Almost done just need clearance

[Pugnat]

Thanks for visiting this post 

I picked out all my parts, but I am scared to pull the trigger until I figure a few things.

Here is my part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Potna/saved/

My budget is 1300 with a little bit of overflow. 

1. Is my cheap motherboard going to affect the performance and lifespan of my computer?

a) If so, should I get an Asrock Z97 Fatal1ty Killer or the MSI Z97 Gaming 5. If you can please find me a 100-120 dollar monitor than I am willing to get a better motherboard even if the benefit is a piece of gum. 

b) Is it worth to SLI the STRIX GTX 970 with 3.5 of VRAM? If so, can my cheap motherboard take it.

2. Is the power supply that I choose a good quality and going to last me a long time. If my it is worth SLI'ing my GTX 970 STRIX in the         future. If so can you please suggest me a more powerful power supply.

3. By keeping my CPU colder, will my aftermarket cooler going to make my machine last longer

4. I know I said this already but will this computer last me a long time.  

5. If I go with the Asrock Z97 Fatal1ty Killer will the preinstalled 8.1 be a problem when I put windows 10 in.

[Aytex]

MSI gaming 5 is a solid mobo

if your playing at 1080p its worth SLI'ing 

 

get a different SSD that is one of the worst ones

intel 750/530

crucial BX/MX

samsung evo/evo pros

[TheRandomness]

The PSU. Make it die (Please, EVGA B2 or something). That SSD is crap, go with a Crucial BX100 240GB. You don't need an aftermarket cooler for a non overclockable build. How can you have 8.1 pre installed on a mobo..? 

 

Basically, this: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Vmbcpg I know the PSU is overkill but it's cheaper and it's a B2)

[zzenigmaxzz]

dont get that ssd or that psu

 

for the ssd get something like crucial samsung or intel and for the psu get a seasonic or xfx or a evga g2 or g2 series 

[Godlygamer23]

 Is it worth to SLI the STRIX GTX 970 with 3.5 of VRAM? If so, can my cheap motherboard take it.

970s have 4GB of VRAM. Your motherboard does not support SLI and the performance gain you will get is dependent on the game. Most games will yield about 80% extra performance.

 

Motherboards do not come with any software pre-installed.

[jimakos234]

Change the ssd to a bx100/samsung evo 850 and the psu to something like evga b2/g2/gs, antec HCG 520/620, seasonic s12/m12, xfx ts/xtr

[spartaman64]

970s have 4GB of VRAM. Your motherboard does not support SLI and the performance gain you will get is dependent on the game. Most games will yield about 80% extra performance.

 

Motherboards do not come with any software pre-installed.

i would go for a r9 390 as it seems to be generally slightly faster than the 970 and has 8GB of vram for about the same price but a lot of it is personal preference 

[Atmos]

Swap the 970 for a 390, same price, better all around performance and more than double the usable vram of the 970.

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Since you don't have an unlocked processor, a Z97 board is not needed. The ASRock H97M motherboard is decent, but does not support SLI as stated above. Kingstons SSDNow SSDs have had a lot of controversy over them due to the controller; I would suggest picking up a Samsung EVO. Corsair CX series power supplies are well known for dying, and causing death to other components as they're not rated for "gaming" machines. Avoid that all together, and pick up an EVGA B series.

[Senzelian]

Thanks for visiting this post 

I picked out all my parts, but I am scared to pull the trigger until I figure a few things.

Here is my part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Potna/saved/

My budget is 1300 with a little bit of overflow. 

1. Is my cheap motherboard going to affect the performance and lifespan of my computer?

a) If so, should I get an Asrock Z97 Fatal1ty Killer or the MSI Z97 Gaming 5. If you can please find me a 100-120 dollar monitor than I am willing to get a better motherboard even if the benefit is a piece of gum. 

B) Is it worth to SLI the STRIX GTX 970 with 3.5 of VRAM? If so, can my cheap motherboard take it.

2. Is the power supply that I choose a good quality and going to last me a long time. If my it is worth SLI'ing my GTX 970 STRIX in the         future. If so can you please suggest me a more powerful power supply.

3. By keeping my CPU colder, will my aftermarket cooler going to make my machine last longer

4. I know I said this already but will this computer last me a long time.  

5. If I go with the Asrock Z97 Fatal1ty Killer will the preinstalled 8.1 be a problem when I put windows 10 in.

Let's tackle your questions properly:

1. No, not in this case. You want to use a locked Intel i5 CPU, so a Z97M wouldn't make sense. I recommend a H97 or H87 motherboard. Those are cheaper and deliver the same performance. I think AsRock has the same motherboard with an H97 chipset which is a few bucks cheaper.

If you would use an unlocked CPU like an i5-4690k (k = unlocked) I would recommend a better motherboard, but you don't. So it's definitly fine.

 

2. The power supply you chose isn't bad, but not made for gaming rigs and it has stability issues. I'll reommend this one instead: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10600kr See what jimakos234 posted below. He is right and you should consider a SeaSonic S12II or EVGA B2 750 instead.

 

3. If your CPU runs at a lower temperature it will usually increase its life span. But its not that much that its actually going to matter. You would be fine with the stock cooler that comes included with the CPU, but the 212 Evo is a nice and inexpensive choice.

 

4. Depends on what you think is a "long time". The computer will probably last easily 10-20 years if you take good care of it. Is it "futureproof"? I don't know. You should be fine playing with it on 1080p for the next 2-3 years. Then you'll most likely need a new graphics card.

 

5. I'm not sure what you mean with that. But if I understand you correctly it shouldn't be a problem.

A quick side note:

You should get a different SSD. The V300 has performance issues since they changed the memory chips.

I recommend the new Adata SP550 https://pcpartpicker.com/part/a-data-internal-hard-drive-asp550ss3120gmc

For it's price it performs fantastic.

[jimakos234]

 The power supply you chose isn't bad, but not made for gaming rigs and it has stability issues. I'll reommend this one instead: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10600kr

that psu is pretty much on the same level as the cx.

The seasonic S12II 520w would be the wisest choice on the cheap.(Or the EVGA B2 750 around 50$ after MIR)

[Senzelian]

that psu is pretty much on the same level as the cx.

The seasonic S12II 520w would be the wisest choice on the cheap.(Or the EVGA B2 750 around 50$ after MIR)

Next time send me a source to why it is just as bad as the CX, so I can correct my post a bit quicker...

I had to search for it myself. Thanks to shilka's topics on the overclock.net forums I was at least able to easily find something.

[Atmos]

Let's tackle your questions properly:

1. No, not in this case. You want to use a locked Intel i5 CPU, so a Z97M wouldn't make sense. I recommend a H97 or H87 motherboard. Those are cheaper and deliver the same performance. I think AsRock has the same motherboard with an H97 chipset which is a few bucks cheaper.

If you would use an unlocked CPU like an i5-4690k (k = unlocked) I would recommend a better motherboard, but you don't. So it's definitly fine.

 

2. The power supply you chose isn't bad, but not made for gaming rigs and it has stability issues. I'll reommend this one instead: https://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-100b10600kr See what jimakos234 posted below. He is right and you should consider a SeaSonic S12II or EVGA B2 750 instead.

 

3. If your CPU runs at a lower temperature it will usually increase its life span. But its not that much that its actually going to matter. You would be fine with the stock cooler that comes included with the CPU, but the 212 Evo is a nice and inexpensive choice.

 

4. Depends on what you think is a "long time". The computer will probably last easily 10-20 years if you take good care of it. Is it "futureproof"? I don't know. You should be fine playing with it on 1080p for the next 2-3 years. Then you'll most likely need a new graphics card.

 

5. I'm not sure what you mean with that. But if I understand you correctly it shouldn't be a problem.

A quick side note:

You should get a different SSD. The V300 has performance issues since they changed the memory chips.

I recommend the new Adata SP550 https://pcpartpicker.com/part/a-data-internal-hard-drive-asp550ss3120gmc

For it's price it performs fantastic.

 

They actually swapped back to the original nand a month or so after launch, after the massive backlash. It's a fine ssd, the only reason now not to buy one is out of ethics. I quote Tek Syndicate here, 

[Prysin]

MSI gaming 5 is a solid mobo

if your playing at 1080p its worth SLI'ing 

 

get a different SSD that is one of the worst ones

intel 750/530

crucial BX/MX

samsung evo/evo pros

OCZ ARC100 (This is also the AMD Radeon R7. Just a difference sticker on the SSD)

OCZ Trion100

 

Those are damn nice SSDs, especially the ARC100 are very good. Bit slower then the 850Evo (around 500 read, 450-475 write) but they make up for this in durability.

Kitguru did a test of 5 ARC100s, writing data continuously for i think it was 6+ months.

the ARC100 is rated at 22TB "lifespan" of written data... Kitgurus test showed that the lifespan of their 5 SSDs ranged between 230 and 620TB before they died... that is 10-30 times as much as OCZ promises!!!!

[Pugnat]

 Thanks, you guys are a life saver. I have changed out my PSU, video card, and SSD.  https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Potna/saved/

When I said "will it last for a long time" I meant both lifespan and future proof. Let me explain.

-After three years, the r9 390 won't be fast anymore, so I will crossfire them. Will it last long enough till the time I will need to crossfire them than last another 3 years of quality  gaming?

-If I do crossfire I will probably need a more powerful PSU because the then the system might 753 watts at max. So is it worth buying a better PSU now. 

-Is even setting up 2 r9 390 cards in Crossfire worth it. 

[Pugnat]

 

 

 

So you are saying that the ARC 100 is faster but doesn't last long, and the Samsung EVO is a good choice because it last longer even though it is slightly slower.

Thanks for telling me. I am not being hostile; I just had to think about it a little bit. 

[Godlygamer23]

So you are saying that the ARC 100 is faster but doesn't last long, and the Samsung EVO is a good choice because it last longer even though it is slightly slower.

Thanks for telling me. I am not being hostile; I just had to think about it a little bit. 

He stated that they do last a long time.

Edited October 11, 2015 by Godlygamer23

[Prysin]

So you are saying that the ARC 100 is faster but doesn't last long, and the Samsung EVO is a good choice because it last longer even though it is slightly slower.

Thanks for telling me. I am not being hostile; I just had to think about it a little bit. 

no, opposite.

 

850 is faster, and lasts long (do not know how long. nobody has done such a test with these drives it seems)

ARC100 is slower, but lasts a damn long time

[Prysin]

 Thanks, you guys are a life saver. I have changed out my PSU, video card, and SSD.  https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Potna/saved/

When I said "will it last for a long time" I meant both lifespan and future proof. Let me explain.

-After three years, the r9 390 won't be fast anymore, so I will crossfire them. Will it last long enough till the time I will need to crossfire them than last another 3 years of quality  gaming?

-If I do crossfire I will probably need a more powerful PSU because the then the system might 753 watts at max. So is it worth buying a better PSU now. 

-Is even setting up 2 r9 390 cards in Crossfire worth it. 

R9 390 in crossfire would be really strong. I would however suggest you try get a R9 390X. then get another R9 390X later on.

 

It is always better to have a stronger GPU core, even if you have two.

A 390X is slightly stronger (~10%) then a 390, but it costs a bit more (100 USD)

[Senzelian]

They actually swapped back to the original nand a month or so after launch, after the massive backlash. It's a fine ssd, the only reason now not to buy one is out of ethics. I quote Tek Syndicate here,

Okay, interesting. But how do you know that you get one with original nand? Kingston has probably still some of those shitty SSDs lying around an d wants to sell them.

[Prysin]

They actually swapped back to the original nand a month or so after launch, after the massive backlash. It's a fine ssd, the only reason now not to buy one is out of ethics. I quote Tek Syndicate here, 

 

 

I got a V300....

They SUCK at write speeds, and read speeds isnt THAT good either when compared to a 850 Evo

 

@Senzelian

They are still bottom of the barrell. If you want a cheap ass SSD, get a OCZ ARC100 or Trion100

[Atmos]

Okay, interesting. But how do you know that you get one with original nand? Kingston has probably still some of those shitty SSDs lying around an d wants to sell them.

Kingston most likely doesn't have anymore, as they did this more than a year ago. The odds of you getting a crap one are very low, unless you go out to some shitty online store and buy back stock trying to cheap out a few bucks.

[Atmos]

I got a V300....

They SUCK at write speeds, and read speeds isnt THAT good either when compared to a 850 Evo

@Senzelian

They are still bottom of the barrell. If you want a cheap ass SSD, get a OCZ ARC100 or Trion100

First off, you can't compare a Sata ssd to a ram disk. Apples and oranges mate. Secondly, the Evo is far more expensive. Thirdly, when did you purchase your v300,because the graphs you linked appear to be for one with their gimped nand.

[Senzelian]

@Senzelian

They are still bottom of the barrell. If you want a cheap ass SSD, get a OCZ ARC100 or Trion100

Do you mean the V300 or the SP550?

Cause the SP550 is price to performance wise quite a bit better than any of the OCZ drives.

 

First off, you can't compare a Sata ssd to a ram disk. Apples and oranges mate. Secondly, the Evo is far more expensive. Thirdly, when did you purchase your v300,because the graphs you linked appear to be for one with their gimped nand.

Also he compared a 500GB 850 vs a 120GB V300...  :rolleyes:

[Prysin]

First off, you can't compare a Sata ssd to a ram disk. Apples and oranges mate. Secondly, the Evo is far more expensive. Thirdly, when did you purchase your v300,because the graphs you linked appear to be for one with their gimped nand.

Also, i compared it with the ramdisk, just for shits and giggles...

The fact that the write speeds on my 5TB WD GREEN drive is better then that of the V300 is a testament to how terrible it is.

 

As for the V300, i bought it around easter this year during a sale. it performs worse then my old Intel 530 SSD which i bought with my PC, 2,5-3 years ago.........