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To note that is just a DAC, pretty much out of my budget kind of, don't really want to spend more on DAC/Amp than on headphones at my current price point. Only if I could afford Stax-009s. ):

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To note that is just a DAC, pretty much out of my budget kind of, don't really want to spend more on DAC/Amp than on headphones at my current price point. Only if I could afford Stax-009s. ):

 

Whatever you do, don't buy the schiit magni/modni combo. I can't get it through that it is a badly designed amplifier and DAC that looks good. Most of their other products are okay, but are a bit expensive.

 

If you are looking to spend less on something that sounds good, the objective2 amp/DAC combo will fit your budget.

 

http://www.mayflowerelectronics.com/objective2-amplifer-with-odac.html

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I will back up the O2/ODAC recommendation as i have an O2 amp myself and its dead neutral  compared to my e11 witch has a hint of warmth to the low end (because of the phase change) 

 

I have tried both the Hd 600 and Hd 650s and all i can say is

the HD 600 over the HD 650 any day, music is sooo much fuller with a proper amp with the hd 600

 

O2/ODAC is a very good combo for both HD 600 and HD 650s

 

(judged on mesuerments)

HE 500 over the HD 600 and day

 

*Note

He 500 will not be able to be driven by the O2 you will need something like the Asgard to be able to push orthos, i recommend getting the ODAC standalone and the Asgard if you want to go that route

 

I will also never recommend tube amps as they just distort the sound, i prefer a neutral amp and only the headphones to coulor the sound

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The magni/modi is simply not better than the o2/ODAC and proper measurements can prove that. Anyone with an EE background can easily pick apart the circuits that they (schiit) produce. I don't want to raise an argument but with two points I can prove this (the schiit has higher output impedance, and a fixed high gain setting) that the o2/ODAC does not have. 

 

Although to each his own!

 

That 6x gain is just silly.  Watching people on head-fi put attenuators on the Magni's inputs is enough to disuade me, personally.

 

I didn't know about the higher output impedance.  They advertise a near impossible 0.1 Ohms on their site.  They wouldn't lie, now, would they?

"Pardon my French but this is just about the most ignorant blanket statement I've ever read. And though this is the internet, I'm not even exaggerating."

 

 

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I highly doubt its .1 ohms, the o2 is .5 ohms which is incredibly low, most hover around the 2-4 ohm margin. I wouldn't trust any numbers without proof from measurements.

Is that how low it measures or is that the simulated impedance?

Grammar and spelling is not indicative of intelligence/knowledge.  Not having the same opinion does not always mean lack of understanding.  

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Is that how low it measures or is that the simulated impedance?

 

Yeah, they have it show off it's best angles, if you will.  Same thing with the rest of the audio industry.  And the IT industry.

"Pardon my French but this is just about the most ignorant blanket statement I've ever read. And though this is the internet, I'm not even exaggerating."

 

 

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