do realize CPU-NB is the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) in the CPU?

 

Just dumping more voltage won't make an overclock stable.

 

• What are you Load-Line-Calibration settings? Post a Screenshot of those
• What is the stock Core Voltage, and CPU-NB for your FX-9590?
• What CPU cooler are you using? What are the idle temperatures while in BIOS? Post a Screenshot of those
• Is your 16GB kit 4 X 4GB, or 2 X 8GB?
• Properly adjust the timings for your Memory; not just set the frequency to 1866 MHz, and leave everything on Auto.

@Priller come back you us  :mellow:

 

To prove I am NOT intentionally ripping on you...

Spoiler

load line?

Stock core volt is 1.47

Cooler is bequiet dark rock pro 3

2x8 gb kit

Timings?

[Bajantechnician]

Before I start...

...Learn how to use an ASUS ROG board, and it's premium features. You can take Print Screens while in BIOS on the Crosshair V Formula-Z.

Spoiler

 

If you haven't looked any any AMD FX-8000 or FX-9000 series tutorials / videos / guides, please do that before you proceed any further.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard

http://rog.asus.com/216552013/crosshair-motherboards/guide-overclocking-fx-8350-to-4-8ghz-on-crosshair-v-formula-z/

 

 

Next, why the F@$K is your CPU-NB voltage so high?

You do realize CPU-NB is the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) in the CPU?

 

Just dumping more voltage won't make an overclock stable.

 

1. What are you Load-Line-Calibration settings? Post a Screenshot of those
2. What is the stock Core Voltage, and CPU-NB for your FX-9590?
3. What CPU cooler are you using? What are the idle temperatures while in BIOS? Post a Screenshot of those
4. Is your 16GB kit 4 X 4GB, or 2 X 8GB?
5. Properly adjust the timings for your Memory; not just set the frequency to 1866 MHz, and leave everything on Auto.

@Priller come back you us  :mellow:

 

To prove I am NOT intentionally ripping on you...

Spoiler

nothing is overclocked. The cpu is no even stable at stock voltage and speeds

[Jumper118]

I'd say Sandy can handle 1.5V...

 

well i can't but people ran it at that. sandy is one of the worst for degrading

[Clyne]

well i can't but people ran it at that. sandy is one of the worst for degrading

Well...32nm!

[SkilledRebuilds]

Loved my SandyBritches

Sandy 2600K @ 1.45v for 4.95Ghz on the Hyper212 Push Pull

Couldn't crack 5Ghz though with my cooling without breaking 85-90*c most of the time under load

[harrynowl]

Just RMA that CPU. You need the two IDs (serial and product code) that are on the IHS. You don't need box etc, just ideally the plastic AMD container.

 

You don't need a proof of purchase UNLESS your CPU was manufactured outside of warranted date (3 years) BUT you bought it within the current warranted period. E.g. CPU manufacturered 5/1/13 = out of warranty but if it was bought 10/1/13 = in warranty (if you can prove it). 

[Benji_w]

If you can downvolt with the CPU being stable then do it, i had 1.28V stable at 4GHZ...

 

The 9590 doesn't like being undervolted or underclocked.

 

nothing is overclocked. The cpu is no even stable at stock voltage and speeds

 

You still have AI Tuner set to auto, TAKE THINGS OFF AUTO.

[Bajantechnician]

Just RMA that CPU. You need the two IDs (serial and product code) that are on the IHS. You don't need box etc, just ideally the plastic AMD container.

 

You don't need a proof of purchase UNLESS your CPU was manufactured outside of warranted date (3 years) BUT you bought it within the current warranted period. E.g. CPU manufacturered 5/1/13 = out of warranty but if it was bought 10/1/13 = in warranty (if you can prove it). 

no plastic container.

 

only the box

i do have the amazon account i used to buy it.

There should be an invoice or such

 

The 9590 doesn't like being undervolted or underclocked.

 

 

You still have AI Tuner set to auto, TAKE THINGS OFF AUTO.

like what?

[harrynowl]

no plastic container.

 

only the box

i do have the amazon account i used to buy it.

There should be an invoice or such

 

like what?

Yea you can print the invoice, take a look at amds rma form

 

http://support.amd.com/en-us/warranty/rma

 

if it's not working at defaults I'd just return the thing to be honest.

 

if it's less than a year old you could send it back to amazon for a refund and get a more sensible 8370 or something

[Bajantechnician]

Yea you can print the invoice, take a look at amds rma form

 

http://support.amd.com/en-us/warranty/rma

 

if it's not working at defaults I'd just return the thing to be honest.

 

if it's less than a year old you could send it back to amazon for a refund and get a more sensible 8370 or something

no box.

 

amazon wont accept it.

[Benji_w]

no plastic container.

 

only the box

i do have the amazon account i used to buy it.

There should be an invoice or such

 

like what?

 

Everything lol AI tuner on auto is changing all your clock speeds and everything. set it to manual...

 

Before I start...

...Learn how to use an ASUS ROG board, and it's premium features. You can take Print Screens while in BIOS on the Crosshair V Formula-Z.

Spoiler

 

If you haven't looked any any AMD FX-8000 or FX-9000 series tutorials / videos / guides, please do that before you proceed any further.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1348623/amd-bulldozer-and-piledriver-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboard

http://rog.asus.com/216552013/crosshair-motherboards/guide-overclocking-fx-8350-to-4-8ghz-on-crosshair-v-formula-z/

 

 

Next, why the F@$K is your CPU-NB voltage so high?

You do realize CPU-NB is the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) in the CPU?

 

Just dumping more voltage won't make an overclock stable.

 

1. What are you Load-Line-Calibration settings? Post a Screenshot of those
2. What is the stock Core Voltage, and CPU-NB for your FX-9590?
3. What CPU cooler are you using? What are the idle temperatures while in BIOS? Post a Screenshot of those
4. Is your 16GB kit 4 X 4GB, or 2 X 8GB?
5. Properly adjust the timings for your Memory; not just set the frequency to 1866 MHz, and leave everything on Auto.

@Priller come back you us  :mellow:

 

To prove I am NOT intentionally ripping on you...

Spoiler

 

Have you done stress testing with that at such a low voltage because I had mine that low once... it wasn't stable, at all.

 

[Clyne]

Everything lol AI tuner on auto is changing all your clock speeds and everything. set it to manual...

 

 

Have you done stress testing with that at such a low voltage because I had mine that low once... it wasn't stable, at all.

 

Probably a older FX-8350 that was binned higher....

Newer FX-8xxx chips are lowered binned because of the 9xxx.

[Benji_w]

Probably a older FX-8350 that was binned higher....

Newer FX-8xxx chips are lowered binned because of the 9xxx.

 

Urm no, seriously doubt that, you're looking at 1.54v territory for 5ghz even with a good binned chip.

[Clyne]

Urm no, seriously doubt that, you're looking at 1.54v territory for 5ghz even with a good binned chip.

I think it's 1.5V at least...i doubt 1.54V is needed...

[Benji_w]

I think it's 1.5V at least...i doubt 1.54V is needed...

Then you'd be wrong. well I can run mine at 5ghz at 1.4v+ but it won't be stable and it will be writing corrupt data to my drives.

[vitor_cut]

i have the same system, and i was getting the same problem in the beginning.

 

you need to go to the advance settings/ cpu config in you Bios and desable all power saving features (cool and quiet,c6 state and etc), then go to load line calibration and set it to extreme, cpu power to 110%, and disable apm, and that works solid for me.

[Bajantechnician]

Then you'd be wrong. well I can run mine at 5ghz at 1.4v+ but it won't be stable and it will be writing corrupt data to my drives.

4.7 at 1.45 v

[Bajantechnician]

i have the same system, and i was getting the same problem in the beginning.

 

you need to go to the advance settings/ cpu config in you Bios and desable all power saving features (cool and quiet,c6 state and etc), then go to load line calibration and set it to extreme, cpu power to 110%, and disable apm, and that works solid for me.

thats it?

 

jesus.

 

all this

 

thanks man

[Benji_w]

i have the same system, and i was getting the same problem in the beginning.

 

you need to go to the advance settings/ cpu config in you Bios and desable all power saving features (cool and quiet,c6 state and etc), then go to load line calibration and set it to extreme, cpu power to 110%, and disable apm, and that works solid for me.

 

You can turn all your power saving on if you set your LLC to high and power to 140% btw. I know because I have all that set up.

 

thats it?

 

jesus.

 

all this

 

thanks man

 

Please note, with those settings your thermals will sky rocket, using extreme LLC will reverse VDROOP and send your voltage higher than you have it set in the bios for example. 1.48v idle will turn into 1.52v under load.

[vitor_cut]

You can turn all your power saving on if you set your LLC to high and power to 140% btw. I know because I have all that set up.

 

 

Please note, with those settings your thermals will sky rocket, using extreme LLC will reverse VDROOP and send your voltage higher than you have it set in the bios for example. 1.48v idle will turn into 1.52v under load.

 yap.

but i tink its more stable with the LLC set to extreme, and the voltage wont go that high with the cpu power set to 110% so you will have better thermal performance

[Benji_w]

 yap.

but i tink its more stable with the LLC set to extreme, and the voltage wont go that high with the cpu power set to 110% so you will have better thermal performance

 

It will still send thermals up, trust me, I know. Unless you're keeping the clock speed pinned for a reason (benching or what have you) then keeping the thermals up is pointless. My idle temp on my 5ghz OC is 26c for example (taken from the socket).

[Bajantechnician]

yap.

but i tink its more stable with the LLC set to extreme, and the voltage wont go that high with the cpu power set to 110% so you will have better thermal performance

pc crashes at extreme , is ok on the setting just before it  

It will still send thermals up, trust me, I know. Unless you're keeping the clock speed pinned for a reason (benching or what have you) then keeping the thermals up is pointless. My idle temp on my 5ghz OC is 26c for example (taken from the socket).

so I need more fans?

[-rascal-]

@Benji_w

My FX-8350 @ 5.0 GHz is stable, but my Load-Line-Calibration kicks the Core Voltage up to ~1.47V.

Temperature wise, when all cores are on full load (i.e. Prime95), the temperature gets quite high...high 60*C's nearing 70*C.

I had a Swiftech H220...but both (original and replacement unit) each failed within 24 hours of actual operation.

 

@Bajantechnician

Load-Line-Calibration counter-acts voltage drooping when the CPU is under load / stress.

For an example, you sent your Core Voltage to 1.5V. During idle and low loads it may be at 1.5V, but once the CPU is under heavy load, the voltage droops down to say...1.48V, making your overclock / CPU unstable.

 

Adjust the Load-Line-Calibration enough so the voltage is stable.

If you use a too high LLC, then you voltage is be higher than necessary.

 

 

As mentioned before, for the sake of troubleshooting

• Disable Cool N' Quiet
• Disable C1E
• Disable Core C6 State
• Enable HPC Mode (High Performance Computing)
• Disable APM Master Mode (Application Power Management)

You are running your DRAM at 1866 MHz, and with a CPU-NB of 2200 MHz. Drop your CPU-NB down to 1.25V ~ 1.3V. Even 1.3V is not necessary -- 1.4V is just ridiculous...

If I recall, I am able to run 2400 MHz CPU-NB with 1.23V (?). Will have to check.

 

Increasing your CPU-VDDA voltage can help stabilize overclocks. DO NOT increase this voltage too high; only a very small amount is needed.

The stock CPU-VDDA voltage should be 2.5V; try increasing it to 2.5V ~ 2.55V. DO NOT EXCEED 2.6V.

 

Tweaking the NB or SB voltage can also help, but those are the finer bits of tuning. I'd recommend that you deal with these voltages in the end.