Razer quietly releases Naga Chroma (NOT EPIC)

[Swndlr]

Might be mine soon, big fan of the Naga

[patrickjp93]

As one who has come to hate programming the emacs config file (seriously, LISP you damn GNU jackasses?!), I have to admit the Naga is actually my mouse of choice for being able to enable flymake, auto completion, various debug/optimization modes, and run timing scripts on my finished programs rapid-fire.

[Curufinwe_wins]

So what I guess I'am trying to say with this, is that I would have thought that by now gamers would have caught on to better mice with 10< side macro buttons that companies continue to develop and seemingly push. The MMO mice seems like a niche market, in comparison to the mice designed for twitch Shooters and so it is not a massive market - Although it seems like a less crowed portion of the gaming mouse market so companies like Razer still sell enough to make it worthwhile, and it also from the responses it appears there are still buyers. 

 

Even if you don't game with all the buttons (I contend that the standard dpi buttons positioning is almost completely worthless for gaming, as they are on every single mouse, but hey some people like them), it is so easy to throw utility stuff on there instead of using keyboard macro's which is not only easier to remember, but MUCH more convenient .

 

Furthermore, three of the buttons are scroll wheel related (which while being fine for macros/rare use on the fly), is not a place most people would put things they plan on using a lot. I use right scroll click as a soundswitch macro for example.

 

I mean really there are 12 side buttons. For palm grip, at least 9 of them should be instantly use-able without motion just by feel. The bottom three (or top three if you have really short thumb) then are more rare use, just as keyboard binds are done.

 

(If you have a huge thumb but not necessarily a long finger, then perhaps the top 6 and bottom three would be easiest for regular use).

 

No one disagrees that MMO mice is a niche market. I will however personally disagree that lower button mice naturally are better for anything, but hey I can keep track of things, just as all other players somehow manage to keep track of their keyboard binds...

 

I mean sure you can use fewer mouse buttons as modifiers, but that has more points of failure than just using buttons by themselves. 

[Derangel]

I love my Naga 2014 but the scroll wheel is starting to give out so I've been looking at replacing it with something. Not sure if I'll go for the Naga Chroma or the Naga Epic Chroma. I don't need all the buttons but it's one of the few mice I've had that I really like the feel of and the Naga Epic is about the only wireless mouse that gets my attention.

 

 

Yeah, I'm kinda pissed since I asked Razor about it (a few weeks ago) and they said "no info and unlikely since we already have the Naga Epic Chroma". Bought the Naga 2014 and guess what: the Naga Chroma was suddenly on their page.... bunch of morons

 

Well, of course they said that. Do you really expect tier one CSRs to be told about unannounced products? You don't tell tier 1 support anything you don't want leaked.

[vetali]

I also have a G700 - and for almost all games I suppose with the exception of MMO's it has plenty of buttons without being over top, I don't know how anyone could actually use all 19 some odd buttons and know exactly where they all are and they all do when the time is right. You will remember some of the common ones but unless you are a superstar 24/7 MMO player I doubt you will get that much use out of it.

 

You'd be surprised how many people will buy a mouse like this to try and be good because somebody on youtube or twitch uses one. I remember at one time while searching for guilds I found some tryhard one that required nagas. That was the peak of the ridiculousness for me. 

[Kobathor]

who uses razer?

all about corsair

... or for the poor people.. logitech.. like me

Dude, logitech mice are the only mice for me. Friend's brand new Deathadder died in four months (of normal use, he doesn't slam it on the table in rage or anything.) My G300 original is going strong after more than a year, and my parent's Bluetooth mouse has lasted more than two with no damage.

[Curufinwe_wins]

 

As one who has come to hate programming the emacs config file (seriously, LISP you damn GNU jackasses?!), I have to admit the Naga is actually my mouse of choice for being able to enable flymake, auto completion, various debug/optimization modes, and run timing scripts on my finished programs rapid-fire.

 

I spent a year bringing a naga to work every day for those (well direct parallels) reasons lol. Now I get to leave it there.

 

I've tried other Massively Multi-function Optimized (MMO LOL) mice, but the program specific profile swap is what keeps me coming back.

 

 

You'd be surprised how many people will buy a mouse like this to try and be good because somebody on youtube or twitch uses one. I remember at one time while searching for guilds I found some tryhard one that required nagas. That was the peak of the ridiculousness for me. 

 

That is true... but if you already have the skills, the good guilds always make exceptions (yay for clicking your way to the hardest game content then learning keybinding with terrible habits...) 

[totjup5]

I don't think Logitech's gear is for poor people. Yeah they do make some cheap products, but they also have some higher end stuff to compete with the other gaming gear on the market.

I agree, I love my G502, and an 80$ mouse really isn't my definition of cheap...

[Brainless906]

inb4 blind Razer hatred.

 

Do people actually buy these kinds of mice? "MMO" style with 20+ buttons. I kinda thought that these were going the way of the dinosaurs... 

I've owned a M95 with 15 buttons for quite some time now and i couldn't be happier...and I dont even play MMOs anymore....

[QwarkDreams]

 

Damn... And it's not even more expensive either... I'm just happy I didn't decide to grab a second one solely for work (well my 2014 is going to work actually) until last week, and it had just been released.

 

Actually, it is more expensive. Razer has the Naga Chroma listed at ~100€ and I bought it from Amazon for ~84€ (and in about half an hour they'll have it even cheaper during their Cyber Monday Week Sale). I'm planning on returning it once they have the Naga Chroma in stock (which should hopefully be in about a week or two).

Edit: 65€ for the Razer Naga 2014 now....I really don't have any luck with deals right now...

 

I love my Naga 2014 but the scroll wheel is starting to give out so I've been looking at replacing it with something. Not sure if I'll go for the Naga Chroma or the Naga Epic Chroma. I don't need all the buttons but it's one of the few mice I've had that I really like the feel of and the Naga Epic is about the only wireless mouse that gets my attention.

 

 

 

Well, of course they said that. Do you really expect tier one CSRs to be told about unannounced products? You don't tell tier 1 support anything you don't want leaked.

 

When they "escalated my case" to a "specialist" I only got a guide for issuing an RMA in return....pretty useless.

 

Be aware that some people report the Naga Epic Chroma having a noticeable lag when used wireless.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Actually, it is more expensive. Razer has the Naga Chroma listed at ~100€ and I bought it from Amazon for ~84€ (and in about half an hour they'll have it even cheaper during their Cyber Monday Week Sale). I'm planning on returning it once they have the Naga Chroma in stock (which should hopefully be in about a week or two).

Edit: 65€ for the Razer Naga 2014 now....I really don't have any luck with deals right now...

When they "escalated my case" to a "specialist" I only got a guide for issuing an RMA in return....pretty useless.

Be aware that some people report the Naga Epic Chroma having a noticeable lag when used wireless.

Ok. It isn't more expensive in USD. Obviously I don't know and can't tell you if it is in other currencies.

The Naga 2014 was/is selling for 79.99 USD, this variant also sells for 79.99 USD.

100 pounds seems truely insane. You sure you weren't looking at the epic?

THIS IS NOT THE EPIC MODEL. It is nothing more or less than the 2014 model with RGB lighting.

[QwarkDreams]

Ok. It isn't more expensive in USD. Obviously I don't know and can't tell you if it is in other currencies.

The Naga 2014 was/is selling for 79.99 USD, this variant also sells for 79.99 USD.

100 pounds seems truely insane. You sure you weren't looking at the epic?

THIS IS NOT THE EPIC MODEL. It is nothing more or less than the 2014 model with RGB lighting.

 

Razer's store is absolutely overpriced! I just checked and the Razer Naga 2014 costs here 100€ (cheapest found via Geizhals.at is 79€ regular and 65€ right now on Amazon as a Blitzangebot) too, the Naga Epic Chroma even 160€ (cheapest found via Geizhals.at is 125€). Those prices are horrendous! And they don't even let you pay with PayPal here.

 

btw, not pounds, but euro

[Curufinwe_wins]

Razer's store is absolutely overpriced! I just checked and the Razer Naga 2014 costs here 100€ (cheapest found via Geizhals.at is 79€ regular and 65€ right now on Amazon as a Blitzangebot) too, the Naga Epic Chroma even 160€ (cheapest found via Geizhals.at is 125€). Those prices are horrendous! And they don't even let you pay with PayPal here.

btw, not pounds, but euro

Yea my bad. Wasn't looking carefully.

But yea the distinction between the epic chroma and non-epic chroma is quite important...

[QwarkDreams]

Yea my bad. Wasn't looking carefully.

But yea the distinction between the epic chroma and non-epic chroma is quite important...

 

Also, another reason why I decided to go with the Naga 2104 instead of the Naga Epic Chroma is the non-removeable battery. It will die eventually or become unusable without the cable plugged in because it can't hold enough of a charge to use it wirelessly. At least with the old Naga Epic you could take them out without any effort. Best thing: only 6 months limited warranty on the battery while the mouse itself has 2 years.

[Vozella]

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[Curufinwe_wins]

Also, another reason why I decided to go with the Naga 2104 instead of the Naga Epic Chroma is the non-removeable battery. It will die eventually or become unusable without the cable plugged in because it can't hold enough of a charge to use it wirelessly. At least with the old Naga Epic you could take them out without any effort. Best thing: only 6 months limited warranty on the battery while the mouse itself has 2 years.

OUCH WTF.... Glad a non-wireless naga rgb came out then.

 

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Well they do normally... Just Apple, so when cool shit flys under the radar, it's surprising.

[QwarkDreams]

OUCH WTF.... Glad a non-wireless naga rgb came out then.

 

Well, Razer does sell a replacement for the rechargeable battery but only with a catch:

 

"Compatible with: Razer Mamba 2012, Razer Naga Epic and Star Wars: The Old Republic Gaming Mouse"

http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-high-endurance-rechargeable-lithium-ion-battery

 

Although, 20 bucks ain't that bad (depending on how long it will last you).

 

I hope Amazon has it in stock soon so I can send the Naga 2014 back and the the Chroma one.