Gonna be making a Zen/Arctic islands

[TechGod]

1. Budget & Location:

Around $3000 NZD so the location is obviously New Zealand 

 

2.Aim:

Definitely for gaming 

 

3. Number of monitors:

I don't envision using more than one monitor.

 

It'll be my first build and I know I'll be throwing in:

-8 gigs of DDR4 RAM at maybe 2400mhz because quite frankly, I don't think I need super fast RAM. (will preferably be a known brand like Kingston or Corsair)

-The quad core variant of the Zen CPU if its performance is comparable to at least haswell (I know its scheduled for Q3 2016 but that's good since it gives me time to save)

-A 4K IPS panel (most likely this)

-There's the logitec G303 mouse I was eyeing up

-500GB Samsung EVO 840 SSD

-Windows 10

-Obviously I have to wait for the AM4 socketed mobo options

-Most likely a 500 watt PSU silver rated 

-"Greenlands" GPU

-No idea about what case I want to use

-G19S Logitec keyboard

 

 

Obviously the most important things (CPU, GPU and mobo) aren't available yet but the other things are available. Do you recommend buying everything in one go or buy the components whenever I can? Oh and any case suggestions? I don't necessarily care about a "compact" build but from what I've seen, the bigger cases can be pretty expensive.  

[comicsansms]

Don't plan for a computer that contains parts that are not going to be made for AT LEAST 1 year.

[Benji_w]

Inb4 someone says Zen will be shit and you should get a locked i5...

 

No OP just save uo your money and then buy the parts when you're ready to buy in one go ie at launch, but make sure you do all your research before spending your cash.

[JebKerman]

well the SSD, PSU, Case, and peripherals could certainly be purchased before the rest comes out. But i'd still wait.

 

But i'm not so sure on the 4K panel (and 27" da hell, that's 1440p's sweet-spot). Would you purchase enough GPU power to drive it?

[Benji_w]

Don't plan for a computer that contains parts that are not going to be made for AT LEAST 1 year.

 

Why not? He needs time to save up, having a rough idea is a good starting point, if Zen ends up being pushed back for whatever reason he could either wait a bit longer or build a skylake rig, either way.

[TechGod]

Inb4 someone says Zen will be shit and you should get a locked i5...

 

No OP just save uo your money and then buy the parts when you're ready to buy in one go ie at launch, but make sure you do all your research before spending your cash.

Quite frankly, I don't understand how Zen could possibly be bad. 

[TechGod]

well the SSD, PSU, Case, and peripherals could certainly be purchased before the rest comes out. But i'd still wait.

 

But i'm not so sure on the 4K panel (and 27" da hell, that's 1440p's sweet-spot). Would you purchase enough GPU power to drive it?

The Greenlands GPU is the supposed flagship GPU so yeah. I think it'll be capable of pushing 4K.

 

EDIT: If I think about it though, I've never had a gaming rig so quite honestly I don't know if I should just purchase a 1440P monitor. 4K surely isn't that much better?

[TechGod]

Why not? He needs time to save up, having a rough idea is a good starting point, if Zen ends up being pushed back for whatever reason he could either wait a bit longer or build a skylake rig, either way.

This.

[Benji_w]

Quite frankly, I don't understand how Zen could possibly be bad. 

 

Look how Bulldozer launched lol what a shit show that was. I've got my fingers crossed for AMD because intel are pretty much just releasing new CPU's that are barely any faster everytime.

[comicsansms]

Why not? He needs time to save up, having a rough idea is a good starting point, if Zen ends up being pushed back for whatever reason he could either wait a bit longer or build a skylake rig, either way.

I am not saying buy a computer now, I am saying wait until you know what you can actually buy!

[TheRandomness]

Look how Bulldozer launched lol what a shit show that was. I've got my fingers crossed for AMD because intel are pretty much just releasing new CPU's that are barely any faster everytime.

Basically...

>inb4 Zen beats the shit out of whatever Intel produces at the time. I really have my hopes high for AMD

[TechGod]

Look how Bulldozer launched lol what a shit show that was. I've got my fingers crossed for AMD because intel are pretty much just releasing new CPU's that are barely any faster everytime.

Oh yeah but switching to SMT and not sharing the FPU between two cores would certainly help and I don't understand how AMD can lie about the 40% IPC improvement, I mean, as you mentioned, bulldozer IS kinda pathetic:P

[ThatOneRussian]

AMD wont beat Intel. IMHO. because tbh they havent done any cpu's in a few years (new ones) they dont know the market anymore. and the zen cpu's wont be as good as the current 6700k or the nvidia gpu's

[Benji_w]

I am not saying buy a computer now, I am saying wait until you know what you can actually buy!

 

So basically what the OP is doing...

 

[rattacko123]

The Greenlands GPU is the supposed flagship GPU so yeah. I think it'll be capable of pushing 4K.

 

EDIT: If I think about it though, I've never had a gaming rig so quite honestly I don't know if I should just purchase a 1440P monitor. 4K surely isn't that much better?

due to scaling, 4k might be a bad idea for a 27" display, you would need to scale at 1080p which isn't great for 27". 5k is best because you can scale at 1440p, and 1440p is the sweetspot for 27".

[Benji_w]

AMD wont beat Intel. IMHO. because tbh they havent done any cpu's in a few years (new ones) they dont know the market anymore. and the zen cpu's wont be as good as the current 6700k or the nvidia gpu's

 

LOL!!!! You really think they just stopped following the market because they haven't brought out a CPU? Omfg this forum never ceases to amaze me with all the bullshitting posts.

[TechGod]

AMD wont beat Intel. IMHO. because tbh they havent done any cpu's in a few years (new ones) they dont know the market anymore. and the zen cpu's wont be as good as the current 6700k or the nvidia gpu's

Wow wut.?????????

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[ThatOneRussian]

LOL!!!! You really think they just stopped following the market because they haven't brought out a CPU? Omfg this forum never ceases to amaze me with all the bullshitting posts.

they havent made a new cpu in years. how would they know. their market share is dying. And they havent done anything new in fucking years why would things change. smh

[JebKerman]

The Greenlands GPU is the supposed flagship GPU so yeah. I think it'll be capable of pushing 4K

at that budget that's probably gonna be quite the squeeze, if the 980 ti and titan X are anything to go by, squeezing that AND the peripherals into a 3K NZD budget i feel will be impossible. (to put it into perspecitve, the build in my sig cost about 2.3K NZD for just the case and internals, throw in a $600 monitor and you only have $100 to play with.)

[Elfuego]

AMD wont beat Intel. IMHO. because tbh they havent done any cpu's in a few years (new ones) they dont know the market anymore. and the zen cpu's wont be as good as the current 6700k or the nvidia gpu's

Umm K...

 

Dont Feed the Troll gaiz

 

Zen doesnt need to beat intel on single core; if its close to skylake IPC; but gives you double the number of cores then Zen will still stomp intel. Games are becoming quadcore + optimised so .

[ThatOneRussian]

at that budget that's probably gonna be quite the squeeze, if the 980 ti and titan X are anything to go by, squeezing that AND the peripherals into a 3K NZD budget i feel will be impossible. (to put it into perspecitve, the build in my sig cost about 2.3K NZD for just the case and internals, throw in a $600 monitor and you only have $100 to play with.)

a 980ti costs around 1300 nzd

[ThatOneRussian]

Umm K...

 

Dont Feed the Troll gaiz

haha right maybe if you showed any proof that next year will be any different from every other release

[ThatOneRussian]

the r9 fury x was meant to be a titan killer but it cant beat a 980ti custom design

[comicsansms]

So basically what the OP is doing...

 

 

You don't know what you can buy in 12 months time and what it will cost.

 

I would do minor research like should I get an SSD or what capacity HDD should I get. Stuff that will not change.

[Benji_w]

they havent made a new cpu in years. how would they know. their market share is dying. And they havent done anything new in fucking years why would things change. smh

 

Yeah I mean their research department probably sat there doing nothing right? Lmao, common sense really is becoming so rare it should be considered a super power.