And Fx 8320 with gtx 970?

[FruitBasketSilex]

i dig what is the best solution...

since my 4790k has limited PCIe Gen3 lanes (20 i think it is)

i must be as efficient as possible... so instead of using up many lanes on many cards, a dual GPU suits my needs. it uses only a single X16, leaving more room to add other things into my system.

i do not, under any circumstance dispute intel being better at a certain price point. I do however dispute the biased bullshit that is served on a silver platter to people who do not know the reality of things.

Besides the normal sarcastic BS I would spew, I've got a single question.

What.

You have twenty lanes.

You would like to use them more efficiently.

1 x16 used up

Vs.

2 x8 used up.

8x2=16.

16 lanes used either way.

Alright. Whatever.

Good day.

[Prysin]

Besides the normal sarcastic BS I would spew, I've got a single question.

What.

You have twenty lanes.

You would like to use them more efficiently.

1 x16 used up

Vs.

2 x8 used up.

8x2=16.

16 lanes used either way.

Alright. Whatever.

Good day.

i have only so many connectors on ma board man...

 

and i plan to use my x4 gen3 M.2 NVME compatible connector to drive a Samsung 950 Pro 512GB..... which means ill be up at 20...

 

however

 

my boards bottom x16 connector only has x4 lanes.

when i activate my M.2, my second x16 connector is deactivated....

 

i cannot CF normally and still get a M.2 drive.

 

Good evening

[Enderman]

you know, with each and every post, your blatant bias just shines brighter and brighter....

 

sadly, you faill to read the line where i said "FX8 is a waste of money. He should save up for a Skylake i5"....

 

EDIT:

i am sick of your fanboyism. Welcome to my ignore list. Enjoy your stay kind sir. And do not bother to reply to my post, i will not bother checking what you wrote.

 

you fail to realize he's building a PC from scratch, not upgrading one

there is no reason to get a 8350 if he can afford a used i5 which costs the same and performs better

 

apparently now saying that something performs better, when it actually does, is "fanboyism" ?

lol

that's exactly what linus talked about not that long ago on a wan show

 

"if you are calling people fanboys because they buy a product for being better than another product, you need to take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror and think about what you're doing with your life" -Linus 2015

[Enderman]

He clearly doesn't know much about tech, we're trying to help him get as much as possible for his money and save some of it so it doesn't go to waste. You're doing what he exactly asked for, without any imagination. Any valuable employer would prefer a creative employee, rather than one that only follows the rules brainlessly.

 

Yeah, because some people don't want to spend hours calculating fps per dollar breaking their head trying to make the right decision.

 

Instead of recommending 20 different products and configurations, just tell him the best option and get on with it, there's no need for pages of arguments about "why one CPU is cheaper and performs worse but still has potential when used with games that have greater emphasis on core count than core performance therefore you should buy processor X with motherboard Y or Z if you have A amount of money, or save up to B amount for B and C combo blablabla..."

 

This is the reason so many people choose to go with consoles instead. Too many PC gamers overcomplicate everything  trying to "help" someone who just wants a simple yes or no answer (thats just an example, not saying OP wants  a yes or no answer)

[Morgan MLGman]

Yeah, because some people don't want to spend hours calculating fps per dollar breaking their head trying to make the right decision.

 

Instead of recommending 20 different products and configurations, just tell him the best option and get on with it, there's no need for pages of arguments about "why one CPU is cheaper and performs worse but still has potential when used with games that have greater emphasis on core count than core performance therefore you should buy processor X with motherboard Y or Z if you have A amount of money, or save up to B amount for Band C combo blablabla..."

 

This is the reason so many people choose to go with consoles instead. Too many PC gamers overcomplicate everything  trying to "help" someone who just wants a simple yes or no answer (thats just an example)

Yeah, it's best to keep it simple. My point is, I'm not telling you the i5-4690k or an i7 is worse or not worth getting. If the OP "recently" built a PC with a 8320 + GTX 970 it's not worth it upgrading as for right now, unless he has enough money to get an i7. He should stick with it for the time being, overclock it and it would work just fine with his GTX 970 (I've used this combo, it's an 8350 but it doesn't matter at all), it's more than capable of running any game as for today, so waiting a year for Zen/Kaby Lake(cause that's the name of the next line, right?) is his best bet in my opinion, cause he won't feel a difference for his money, definitely not enough to justify all of this (costs, time, work) put into doing the swap

[FruitBasketSilex]

i have only so many connectors on ma board man...

and i plan to use my x4 gen3 M.2 NVME compatible connector to drive a Samsung 950 Pro 512GB..... which means ill be up at 20...

however

my boards bottom x16 connector only has x4 lanes.

when i activate my M.2, my second x16 connector is deactivated....

i cannot CF normally and still get a M.2 drive.

Good evening

2 things.

1:

What the hell do you need a 950 pro for?

Nothing, more than likely.

2:

Crossfire doesn't require x8. It'll run just fine at x4. Giving you 12 lanes to use, you could run three precious 950 pros that you don't have a use for with the leftover bandwidth.

[Morgan MLGman]

2 things.

1:

What the hell do you need a 950 pro for?

Nothing, more than likely.

2:

Crossfire doesn't require x8. It'll run just fine at x4. Giving you 12 lanes to use, you could run three precious 950 pros that you don't have a use for with the leftover bandwidth.

GPU running at X4 decreases performance even by 15% in some cases, usually it's around 10% decrease. Considering he's got a 295x2, he doesn't want that.

[Prysin]

you fail to realize he's building a PC from scratch, not upgrading one

there is no reason to get a 8350 if he can afford a used i5 which costs the same and performs better

 

apparently now saying that something performs better, when it actually does, is "fanboyism" ?

lol

that's exactly what linus talked about not that long ago on a wan show

 

"if you are calling people fanboys because they buy a product for being better than another product, you need to take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror and think about what you're doing with your life" -Linus 2015

the reason you ended up on my ignore list, is because you read the first two lines, ignore the rest of my post, then reply with out of context, and incoherent jibber.

Also, in terms of setups... mine rivals yours, if not beats it outright in raw specs... so that apparently make me a massive fanboy then... since i dumped my money into performance parts way better then any FX setup, ever.

 

re-read the thread, then compare your posts with what i actually wrote.

then re-read the thread, then compare your posts with what i actually wrote.

then re-read the thread, then compare your posts with what i actually wrote.

then re-read the thread, then compare your posts with what i actually wrote.

 

Good night. Oh and you are actually ON the ignore list now, so i wont get to see your next reply. so do not bother.

[Enderman]

 

 

lol good job on adding me to the ignore list the first time, totally knew you would do that, fake threats always work right? nope

it doesn't matter if you add me or not, I write on forums to help prevent other people from making stupid decisions, so I don't care if you read this or not since other people will, and that's the entire point.

 

If I wanted only you to read this I would have sent a private message

[FruitBasketSilex]

GPU running at X4 decreases performance even by 15% in some cases, usually it's around 10% decrease. Considering he's got a 295x2, he doesn't want that.

I meant for two cards, bud.

Regardless, 950 pro is a waste of his money, probably just making shit up about why his PCIE lanes are so abnormally precious to him.

Please, @Prysin tell me what you absolutely need the 950 pro for.

[Prysin]

I meant for two cards, bud.

Regardless, 950 pro is a waste of his money, probably just making shit up about why his PCIE lanes are so abnormally precious to him.

Please, @Prysin tell me what you absolutely need the 950 pro for.

upgrade itch... also, need to boot up certain software faster/ drastically cut down loading times in two games...

[Morgan MLGman]

upgrade itch... also, need to boot up certain software faster/ drastically cut down loading times in two games...

Yeah, as a PC enthusiast it's more than expected to do some upgrades that are not really that necessary but you just want to have more/better. I have no idea what issue does he have with you buying a super-fast SSD

[FruitBasketSilex]

upgrade itch... also, need to boot up certain software faster/ drastically cut down loading times in two games...

• There is no game in existence in which an 850 evo or other ssd would not load fast enough assuming you're not some oh, i can cut two seconds off my load time for the low low price of 300$ kind of idiot.

[Tristn1]

the only bottleneck i can think of is the 8320 being am3+ and mobo's only use pcie 16x 2.0 were the card uses pcie 16x 3.0

[Morgan MLGman]

the only bottleneck i can think of is the 8320 being am3+ and mobo's only use pcie 16x 2.0 were the card uses pcie 16x 3.0

Even PCIE 2.0 8X doesn't bottleneck a GPU, you're fine. If you really can't play games on that setup, then something's wrong. Look at the video I recorded of 7 games using that setup, FX-8350 @4,5ghz and a GTX 970 with a mediocre overclock:

Do you get similar performance? (The video might be laggy, I am a noob in video recording and I needed to compress it which kinda fucked it up, try to look at the FPS counter cause that's what counts)

[Tristn1]

Even PCIE 2.0 8X doesn't bottleneck a GPU, you're fine. If you really can't play games on that setup, then something's wrong. Look at the video I recorded of 7 games using that setup, FX-8350 @4,5ghz and a GTX 970 with a mediocre overclock:

Do you get similar performance? (The video might be laggy, I am a noob in video recording and I needed to compress it which kinda fucked it up, try to look at the FPS counter cause that's what counts)

i have never gotten a bottleneck but i also use a r9 290 with no issues.

[PlayStation 2]

Only at LTT can we argue about someone to quote unquote "upgrade" to an i5 from an FX he already has

[Nena Trinity]

It will work if you OC to 4.5GHz or above!

[Tristn1]

i have just recently been informed that pcie gen 2 does cause bottlenecks to cards because i have a 7850 and i only got 100 fps on average playing tf2 but when its put in with a skylake cpu it gets 300 fps playing tf2