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CPU Voltage

BuckGup
By BuckGup
in CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory
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I have heard numerous times don't go above 1.3v. Is that something of the past as I have seen many people way above that from 1.36v all the way to the crazy 1.4v. Is it more of a thermal problem rather then burn out your CPU and MOBO? If this is the case how far can I push a i5 4670k on a GTX100i? It is at 1.28v 4.3ghz and idles at 18C and max temps are about 63C. I was think 1.33v but would I burn it out? 

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I do 1.32 v for 4.89GHz overclock on 5820K

 

But like its legit a toaster oven in there

 

I agree 1.3>

When I go 1.3v exactly temps seem more reasonable and the second I do 1.31 its like 10*C more heat for some reason

On 1.3v I get 4.53Ghz so not a big problem

 

1.4 is straight up crazy.ppl who do that are on liquid nitrogen

 

4670K does not have a good thermal interface buy whatever.Add 1.31 and see what you get.then if it's good add to 1.33v but don't go beyond 1.35v

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Well I will be back hopefully without a house fire or dead CPU or a BSOD!

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Back with the Sandy Bridge CPUs Intel gave us a bit of guidance in regards to voltage, they told us not to go above 1.35V because it risked instant pops of the CPU. Indeed in the overclockers forums we saw people who run 2600k's at 1.4V and had a failure within hours. I haven't seen Intel publish any further guidance on the issue, but the transistors have got smaller, the default voltage has dropped a little and as a result we would anticipate that modern processors have a lower voltage ceiling. What that ceiling is is very hard to ascertain without some guidance from Intel but its highly unlikely to be 1.4V and beyond like some people run their CPUs at. All depends on your intentions really.

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Imo it depends on the cpu line, and that particular CPU's base voltage when compared to the OCed voltage, in reality the real factor isn't voltage that matters it's the heat that matters

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Its not recommended to exceed 1.35v for 24/7 or daily usage, even if you have sufficient cooling

Increasing voltage beyond that has a huge impact on the CPU's lifespan, even if it is kept cool by LN or phase change cooling

People who go to 1.4v+ usually only do it temporarily to run benchmarks, try to beat personal records, or whatever, but not to use the PC every day like that

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I have heard numerous times don't go above 1.3v.

yeah, just don't...cause it's not worth it...if your CPU is not reaching it's max clockspeed at 1.3V then it never will, you have a dud so deal with it!

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After reading these is it ok to do 1.3v 24/7?

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yeah, just don't...cause it's not worth it...if your CPU is not reaching it's max clockspeed at 1.3V then it never will, you have a dud so deal with it!

Well I bumped up to 1.3v and got 4.6ghz so I am happy with that as long as it isn't bad for it

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Its not recommended to exceed 1.35v for 24/7 or daily usage, even if you have sufficient cooling

Increasing voltage beyond that has a huge impact on the CPU's lifespan, even if it is kept cool by LN or phase change cooling

People who go to 1.4v+ usually only do it temporarily to run benchmarks, try to beat personal records, or whatever, but not to use the PC every day like that

 

The colder you keep it the less chance of degradation happening though, 1.45v 24/7 on phase shouldn't be an issue at all since the CPU will be below zero 99% of the time.

 

I spent 6 hours benching my CPU at over 1.6v at -62c (DICE), and the CPU still does the exact same clocks at the same voltages it did before. (1.335v 5 ghz on my custom loop)

 

I think people vastly overestimate how fast degradation & "damaging" the CPU happens.  Also I think with C-states on damage @ 1.4v 24/7 won't even happen if you're not loading the CPU the entire time.

I'm not sure if all boards do this, but if I leave c-states on & set manual vcore, the vcore still lowers itself at idle / light loads, like adaptive voltage does.

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Well I bumped up to 1.3v and got 4.6ghz so I am happy with that as long as it isn't bad for it

it's fine, and i highly doubt that pushing say 1.35v would improve anything stability wise...from my testing, those CPU's either overclock well, or they don't...if you push 1.3V and struggle to get it stable, then that mean you try too hard. my CPU is happy at 4.2ghz with only 1.18v, and i need 1.3v to get 4.3ghz stable so it,s just not worth it. (my CPU is on the low side, yes.)

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The colder you keep it the less chance of degradation happening though, 1.45v 24/7 on phase shouldn't be an issue at all since the CPU will be below zero 99% of the time.

 

I spent 6 hours benching my CPU at over 1.6v at -62c (DICE), and the CPU still does the exact same clocks at the same voltages it did before. (1.335v 5 ghz on my custom loop)

 

I think people vastly overestimate how fast degradation & "damaging" the CPU happens.  Also I think with C-states on damage @ 1.4v 24/7 won't even happen if you're not loading the CPU the entire time.

I'm not sure if all boards do this, but if I leave c-states on & set manual vcore, the vcore still lowers itself at idle / light loads, like adaptive voltage does.

I'm pretty sure that's not how electronics works at all...

You put too much current through a device, it will fail even if you have it at normal temperature

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I'm pretty sure that's not how electronics works at all...

You put too much current through a device, it will fail even if you have it at normal temperature

 

 

Definitely not, CPU's become more voltage tolerant the lower the temperature, how do you think people bench at 2v on Ln2? Lol

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Definitely not, CPU's become more voltage tolerant the lower the temperature, how do you think people bench at 2v on Ln2? Lol

and HOW LONG do you think a CPU can sustain 2v on LN2 son?

1 run? 2 run?...3 if you're lucky!

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Definitely not, CPU's become more voltage tolerant the lower the temperature, how do you think people bench at 2v on Ln2? Lol

people don't run 2v on LN2 for multiple years

they run it for a couple minutes, hours at most

 

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and HOW LONG do you think a CPU can sustain 2v on LN2 son?

 

There are plenty of people that have been benching subzero with the same 4790k/4770k's for months now without killing them, regularly running 1.75v+.

CPU's are a lot less delicate than people think, especially when they're at subzero temps.

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Definitely not, CPU's become more voltage tolerant the lower the temperature, how do you think people bench at 2v on Ln2? Lol

Yeah aren't you like changing the property of the metal or something.

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people don't run 2v on LN2 for multiple years

they run it for a couple minutes, hours at most

 

http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/96569/are-devices-damaged-by-high-current-or-high-temperature

 

 

Multiple people in that link are saying you can run beyond rated specifications with colder temps, not sure what you're trying to say with the link lol

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Multiple people in that link are saying you can run beyond rated specifications with colder temps, not sure what you're trying to say with the link lol

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When did I say that you can't run beyond rated specifications???

did you even read my first post?

 

i think its pretty obvious that overclocking is already running beyond rated specifications

 

my point is that the more voltage you add, the more you decrease it's lifespan, even if it is at low temperatures

of course 1.3 or 1.4v is not a significant decrease, but beyond that the lifespan decreases exponentially

 

you can try to put 20v through a CPU that is at -200C and you will kill it

doesn't matter that it is running cool

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