Broadwell-e

[Predrag]

When is this chipset speculated to come out? And when it does (prices will be lower on x99) is it a good deal to get a 5820k? (currently rocking 6700k)

[pwn_intended]

When is this chipset speculated to come out? And when it does (prices will be lower on x99) is it a good deal to get a 5820k? (currently rocking 6700k)

Dunno about any timeframes, but the 6700K is pretty beastly, and will likely beat a 5820k by a few % in games, likely not noticeable though. What do you do on your computer that would make you want to upgrade?

[mikat]

When is this chipset speculated to come out? And when it does (prices will be lower on x99) is it a good deal to get a 5820k? (currently rocking 6700k)

broadwell-e will be on X99, just saying

[FloRolf]

Why have you bought an 6700k and now want an 5820k? They are priced pretty equally...

[Atmos]

Broadwell-e?

 

Probably never. Broadwell was a hold over until skylake, (and never really was in the desktop environment), which is currently out now. So expect some sort of Skylake x99 platform to come out eventually.

 

And it's unlikely you'll see significant price drops on current x99 platform gear, intel prefers to keep the prices the same even 2 years or so after launch. Just look up the going price for a 4770k right now.

 

Why the actual fuck is intel releasing broadwell-e... Skylake, an all around superior architecture is out, why go back to a less powerful architecture and give that the x99 platform. Intel what the fuck are you doing?????? It's almost as if they even realize there's no real difference anymore, and they just don't care at all.

Uhhhggg... Well, the second part of my post stands true still.

[Predrag]

 

Dunno about any timeframes, but the 6700K is pretty beastly, and will likely beat a 5820k by a few % in games, likely not noticeable though. What do you do on your computer that would make you want to upgrade?

I play some games, but you know I am an architect so I do need to render some stuff. It doesnt matter to me if I lose 1 fps, I am not a pro gamer after all.

 

 

Why have you bought an 6700k and now want an 5820k? They are priced pretty equally...

No they are not. X99 platforms are currently a 100 euros higher where I live.

 

 

Broadwell-e?

 

Probably never. Broadwell was a hold over until skylake, (and never really was in the desktop environment), which is currently out now. So expect some sort of Skylake x99 platform to come out eventually.
And it's unlikely you'll see significant price drops on current x99 platform gear, intel prefers to keep the prices the same even 2 years or so after launch. Just look up the going price for a 4770k right now.

I still do not get that, I mean the 4790k is there and they cost basically the same.

[pwn_intended]

I play some games, but you know I am an architect so I do need to render some stuff. It doesnt matter to me if I lose 1 fps, I am not a pro gamer after all.

The performance increase would hardly offset the high cost of changing your platform IMHO, but who am I to tell you how to fulfil your desire for better tech.

 

If I were you, I would wait out and see what intel (or AMD) come out with next as a 6700k is pretty dam sweet.

[FatalityDiablo]

Broadwell-E will be out on shelfs somehwere inbetween March and June 2016 on the 2011-v3 platform on the x99 chip. I would not recommend buying the 5820k right now since you already have the 6700k and the performance is not that much worse. maybe like 15% behind after oc

[Tagiau]

No they are not. X99 platforms are currently a 100 euros higher where I live.

X99 is currently 200$ cheaper where I live.

[Predrag]

 

The performance increase would hardly offset the high cost of changing your platform IMHO, but who am I to tell you how to fulfil your desire for better tech.

 

If I were you, I would wait out and see what intel (or AMD) come out with next as a 6700k is pretty dam sweet.

Thx. AMD might have something up their sleeve as well.

 

 

X99 is currently 200$ cheaper where I live.

The world is a beatiful place.

[Predrag]

Broadwell-E will be out on shelfs somehwere inbetween March and June 2016 on the 2011-v3 platform on the x99 chip. I would not recommend buying the 5820k right now since you already have the 6700k and the performance is not that much worse. maybe like 15% behind after oc

I always hated the look of the 6700k (1st world problems) even if i dont see it. Just.. so small and puny compared to the other chipsets.

[Sakkura]

Why the actual fuck is intel releasing broadwell-e... Skylake, an all around superior architecture is out, why go back to a less powerful architecture and give that the x99 platform. Intel what the fuck are you doing?????? It's almost as if they even realize there's no real difference anymore, and they just don't care at all.

Uhhhggg... Well, the second part of my post stands true still.

 

Skylake-E is coming later. The enthusiast platform is always behind the mainstream platform. It's either get Broadwell-E to tide us over until Skylake-E, or remain stuck on Haswell-E for ages.

[NumLock21]

Broadwell-e will still use the x99 chipset. There will be 4 skus, with the highest at 10 cores.

[FatalityDiablo]

I always hated the look of the 6700k (1st world problems) even if i dont see it. Just.. so small and puny compared to the other chipsets.

well it is simply not worth it over 4790k, which also is the faster cpu the upcomming broadwell-e will destroy anything and the 8core (6900k) will replace the 5960k at ~650usd,which is insane considering the 8core 5960x is the hedt at 1200euro where i live atm.

 

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http://wccftech.com/intel-broadwell-e-hedt-computex-2016/ pretty sure it is legit info

[Atmos]

Skylake-E is coming later. The enthusiast platform is always behind the mainstream platform. It's either get Broadwell-E to tide us over until Skylake-E, or remain stuck on Haswell-E for ages.

 

It still makes no sense at all.

Broadwell had virtually 0 impact on the desktop environment, and that's putting it lightly. Literally no one cared in the desktop world when broadwell released, so why would it now suddenly get an "Enthusiast" platform?!

It has no tangible performance difference from haswell, its only marginally better statistic is a lowered tdp, but even that does not necessarily mean better overclocks of any nature. I seriously doubt you'll see any increase to performance what so ever, save adding more cores to it.

[Sakkura]

It still makes no sense at all.

Broadwell had virtually 0 impact on the desktop environment, and that's putting it lightly. Literally no one cared in the desktop world when broadwell released, so why would it now suddenly get an "Enthusiast" platform?!

It has no tangible performance difference from haswell, its only marginally better statistic is a lowered tdp, but even that does not necessarily mean better overclocks of any nature. I seriously doubt you'll see any increase to performance what so ever, save adding more cores to it.

 

Broadwell-E will offer 2 more cores than Haswell-E, which is a pretty significant difference. Bigger than what Ivy Bridge-E offered over Sandy Bridge-E.

 

Broadwell on the mainstream platform mostly used the extra die space for a larger iGPU, which anyone using a graphics card doesn't care about. Broadwell-E has no iGPU and instead the space can be used for more cores.

[NumLock21]

It still makes no sense at all.

Broadwell had virtually 0 impact on the desktop environment, and that's putting it lightly. Literally no one cared in the desktop world when broadwell released, so why would it now suddenly get an "Enthusiast" platform?!

It has no tangible performance difference from haswell, its only marginally better statistic is a lowered tdp, but even that does not necessarily mean better overclocks of any nature. I seriously doubt you'll see any increase to performance what so ever, save adding more cores to it.

Broadwell-e has nothing to do with broadwell.

[runit3]

It still makes no sense at all.

Broadwell had virtually 0 impact on the desktop environment, and that's putting it lightly. Literally no one cared in the desktop world when broadwell released, so why would it now suddenly get an "Enthusiast" platform?!

It has no tangible performance difference from haswell, its only marginally better statistic is a lowered tdp, but even that does not necessarily mean better overclocks of any nature. I seriously doubt you'll see any increase to performance what so ever, save adding more cores to it.

It's not "sudden". Intel horribly bumblefucked the launch of Broadwell desktop. Mobile got pushed back which subsequently pushed desktop back, manufacturing on the die shrink of 14nm is not some magically easy task http://www.extremetech.com/computing/168799-intel-delays-broadwell-2014

 

The problem with the delay was that Skylake remained on-track and proved to be a hugely successful launch (just look at i5/i7 scarcity). I would assume that Intel picked up some knowledge with the Broadwell troubles and got their collective shit together for Skylake. If Broadwell-E remains on track it follows the rough timeline of every other "-E" release.

 

There is a tangible performance difference from Haswell, decreased TDP and a minuscule ~%5 IPC increase http://wccftech.com/intel-14nm-broadwell-cpu-architecture-analyzed-5-ipc-increase-haswell-2nd-generation-fivr-20-compute-units/ which follows Intel's pattern of improvement over the last 4 generations of chips. Intel is rapidly approaching the physical limits of Silicon as a substrate for dies. A shrink to 10nm with Cannon Lake is going to be incredibly difficult and probably won't net a huge gain over Kaby Lake (Skylake refresh 14nm) when they get around to launching it.

 

The main point of the -E lines has, and always will be, the advantage of core count. Haswell-E didn't have a lot of value tied to it besides the 5820k, which given the current cost of Skylake chips, is a very nice option for those that need 6c/12t for highly optimized workloads. If Broadwell-E launches and I can pick up a 8c/16t CPU for $400 less than I paid for my 5960X I'll probably hop on that deal unless OCing is terrible. If AMD can get around to launching Zen between Broadwell-E and Skylake-E there might actually be some decent competition again in the enthusiast class of chips, but there is a BIG if in that.

[NumLock21]

Broadwell-E

[Coaxialgamer]

When is this chipset speculated to come out? And when it does (prices will be lower on x99) is it a good deal to get a 5820k? (currently rocking 6700k)

Broadwell e will come out in q2 2016 on x99