Is this build good?

[suchamoneypit]

Helping a friend build a PC, this is what we got so far http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cddrFT

 

I just wanted some input on whether the setup is good and any suggestions/comments. Its supposed to be good enough to put in a second R9 390 to crossfire and play games like battlefront, BF4, wargame:red dragon, ect. His budget is $1400, its currently around $1410 but he cant go any higher.

[Kirky2k15]

Any reason your not considering skylake/z170?

 

Edit not that much more in the grand scheme of things:

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Rr3NCJ

[AresKrieger]

Looks good to me

[Kobathor]

Shit. You don't need that processor, unless you're doing something like heavy video editing. Get something like an i5 4690k or a 6600k.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RQTZYJ

[suchamoneypit]

Any reason your not considering skylake/z170?

cost, all the other stuff like the MB and RAM made it too difficult to fit a decent GPU in the budget.

[19_blackie_73]

I'd spent some more money on the ssd and get a 250ish gb ssd. but well balanced built:)

EDIT: A seagate barracuda or wd blue would do also a good job

[suchamoneypit]

Shit. You don't need that processor, unless you're doing something like heavy video editing. Get something like an i5 4690k or a 6600k.

He wanted to get a high end CPU that wouldn't have to upgrade for a while.

[Kobathor]

He wanted to get a high end CPU that wouldn't have to upgrade for a while.

If you go with a 6600k you won't need to upgrade for a while. i7 is not for regular gamers, just get an i5. Seriously.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RQTZYJ I knocked $120 off of this build.

[AresKrieger]

He wanted to get a high end CPU that wouldn't have to upgrade for a while.

Honestly this build is my PC with a smaller ssd, and a 390 instead of a 970, and my build is great to me so I'd say go for it, the i7 may be over the top but it makes the machine have pep when multi tasking

[Kirky2k15]

BOOM: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/n7kHyc

 

Better SSD as well

[Kobathor]

BOOM: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/n7kHyc

 

Better SSD as well

USE THIS ONE ^^^^

[Curufinwe_wins]

Skylake is a massive waste of money.

 

@suchamoneypit This is a massively optimized build that has all the same if not more features and is MUCH cheaper while providing arguably a better experience.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($326.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.89 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Asus Z97-E/USB3.1 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($122.89 @ OutletPC) 

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($38.45 @ Amazon) 

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  ($313.98 @ Newegg) 

Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: Rosewill 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 

Other: Windows 10/8.1 From Reddit (Microsoft software swap) ($50.00)

Total: $1287.11

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-09 11:23 EDT-0400

 

There is still room to swap stuff out if you feel you ABSOLUTELY have to use one of your parts instead, but I wouldn't recommend most of the original choices.

 

And no matter what you do. DONT BUY A WD DRIVE, they are so insanely overpriced. Hitachi/HGST are literally just as good if not better, for in this case half nearly the cost.

[Curufinwe_wins]

USE THIS ONE ^^^^

I knocked another 100 dollars off while having again much better storage because skylake is a MASSIVE WASTE OF MONEY.

[suchamoneypit]

 

Skylake is a massive waste of money.

 

@suchamoneypit This is a massively optimized build that has all the same if not more features and is MUCH cheaper while providing arguably a better experience.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($326.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.89 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Asus Z97-E/USB3.1 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($122.89 @ OutletPC) 

Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Crucial BX100 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 

Storage: Hitachi Deskstar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($38.45 @ Amazon) 

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  ($313.98 @ Newegg) 

Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: Rosewill 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Newegg) 

Monitor: AOC i2267Fw 60Hz 22.0" Monitor  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 

Other: Windows 10/8.1 From Reddit (Microsoft software swap) ($50.00)

Total: $1287.11

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-10-09 11:23 EDT-0400

 

There is still room to swap stuff out if you feel you ABSOLUTELY have to use one of your parts instead, but I wouldn't recommend most of the original choices.

 

And no matter what you do. DONT BUY A WD DRIVE, they are so insanely overpriced.

 

why are you against skylake? I get their reason for recommending it over my current setup, but for what reasons would you be against it?

[suchamoneypit]

I knocked another 100 dollars off while having again much better storage because skylake is a MASSIVE WASTE OF MONEY.

but what about the PSU, 650W? I dont think thats enough to run a 4790k and 2x 390s in crossfire

[Kobathor]

I knocked another 100 dollars off while having again much better storage because skylake is a MASSIVE WASTE OF MONEY.

How is it a massive waste of money? Better performance and more features?

[Curufinwe_wins]

but what about the PSU, 650W? I dont think thats enough to run a 4790k and 2x 390s in crossfire

If he is going to overclock that 4790k even an 850W won't be enough for a 4790k and 2x 390 (and before anyone tells me otherwise, we literally just had a thread here where the exact case was tripping his 850W psu). So you'd have to upgrade to a 1k or so. This is what I'd recommend http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-rm1000 , but again before you do that it is a massive money waste.

 

Also that case you choose would not have handled it at ALL let alone without thermal throttling issues (it's airflow is terrible and you need alot of airflow with 550W of gpu's).

For the define S and basically all other cases you will need to buy more fans as well or you will thermal throttle. A lot.

 

 

about skylake... You pay 25-40% more between ram/motherboard/cpu for the same feature set (at this budget you are never buying a pcie ssd.) for less than 5% a performance increase. It's an absolutely HORRIBLE investment. X99 makes more sense at skylake prices.

[Curufinwe_wins]

How is it a massive waste of money? Better performance and more features?

Marginally better performance (literally 5% at BEST i7 to i7) and an irrelevant change in feature set (unless you plan on buying a pcie SSD, which at a budget like this you are not. But you can anyways with z97). For 20-40% more in ram/motherboard/cpu. 

[suchamoneypit]

Thanks for all the advice and input everyone