CPU's Without Integrated Graphics ?

[Ebojager]

Hello, just joined cause I love the Linus Tech Tips, Scrapyard Wars and The Wan Show videos

 

Anyway, my question is, since I see so many issues with integrated graphics and dedicated graphics in the same system, are there Intel or AMD CPU's without integrated graphics? Are the integrated graphics on the processor or the motherboard?

Is it better to not have a CPU with integrated graphics?

 

Thank you.

[Glenwing]

Hello, just joined cause I love the Linus Tech Tips, Scrapyard Wars and The Wan Show videos

 

Anyway, my question is, since I see so many issues with integrated graphics and dedicated graphics in the same system, are there Intel or AMD CPU's without integrated graphics? Are the integrated graphics on the processor or the motherboard?

Is it better to not have a CPU with integrated graphics?

 

Thank you.

 

Intel's socket LGA 2011 CPUs have no integrated graphics, and instead have extra CPU cores. The AM3+ platform on AMD is the same idea but much older, so the performance isn't really any better than Intel's mainline chips.

[slightlyjaded]

Hello, just joined cause I love the Linus Tech Tips, Scrapyard Wars and The Wan Show videos

 

Anyway, my question is, since I see so many issues with integrated graphics and dedicated graphics in the same system, are there Intel or AMD CPU's without integrated graphics? Are the integrated graphics on the processor or the motherboard?

Is it better to not have a CPU with integrated graphics?

 

Thank you.

It doesn't really matter.

 

Most forum members will recommend that you install a discrete graphics card anyway, at which point your integrated graphics should be disabled automatically

 

There are certain specialised cases like AMD's Kaveri chips that actually had a parallel graphics card that they could interface with in crossfire.....IMO it isn't worth bothering with.

[Senzelian]

I have never heard about issues with integrated graphics.
The integrated graphics chip is always on the CPU.

Technically it would be better to not have any integrated graphics if you use a dedicated graphics card, cause that way the actual CPU has more space to work with.
But since there aren't any modern consumer grade CPUs without integrated graphics it doesn't really matter (apart from the X99 platform).
Xeons obviously also don't have integrated graphics.

A good example for this would be a comparison between the Haswell 4th generation i7-4790k and the Broadwell 5th generation i7-5775C, where the 5775C is clocked much lower than the 4790k, because it has a much larger integrated graphics chip, which resulst in better CPU performance of the older 4790k.

[Imakuni]

since I see so many issues with integrated graphics and dedicated graphics in the same system

Oh do you? Can't really say I agree with that statement, but....

 

 

At any rate, yes, there are such processors. But that really doesn't matter, as the iGPU is disabled by default when using a discrete graphics cards.

[ShadowCaptain]

since I see so many issues with integrated graphics and dedicated graphics in the same system, 

 

Welcome to the forum

 

Hmm personally never heard of people having these issues, if so they are rare, having a CPU with integrated GPU and a dedicated card should (and rarely does) cause any issues

 

The iGPU is disabled when you use a dedicated card, some people use the iGPU for game recording in OBS

 

 but yeah, I dont believe its a known issue

[C0LL0SS0S]

If you really having issues with your normally disabled iGPU just get a XEON

[Alurit]

Welcome to the forum

 

Hmm personally never heard of people having these issues, if so they are rare, having a CPU with integrated GPU and a dedicated card should (and rarely does) cause any issues

 

The iGPU is disabled when you use a dedicated card, some people use the iGPU for game recording in OBS

 

 but yeah, I dont believe its a known issue

maybe he has issues with laptops that have both? I've had issues with it cause both are active and had things like some games trying to launch on integrated instead of dedicated graphics. back when I played mincraft it was an issue with mod launchers that launched on the integrated graphics, and had to manually set it to use the dedicated in the nvidia control panel

but it's obviously not an issue on desktop where the 2 gpu don't share one eDP connector and cannot switch dynamically

[ShadowCaptain]

maybe he has issues with laptops that have both? I've had issues with it cause both are active and had things like some games trying to launch on integrated instead of dedicated graphics. back when I played mincraft it was an issue with mod launchers that launched on the integrated graphics, and had to manually set it to use the dedicated in the nvidia control panel

but it's obviously not an issue on desktop where the 2 gpu don't share one eDP connector and cannot switch dynamically

 

maybe but not had that issue on any gaming laptop myself and ive owned about 7

[Alurit]

maybe but not had that issue on any gaming laptop myself and ive owned about 7

maybe I was the unfortunate one

[ShadowCaptain]

maybe I was the unfortunate one

 

yeah it CAN be an issue buts its not that common in my experience (and working in a pc store for 7 years)

[Ebojager]

Oh do you? Can't really say I agree with that statement, but....

 

 

At any rate, yes, there are such processors. But that really doesn't matter, as the iGPU is disabled by default when using a discrete graphics cards.

Well I don't personally, yet, but Its probably more in line with what Alurit said. I just read allot of reddit and pretty consistently see people with issues where the program isn't recognizing the dedicated card. Maybe they are Laptops, not sure.

[Ebojager]

Welcome to the forum

 

Hmm personally never heard of people having these issues, if so they are rare, having a CPU with integrated GPU and a dedicated card should (and rarely does) cause any issues

 

The iGPU is disabled when you use a dedicated card, some people use the iGPU for game recording in OBS

 

 but yeah, I dont believe its a known issue

Thank you. Well it must not be as big a deal, then, as I had thought. I was planning on building a system to play Star Citizen so was starting to look into stuff.

[Ebojager]

I have never heard about issues with integrated graphics.

The integrated graphics chip is always on the CPU.

Technically it would be better to not have any integrated graphics if you use a dedicated graphics card, cause that way the actual CPU has more space to work with.

But since there aren't any modern consumer grade CPUs without integrated graphics it doesn't really matter (apart from the X99 platform).

Xeons obviously also don't have integrated graphics.

 

Are Xeons' good gaming CPUs?

[incarnate]

Are Xeons' good gaming CPUs?

Yes. The e3 1231 v3 is essentially a locked i7 with no gpu. The high core count, low clock speed ones aren't as good tho

[ShadowCaptain]

Thank you. Well it must not be as big a deal, then, as I had thought. I was planning on building a system to play Star Citizen so was starting to look into stuff.

 

Yeah honestly dont event think about it - if anything its useful to have in certain circumstances