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I can't make a decision between buy a Badass iMac 27 or building a Badass PC. I wanted to get some idea's from you guys. I am an FPS, MMO, Racing and RPG gamer.Give my your thoughts and Idea's. Thanks

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Don't get an iMac for gaming.

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This must be a joke..

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I vote gaming pc.  Mac's aren't too friendly to gaming.

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Moved to New Builds and Planning.

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Pc 100%. Better performance and support for games.

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PC the Mac will have troubles handeling the games smooth

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I can't make a decision between buy a Badass iMac 27 or building a Badass PC. I wanted to get some idea's from you guys. I am an FPS, MMO, Racing and RPG gamer.Give my your thoughts and Idea's. Thanks

What's your budget please for a Badass PC, i'll try and build ya one?

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Are you kidding? Cause if you kidding you gotta let me know now...

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But the iMac will be the envy of the neighbors.

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Compromise: build a custom gaming rig and dual boot osx and ubuntu.

Why dual boot OSX and Ubuntu, surely it would be better to dual boot a version of Windows and OSX.

(Unless you mean Windows 10 when you see OSX?)

An AMD cpu has no place in a solely gaming build, end of.

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Why dual boot OSX and Ubuntu, surely it would be better to dual boot a version of Windows and OSX.

(Unless you mean Windows 10 when you see OSX?)

Everybody knows that the latest apple release is MSX!

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Everybody knows that the latest apple release is MSX!

Thats what it was, I was thinking it stood for Operating System 10 meaning Windows 10 but that makes alot more sense.

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An AMD cpu has no place in a solely gaming build, end of.

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Assuming your budget is $2k (what these 5k iMacs cost), you can do this for less:

 

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CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($53.55 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sandisk SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($54.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($39.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 380 4GB PCS+ Video Card  ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($56.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($47.60 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: HP Z27q 60Hz 27.0" Monitor  ($1170.17 @ Amazon)
Total: $1811.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-27 15:09 EST-0500

 

It'll be significantly better in gaming since it doesn't use crap-tastic laptop components, and you can even throw in a $100 Windows license and still come in under the price of the iMac.

 

If we're talking price to performance or even just specs in general, Apple will always lose unless they have a weird monopoly on the tech.

 

 

 

...that being said, 5k is stupid right now. If you must, just get a 4k screen and call it a day. You won't be able to drive games well on 5k and scaling things up to 5k does NOT involve integer ratios from 1080p, so it's not a good resolution for things like content consumption. If it were me and you absolutely had to have a high resolution display, I'd do the following:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($254.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Shadow Rock 2 51.4 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler  ($49.90 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($77.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.45 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 390 8GB PCS+ Video Card  ($289.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($56.10 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($116.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Dell P2415Q 60Hz 23.8" Monitor  ($409.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $1454.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-11-27 15:16 EST-0500

 

You can easily slap in a second R9 390 to drive that 4k display for even demanding games.

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If he wants to drive a 4K display, surely he should use that left over $500 from the second build to get a Fury X or 980 Ti...

Also, an 850W PSU for a 6600K and R9 390?!

Shit, sorry. Only just noticed the suggestion of a second R9 390... With the budget you might as well have just included that anyway.

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Never get an Apple for gaming.

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If he wants to drive a 4K display, surely he should use that left over $500 from the second build to get a Fury X or 980 Ti...

Also, an 850W PSU for a 6600K and R9 390?!

Shit, sorry. Only just noticed the suggestion of a second R9 390... With the budget you might as well have just included that anyway.

Considering his original plan involved a mobile GPU that wasn't even a high-end mobile GPU, I figured a single 390 would probably be sufficient. I left room for expansion because @4k it can get demanding if he decides to play AAA titles.

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What's your budget please for a Badass PC, i'll try and build ya one?

My budget is about $3500.

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If your primary goal is to game then you shouldn't be considering an iMac, you'd be better off looking at an ITX or HTPC sort of custom build with a high-end monitor. Don't get me wrong, the iMac 5K is great, but honestly you're much better off investing in a custom PC to meet your gaming needs.

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My budget is about $3500.

What resolution are you talking about wanting? As well, what games will you be playing on it? Because with 3.5k you can build a wicked setup.

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My budget is about $3500.

Sure, let me get ya one setup.

My build : http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Ck8VkL

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[spoiler spoiler=Laptop] I7 3232QM | Nvidia GT635M | 17.6" TN | 1TB HD | 6GB RAM

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My budget is about $3500.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BygzQ7 Tada!

The build is red and black, it might not be great so you may want to have others have a look and see what they think, the CD drive is there for good measure and for Windows if ya need to install it via a disk, the monitor is a 144HZ TN G-sync panel as I don't know what resolution or if you prefer TN or IPS, so I chose the best for gaming.

The PSU should do the job safely.

And there is no need to fork out on Titan's when a 980 TI is very close to their performance.

My build : http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Ck8VkL

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[spoiler spoiler=Laptop] I7 3232QM | Nvidia GT635M | 17.6" TN | 1TB HD | 6GB RAM

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