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Because I think they are. They're not all hazardous power supplies and h81 boards with a k chipset to save money

http://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/3xs-swordfish

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/8pack-supernova-intel-core-i7-5960x-4.6ghz-ddr4-extreme-overclocked-pc-fs-001-8p.html

 

 

If they are not badly built pcs, then they are overpriced, there is no winning with pre-builts

 

Most "fancy" pre-builts are often hundreds sometimes thousands of pounds over the price you could buy the parts for

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Because I think they are. They're not all hazardous power supplies and h81 boards with a k chipset to save money

http://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/3xs-swordfish

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/8pack-supernova-intel-core-i7-5960x-4.6ghz-ddr4-extreme-overclocked-pc-fs-001-8p.html

You could build those computers for far less so.....

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Because I think they are. They're not all hazardous power supplies and h81 boards with a k chipset to save money

http://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/3xs-swordfish

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/8pack-supernova-intel-core-i7-5960x-4.6ghz-ddr4-extreme-overclocked-pc-fs-001-8p.html

 

"h81 boards with a k chipset to save money"

 

Useless bullshit. What's the point of having an unlocked processor on a non-overclocking capable board? None. 

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"h81 boards with a k chipset to save money"

 

Useless bullshit. What's the point of having an unlocked processor on a non-overclocking capable board? None. 

 

he said "they are not all like that"

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he said "they are not all like that"

 

Whoops. They're still terrible for the money. They're definitely nice, but you could build the same system yourself for much less.

 

That being said, I could understand why someone would want to buy a pre-built. Maybe they don't have the time, maybe they don't have the motivation to build their own...

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What you posted are more or less "boutique custom computers". Not at all what people mean when they say "pre-built". 

 

In the case of what you posted, people who have the money, but not the time/creativity/knowledge etc, pay someone to build a great computer for them. This can be nice in general, you often get warranties and tech support out of the deal. But for most of us, we enjoy building the systems as much has using/looking at it. 

 

In the case of actual prebuilt from HP, Dell etc. - they can be mismatched components, low end parts, proprietary designs - and designed to last only a couple years. But, if you know what you are buying, nothing wrong with getting one - they are often cheaper than a custom system. 

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Here's a build with the same components as the second prebuilt ( which is the most expensive );

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/7qP3P6

 

It's under half the price of the prebuilt, and you can even replace the aio cooler ( which will reach 4.6ghz ) by a custom loop if you want ( which will cost less then a thousand GBP).

 

The hard drives are faster ( black series instead of red , 7200rpm vs 5900rpm ), the power supply is from a reputable brand and enough to power your system , instead of the no-brand 2000w (overkill) psu in the prebuilt ( i've never heard of superflower before...), which could probably at best kill your system a few years down the line or -at worst- , burn your house down ).

 

And yes the case is different , but it looks similar , as you can't find that case on the market.

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The only reason people see value in pre-builts is because either they are too lazy to do it themselves, or second-guess themselves to the point where they're put into a mild psychosis if a stack of parts is put in front of them and they're told to "build it", because they're afraid that "they'll break it". It's really a non-answer, especially when I could easily go out now, pick up some cheap parts, take them to the kids down the street and say "hey, wanna build a computer?" They could do it easily. A seven-year-old girl can build a PC in as little time as any of us could, if said kid were interested and willing to learn how it's done. In fact, with good motor skills, kids would probably be better at it that us big folk. Smaller hands, see.

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Here's a build with the same components as the second prebuilt ( which is the most expensive );

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/7qP3P6

 

It's under half the price of the prebuilt, and you can even replace the aio cooler ( which will reach 4.6ghz ) by a custom loop if you want ( which will cost less then a thousand GBP).

 

The hard drives are faster ( black series instead of red , 7200rpm vs 5900rpm ), the power supply is from a reputable brand and enough to power your system , instead of the no-brand 2000w (overkill) psu in the prebuilt ( i've never heard of superflower before...), which could probably at best kill your system a few years down the line or -at worst- , burn your house down ).

 

And yes the case is different , but it looks similar , as you can't find that case on the market.

 

Super Flower makes about the best psus in the business, including the one you chose in the pcpartpicker link.

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Super Flower makes about the best psus in the business, including the one you chose in the pcpartpicker link.

Oh , never heard about them .

Well i'll eat my words then .lol.

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Because I think they are. They're not all hazardous power supplies and h81 boards with a k chipset to save money

http://www.scan.co.uk/3xs/configurator/3xs-swordfish

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/8pack-supernova-intel-core-i7-5960x-4.6ghz-ddr4-extreme-overclocked-pc-fs-001-8p.html

 

These are not classifiable as pre-built, even though they kind of are. These are boutique systems that are definitely good, just very overpriced. Pre-built systems are generally crap, even the Alienware ones are no good, because they use custom motherboards other components that are a pain to work with and upgrade after while. 

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I don't think people should be surprised that you're going to pay through the teeth to have someone build you a custom loop of that quality. A custom loop like that with all those metal fittings, the braided cables, the leds, I mean that's a build someone probably spent at least a couple of days making and you're paying for labor. That case is chock full of rads, that does not look like a simple loop to build. And that is such a beautiful job they did with it. If you have crazy money I can see ordering one of the boutique builds, hell, I'd buy that system if I won the lottery since I don't think I could do that great of a job on my own.

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Here's a build with the same components as the second prebuilt ( which is the most expensive );

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/7qP3P6

 

It's under half the price of the prebuilt, and you can even replace the aio cooler ( which will reach 4.6ghz ) by a custom loop if you want ( which will cost less then a thousand GBP).

 

The hard drives are faster ( black series instead of red , 7200rpm vs 5900rpm ), the power supply is from a reputable brand and enough to power your system , instead of the no-brand 2000w (overkill) psu in the prebuilt ( i've never heard of superflower before...), which could probably at best kill your system a few years down the line or -at worst- , burn your house down ).

 

And yes the case is different , but it looks similar , as you can't find that case on the market.

that loop is at least 1000 and you've never heard of superflower?
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that loop is at least 1000 and you've never heard of superflower?

i do not know of every brand in the world, ok?

Also, a custom loop doesnt cost much more than 1000 dollars.

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Sometimes they are good but still way to costly! :(

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