What do you class as high end for GPU's?

[Mikjul]

Everyone seems to have different opinions on this subject.

 

Where people will say GTX 970-TITAN X & R9 390 to Fury X.

 

 

Well for me R9 370-390X is the mid range from AMD and Fury NANO-Fury X being high end.

 

GTX 960-970 being mid range from Nvidia and 980-TITAN X being high end.

 

 

 

[GM_Peka]

I consider x70 class series of cards high end, they are close to the top, while being a lot cheaper

Obviously that leaves x60 for mid, and x50 for entry.

[Mikjul]

I consider x70 class series of cards high end, they are close to the top, while being a lot cheaper

Bring in resolution choices, 1440p being the most popular after FHD.

[GM_Peka]

Bring in resolution choices, 1440p being the most popular after FHD.

Well, what's resolution got to do with anything? a GTX 980 is a high end sku on 1080p, and it is 1440p aswell, although one could argue 980 is too much for 1080p (I wouldn't though)

[Mikjul]

Well, what's resolution got to do with anything? a GTX 980 is a high end sku on 1080p, and it is 1440p aswell, although one could argue 980 is too much for 1080p (I wouldn't though)

This is where the big boys separate though, for most games a 970 is good until you throw in games like Witcher 3 at 1440p and settings start to really come down.

 

4K 980Ti/TITAN X Fury/X really take the cake here.

[DarkBlade2117]

970-980

390-Fury

[jc980]

Pretty much this:

NVidia: GTX 970-980ti

AMD: R9 390-Fury X

[arvark]

Everyone seems to have different opinions on this subject.

 

Where people will say GTX 970-TITAN X & R9 390 to Fury X.

 

 

Well for me R9 370-390X is the mid range from AMD and Fury NANO-Fury X being high end.

 

GTX 960-970 being mid range from Nvidia and 980-TITAN X being high end.

You do realize that the GTX 970 is a cut down 980, so how can they be in different classes? It may be in price, but in performance they're very close.

[Mikjul]

You do realize that the GTX 970 is a cut down 980, so how can they be in different classes? It may be in price, but in performance they're very close.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-review/8

 

Watch as the resolution changes too.

 

Now consider there are 2 factory Oc cards pitted vs a reference 980 here, and all of these cards OC.

 

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/09/19/nvidia-geforce-gtx-970-review/9

[arvark]

Sure, in Skyrim there is quite a difference, in Crysis, there's still a difference, but, it's normal, it's a cut down 980, so performance will be lower, but it's still very close and IMO they're both high end.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Only 980 and 980ti/titan x and the fury lineup because they are the only cards that by themselves can push modern demanding titles 1440p at decently high setting above 60 fps.

All other cards are 1080p only imho and by definition that prevents them from being high end because 1080p isn't close to high end anymore.

@970 vs 980 there is a massive performance difference in demanding titles, 15-20%. This is contrary to the 390 vs 390x, fury vs fury x and 980ti vs titan x that seem to differ at maximum 5%.

[Prysin]

GTX 950 / Radeon R7 270X -> Casual gamer

GTX 960 / Radeon R9 380 -> Mainstream

GTX 970 / Radeon R9 390 -> Hardcore gamer

GTX 980 / Radeon R9 390X / Radeon R9 Fury -> High end

GTX 980Ti, GTX Titan X, Radeon R9 Fury X, Radeon R9 295x2 etc -> enthusiast

[Nena Trinity]

Anything over R9 280X or 380 4GB... Which is 290, 290X, 970, 390 or higher! :3

[Hieb]

For me what I call mid-range is the sweetspot of GPUs, where you get really good price to performance ratio... these are usually the $120 - 250 cards. What I call high end are any above this point where you're paying a large price premium and don't get as much performance per dollar spent. And low end I consider basically anything that's under ~$100.

[Humbug]

R9 290 / 970 and upwards

Although it's not really important

[Lethal Seraph]

A step down from the enthusiast card.

[Altracomp]

GTX 950 / Radeon R7 270X -> Casual gamer

GTX 960 / Radeon R9 380 -> Mainstream

GTX 970 / Radeon R9 390 -> Hardcore gamer

GTX 980 / Radeon R9 390X / Radeon R9 Fury -> High end

GTX 980Ti, GTX Titan X, Radeon R9 Fury X, Radeon R9 295x2 etc -> enthusiast

 

Right on the money... Agreed.

[Prysin]

For me what I call mid-range is the sweetspot of GPUs, where you get really good price to performance ratio... these are usually the $120 - 250 cards. What I call high end are any above this point where you're paying a large price premium and don't get as much performance per dollar spent. And low end I consider basically anything that's under ~$100.

120 USD is not a sweetspot, it is a "get this shit running now" spot...

 

classifying a 750Ti as "much as a sweetspot" as a good R9 380 is well, you're pushing it a bit there mate...

 

180-250 on the other hand, that is a more "reasonable" range...

[Hieb]

120 USD is not a sweetspot, it is a "get this shit running now" spot...

 

classifying a 750Ti as "much as a sweetspot" as a good R9 380 is well, you're pushing it a bit there mate...

 

180-250 on the other hand, that is a more "reasonable" range...

 

GTX 750 Ti sells for around $110 USD, R9 380 sells for around $195 USD.

 

77% increase to price. Meanwhile here are the numbers I'm pulling from AnandTech's benches, comparing to R9 280X since it performs about the same as the R9 380 (and I can't directly compare 750 Ti to 380 in their bench section since the cards aren't from the same year). I've opted for just the mainstream games' benchmarks. The rest that I've excluded showed similar results to these, while Company of Heroes strongly favoured the AMD card (3x the framerate)... so it didn't seem fair to include in a comparison of price to performance.

Battlefield 4 @ 1920x1080

GTX 750 Ti - 48 FPS

R9 280X - 83.8 FPS

 

Bioshock Infinite @ 1920x1080

GTX 750 Ti - 60.8 FPS

R9 280X - 98.8 FPS

 

Crysis 3 @ 1920x1080

GTX 750 Ti - 36.2 FPS

R9 280X - 61.2 FPS

 

Metro Last Light @ 1920x1080

GTX 750 Ti - 30.3 FPS

R9 280X - 54.4 FPS

 

TOTAL FPS:

GTX 750 TI - 175.3

R9 280X - 298.2

 

GTX 750 Ti gets 1.59 FPS per dollar. R9 280X/380 (not the same card, but similar performance and using the 380 pricing) gets 1.52 FPS per dollar.

 

So on average the R9 280X performed 70% better, while costing 77% more. Now with the typical price fluctuations, rebates, and different performance outcomes from different settings (for example in tests that exclude anti-aliasing, the delta would shrink somewhat), there's a margin for error... but I'm comfortable saying that a GTX 750 Ti offers similar FPS per dollar (and therefore similar value) to an R9 380... just depends how much you want to spend

 

Now if you compare to a higher end card you'll see what I mean in terms of value diminishing. Here I'm comparing R9 285 (within 5% of the R9 380) to the R9 390X:

R9 380 retails at around $195 USD, R9 390X retails at around $420. So that's about a 115% price increase.

 

Battlefield 4 @ 1920x1080

R9 380 - 45.8 FPS

R9 390X - 80 FPS

 

Crysis 3 @ 1920x1080

R9 380 - 56.2

R9 390X - 89.6

 

Far Cry 4 @ 1920x1080

R9 380 - 47.7

R9 390X - 74.3

 

GTA V @ 1920x1080

R9 380 - 34.6

R9 390X - 56.8

 

TOTAL FPS

R9 380 - 184.3

R9 390X - 300

 

*also the difference between BF4 framerate in the R9 280X and R9 285 is so large because the 280X was using the high preset while the 285 test used ultra preset

 

R9 380 gets 0.94 FPS per dollar. The R9 390X gets 0.71 FPS per dollar.

 

So this is what I mean... I'd consider both the GTX 750 Ti and R9 380 'mid-range', because they both offer similar value and are both mainstream cards. The price and performance of cards in the ~$110-250 range scale pretty linearly. Whereas when you get into the range of the R9 390 or GTX 970 and beyond you're no longer getting as good performance relative to the money invested.

[MEC-777]

Anything below 950 / 370 - Low end.

950 / 370 - Casual mainstream, budget gaming.

960 / 380 - Midrange.

970 / 390, 390x - High end.

980, 980Ti, TX / R9 Nano, Fury, Fury X - Enthusiast high end.

 

That's more or less the way I see it.

[KarateHottie93]

x70 and their AMD counterparts are always high end at launch. As time goes by their status drops lower and lower. That is pretty much like any piece of tech. The 970 and 390 are still viable solutions for a high end build, it just depends on what you play at. When I think "mid range", I think 950, 960, 370, and 380.

[Prysin]

GTX 750 Ti sells for around $110 USD, R9 380 sells for around $195 USD.

 

77% increase to price. Meanwhile here are the numbers I'm pulling from AnandTech's benches, comparing to R9 280X since it performs about the same as the R9 380 (and I can't directly compare 750 Ti to 380 in their bench section since the cards aren't from the same year). I've opted for just the mainstream games' benchmarks. The rest that I've excluded showed similar results to these, while Company of Heroes strongly favoured the AMD card (3x the framerate)... so it didn't seem fair to include in a comparison of price to performance.

Battlefield 4 @ 1920x1080

GTX 750 Ti - 48 FPS

R9 280X - 83.8 FPS

 

Bioshock Infinite @ 1920x1080

GTX 750 Ti - 60.8 FPS

R9 280X - 98.8 FPS

 

Crysis 3 @ 1920x1080

GTX 750 Ti - 36.2 FPS

R9 280X - 61.2 FPS

 

Metro Last Light @ 1920x1080

GTX 750 Ti - 30.3 FPS

R9 280X - 54.4 FPS

 

TOTAL FPS:

GTX 750 TI - 175.3

R9 280X - 298.2

 

GTX 750 Ti gets 1.59 FPS per dollar. R9 280X/380 (not the same card, but similar performance and using the 380 pricing) gets 1.52 FPS per dollar.

 

So on average the R9 280X performed 70% better, while costing 77% more. Now with the typical price fluctuations, rebates, and different performance outcomes from different settings (for example in tests that exclude anti-aliasing, the delta would shrink somewhat), there's a margin for error... but I'm comfortable saying that a GTX 750 Ti offers similar FPS per dollar (and therefore similar value) to an R9 380... just depends how much you want to spend

 

Now if you compare to a higher end card you'll see what I mean in terms of value diminishing. Here I'm comparing R9 285 (within 5% of the R9 380) to the R9 390X:

R9 380 retails at around $195 USD, R9 390X retails at around $420. So that's about a 115% price increase.

 

Battlefield 4 @ 1920x1080

R9 380 - 45.8 FPS

R9 390X - 80 FPS

 

Crysis 3 @ 1920x1080

R9 380 - 56.2

R9 390X - 89.6

 

Far Cry 4 @ 1920x1080

R9 380 - 47.7

R9 390X - 74.3

 

GTA V @ 1920x1080

R9 380 - 34.6

R9 390X - 56.8

 

TOTAL FPS

R9 380 - 184.3

R9 390X - 300

 

*also the difference between BF4 framerate in the R9 280X and R9 285 is so large because the 280X was using the high preset while the 285 test used ultra preset

 

R9 380 gets 0.94 FPS per dollar. The R9 390X gets 0.71 FPS per dollar.

 

So this is what I mean... I'd consider both the GTX 750 Ti and R9 380 'mid-range', because they both offer similar value and are both mainstream cards. The price and performance of cards in the ~$110-250 range scale pretty linearly. Whereas when you get into the range of the R9 390 or GTX 970 and beyond you're no longer getting as good performance relative to the money invested.

the horsepower needed to get nearly twice the FPS, is more then "twice the horsepower".... so performance pr dollar isnt quite a linear metric here. Not to mention, games favoring one or the other vendor would shift things dramatically

[SteveGrabowski0]

I always think of HD 7770 as the entry level. Lots of people still game on those and you can play AAA games at 30 fps on one by turning down settings. Once you start going below that into the R7 240 or GT 630 then you're just talking basically Minecraft and NES emulators. I'd consider R9 270 a strong midrange card, R9 380 / GTX 960 as upper midrange, GTX 970/R9 290/R9 390 as lower high end, GTX 980 as solid high end, GTX 980 Ti / R9 Fury X as ultra high end, and then Titan X as a straight halo product. If you're comparing to LTT posters then that skews things significantly since so many people run overclocked CPUs and multi-GPU setups, but overall I consider R9 290 or better as pretty high end.

[juretrn]

Anything above 350€.

[Megahurt]

The 970 and 390 are right between mid and high end, they're expensive, but still very good performance per dollar, and with the 970 being the most used card on steam, I don't think you can really call high end or enthusiast.