Skylake non-K might get bclk overclocking via bios update

[Lays]

Not a great deal without making your GPU and other bus speeds becoming unstable. As far as I am aware the biggest selling point of a K processor is the multiplier unlocking and overclocking you can achieve with it.

 

That's not how Z170 works.

 

It has an external BCLK generator that changes the BCLK separately from those other things, the unlocked K series can do 400+ BCLK on Ln2.

 

The BCLK on Z170 doesn't fuck with sata/pci-e etc.  It only messes with memory controller/cache/cpu.

[Rune]

Slightly off topic but, would it not be best to lower the cpu bclk as low as it will go to gain finer control over overclocking? Like...4.6ghz could be stable and 4.7ghz not, but if you lowered the bclk to 50mhz instead of 100 you could nail 4.65ghz and still be okay?

 

Edit: AH.

[Lays]

Slightly off topic but, would it not be best to lower the cpu bclk as low as it will go to gain finer control over overclocking? Like...4.6ghz could be stable and 4.7ghz not, but if you lowered the bclk to 50mhz instead of 100 you could nail 4.65ghz and still be okay?

 

Edit: AH.

 

You can just go up in BCLK as well.  In my experience it is easier to go up than down, because it will give you more cache & ram speed too!

 

IE: with a K series CPU, if 46 is stable, 47 isn't, you can do 101 BCLK @ 46 multiplier= 4646 mhz.

[s3ns3]

Slightly off topic but, would it not be best to lower the cpu bclk as low as it will go to gain finer control over overclocking? Like...4.6ghz could be stable and 4.7ghz not, but if you lowered the bclk to 50mhz instead of 100 you could nail 4.65ghz and still be okay?

 

Edit: AH.

i dont think so.with bclk you want a higher base clock with a lower multiplier. at least thats how it was pre-sandy bridge.on skylake idk

 

 

You can just go up in BCLK as well.  In my experience it is easier to go up than down, because it will give you more cache & ram speed too!

yeah but most lowered the ram multiplier and cpu multiplier just to go up on the base clock.

Edited December 11, 2015 by s3ns3

[Memories4K]

why not? oc'ing i3's would be fine.if its not stable,lower it a bit.if intel would allow it. 

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I personally would just not want to take that chance.

I mean if we were to cut out the features of higher end boards that are not present on boards like H81, it would still be too risky on an H81 board for me.

[Memories4K]

You can just go up in BCLK as well.  In my experience it is easier to go up than down, because it will give you more cache & ram speed too!

 

IE: with a K series CPU, if 46 is stable, 47 isn't, you can do 101 BCLK @ 46 multiplier= 4646 mhz.

Dat 46Mhz of extra performance tho

 

hahahaha

[s3ns3]

I personally would just not want to take that chance.

I mean if we were to cut out the features of higher end boards that are not present on boards like H81, it would still be too risky on an H81 board for me.

there isnt any risk.seriously.mostly its the vrm you want to look for but with an i3 if you keep it under 1.35v i dont think it would use more power than a locked i7.which works just fine on any board. howerver no risk with an i3 whatsoever

 

the 'features' of a z chipset over h ones are raid and unlocked multiplier. thats it. and ofc a stronger vrm. but like i said with an i3..no risks. ok maybe a bluescreen.then lower the voltage a bit

[Lynx]

this is definitely a great news, here is another review on this BLCK  OC http://www.jagatoc.com/2015/12/hands-on-review-overclocking-bclk-core-i3-6100-on-supermicro-c7h170-m/ it's in Indonesian, but the graphs is in english

 

they use the cheapest i3, i3 6100 3.7 GHz and took it to 4255.56 MHz, that is impressive

and what is more impressive is that they use a SuperMicro C7H170-M. yep H170

some benchmark

 

 

 

nice improvement there on Watch Dogs.

 

they had problem in getting it past 115 MHz BLCK, it's just not stable, they tried with 120 MHz but it didn't stable

 

oh yeah, regarding the risk of OC on non-Z board, just take it easy

[s3ns3]

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see?

 

oh yeah, regarding the risk of OC on non-Z board, just take it easy

[cesrai]

But is it independent of PCI and SATA clocks?

Welcome back, been a long time since I've seen you.

And yes it is.

[Aereldor]

Asrock seems set to release a BIOS update on all of their Z170 motherboards that will enable overclocking on non-k Intel Skylake CPUs.

eedless to say, if this is legitimate, it's huge, and marks a return to pre Sandy-Bridge chips where base clock overclocking allowed you to overclock any of Intel's CPUs.

https://youtu.be/dlPLkfE8Ubk?t=57s

Your thoughts?

[Master Disaster]

Repost...

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/503343-skylake-non-k-might-get-bclk-overclocking-via-bios-update

[Sam Z Man]

They mentioned this in the wan show yesterday, its totally legit.

 

And its more then just asrock, and Z170 chipsets.

[JebKerman]

Repost...

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/503343-skylake-non-k-might-get-bclk-overclocking-via-bios-update

good video though

[Sam Z Man]

I wouldn't OC on an H81 anyway hahaha

 

There was one guy on here a long time ago, first time pc builder/overclocker who pushed a 4790K to something crazy on a 50$ H81 board, It was like 5.1ghz with 1.21 volts with only hitting around 75 degrees with a stock cooler.

 

He made a post saying like "is this okay for overclocking", our jaws hit the fucking floors.

[Albatross]

I don't understand...what is bclk? How can you overclock non-k CPUs?

[Lynx]

I don't understand...what is bclk? How can you overclock non-k CPUs?

this guy in red circle

 

BLCK x Multiplier = JigaHertz

 

 

Asrock seems set to release a BIOS update on all of their Z170 motherboards that will enable overclocking on non-k Intel Skylake CPUs.

eedless to say, if this is legitimate, it's huge, and marks a return to pre Sandy-Bridge chips where base clock overclocking allowed you to overclock any of Intel's CPUs.

https://youtu.be/dlPLkfE8Ubk?t=57s

Your thoughts?

only on Z series?, that's stupid

well, at least SuperMicro already got it in their H series.

[Albatross]

this guy in red circle

i3_6100_DEF-379x375.jpg

 

BLCK x Multiplier = JigaHertz

 

Is that even going to give a worthy difference when OC'd?

[s3ns3]

Is that even going to give a worthy difference when OC'd?

this base clock OC vs multiplier ?or just performance gain? anyway its the same. if the cpu runs at 4.5ghz regarding of what type of OC you did than thats a 4.5 OC.the best results come with blck+multiplier. usualy lower multiplier and higher base clock

[Memories4K]

There was one guy on here a long time ago, first time pc builder/overclocker who pushed a 4790K to something crazy on a 50$ H81 board, It was like 5.1ghz with 1.21 volts with only hitting around 75 degrees with a stock cooler.

 

He made a post saying like "is this okay for overclocking", our jaws hit the fucking floors.

I refuse to believe that person got a 4790k @5Ghz with only 1.2 volts hahaha that is insane hahahaha

 

No but i thought the danger of cheaper boards with less/less-quality power phases was to the VRMs if you were to add too much voltage?

[Sam Z Man]

I refuse to believe that person got a 4790k @5Ghz with only 1.2 volts hahaha that is insane hahahaha

 

No but i thought the danger of cheaper boards with less/less-quality power phases was to the VRMs if you were to add too much voltage?

 

I didn't want to believe it either then he posted CPU-z screenshots and stress tests.