Time to upgrade my I7 920 4,3 GHz?

[Intelfreak]

Hey im new to this forum and sorry English is not my strong side so i hope you all will put up whit it.

 

Full system spec.

Core i7 920 @ 4,3 Ghz 

ThermalRight Ultra 120 eXtreme cpu cooler 

ASUS Rampage II Extreme ROG motherboard

12 GB DDR3 memory Corsair 1600 MHz

Samsung WriteMaster SH-S223F DVD-drive

Crusial M4 64 GB SSD for OS only

SAMSUNG EVO 250 GB SSD for games

2 x WD Velociraptor 150 GB 10000 RPM in raid 0 for games 

WD Caviar Black 1 TB

WD AV-GP 2 TB

2 x Zotac GTX 970 i sli

Thermaltake ToughPower 1500 Watt PSU

Antec Twelve Hundred case

Windows 10 PRO 64 bit

 

I got an old first gen I7 920 running 4,3 GHz aircooled and a pair of GTX 970 in sli and hits over 16000 in 3Dmark Firestrike. But the CPU is getting old now so im thinking going skylake I7 6700K or X99/i7 5820k setup.So what to do upgrade or just keep the old I7 920 a while longer?

 

Its for gamming and i mostly have the same CPU for years thats why im going for the strongests CPU i can get whit what i can aford.

 

[Tim Drake]

If it's only for gaming, I can't really justify it considering how high you have it clocked.

 

You could go for an i5 4690k if you REALLY want to upgrade.

[stealth80]

If you have use for the cores go X99, otherwise I would just add another SSD and stick for now until Skylake-E. This coming from m e that went from an i7 860, to i7 3770K to a 4790k lol

[Daniel123dk]

Hey im new to this forum and sorry English is not my strong side so i hope you all will put up whit it.

 

Full system spec.

Core i7 920 @ 4,3 Ghz 

ThermalRight Ultra 120 eXtreme cpu cooler 

ASUS Rampage II Extreme ROG motherboard

12 GB DDR3 memory Corsair 1600 MHz

Samsung WriteMaster SH-S223F DVD-drive

Crusial M4 64 GB SSD for OS only

SAMSUNG EVO 250 GB SSD for games

2 x WD Velociraptor 150 GB 10000 RPM in raid 0 for games 

WD Caviar Black 1 TB

WD AV-GP 2 TB

2 x Zotac GTX 970 i sli

Thermaltake ToughPower 1500 Watt PSU

Antec Twelve Hundred case

Windows 10 PRO 64 bit

 

I got an old first gen I7 920 running 4,3 GHz aircooled and a pair of GTX 970 in sli and hits over 16000 in 3Dmark Firestrike. But the CPU is getting old now so im thinking going skylake I7 6700K or X99/i7 5820k setup.So what to do upgrade or just keep the old I7 920 a while longer?

 

Its for gamming and i mostly have the same CPU for years thats why im going for the strongests CPU i can get whit what i can aford.

 

Well, compared to my 4690k i dont really think the difference is THAT big that its worth an upgrade. Take a look at my system. Ive been running 3xTitanx's (2 of those were my friends) and 2xTitanx's on his i7-990x, and the difference wasnt even there!

 

You shouldnt upgrade, thats what im telling you

[Curufinwe_wins]

Both will help quite a bit in sli unless running 4k.

5820k can overclock to 4.4-4.5 on 1.3 with most of the recent batches, and 6700k can hit 4.6-4.8 on 1.4.

5820k will be about 50% stronger single core. (Try cinebench r15 and let us know. At 4.5 I'm looking around 150-160 single core)

6700k at stock is also around 160 single core, and at 4.8 people have gotten as high as 1050 on multicore.

[Master Disaster]

Your score is almost identical to the score my 4770K used to get with twin MSI 970s, certainly within the margin of error. Now i've got a Skylake it really bumps up the physics score which helps with the overall score but its still not that much higher.

 

Honestly, if your looking for a performance upgrade solely for gaming then nope, theres nothing to be gained by upgrading. If however you want to ditch an acient platform and upgrade for things like USB 3, PCIe Gen 3, DDR4, M.2, Sata Express, UEFI, Fastboot support and all the other goodies switching to a Haswell, Skylake or Haswell E would bring then yes, its time to upgrade your system.

 

I went from Haswell to Skylake, not because I'm dumb and don't read or didn't understand what i was doing but because its likely to be the last full on hardcore gaming system I ever buy, it saw very little performance bump however it does allow me to stay on the right side of technology for a few years, by that time I'll be knocking on the door of 40 and certainly won't be buying £2000 gaming machines. Sometimes the upgrade is not for the obvious reasons and raw CPU performance isn't everything you should think about, having a decent SSD plugged into a decent interface will provide you with more of a performance bump than any CPU upgrade ever will.

[Curufinwe_wins]

Well, compared to my 4690k i dont really think the difference is THAT big that its worth an upgrade. Take a look at my system. Ive been running 3xTitanx's (2 of those were my friends) and 2xTitanx's on his i7-990x, and the difference wasnt even there!

You shouldnt upgrade, thats what im telling you

That depends on resolution, and also 60hz vs 144 Hz.

4k or any 60Hz no difference will be seen.

Anything else. HUGE difference.

Also the 990x is a hex core. Just saying.

[Daniel123dk]

That depends on resolution, and also 60hz vs 144 Hz.

4k or any 60Hz no difference will be seen.

Anything else. HUGE difference.

Also the 990x is a hex core. Just saying.

Well, from what i know, the performance difference from a stock 990x to a 4.3ghz 920 shouldn't be That much

[Redicat]

Not worth upgrade unless you pick a cpu with extra cores.

 

Oh and classic shell for Windows 10 will replace the win10 start?

[Daniel123dk]

Not worth upgrade unless you pick a cpu with extra cores.

 

Oh and classic shell for Windows 10 will replace the win10 start?

http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3449 there you go

[Curufinwe_wins]

Well, from what i know, the performance difference from a stock 990x to a 4.3ghz 920 shouldn't be That much

That depends on the ability of the cpu to keep up with sli draw calls. It's a small thing really but it actually has a pretty notable impact with Nehalem cpus.

And technically the 990x is actually a more advanced core than the 920 anyways. (990x is gulftown, the 32nm shrink of the 45nm Nehalem that is the 920.)

[Intelfreak]

So in gennerel i shut just keep the old CPU. Dam for how long can this old sucker last. i had it for over 6 years now and overclokket for about 3 years now (at the beginnning at 3,8 GHz, but over time up to 4,3 GHz). And it just wont die from oc.

 

I run games in 1920 x 1200 resolution thats fine for me. I already got USB 3.0 and Sata 3 whit this controller: https://www.asus.com/Motherboard-Accessories/U3S6/

 

DDR4, UEFI and so on is not importen for me. I dont need 6 cores as of now, since games not really uses 6 cores yet. I dont video converte or something like that where more cores would come in handy. For now 4 cores and 8 threads whit HT is alright for me.

[Daniel123dk]

That depends on the ability of the cpu to keep up with sli draw calls. It's a small thing really but it actually has a pretty notable impact with Nehalem cpus.

And technically the 990x is actually a more advanced core than the 920 anyways. (990x is gulftown, the 32nm shrink of the 45nm Nehalem that is the 920.)

Still, i dont think it makes THAT much difference ;-)

[Curufinwe_wins]

Still, i dont think it makes THAT much difference ;-)

I mean it's the difference between maxing something out at say 70 fps instead of 100. But as long as he is fine with the results it doesn't matter.

I'd upgrade just for the platform personally. (I did from mobile Sandy Bridge) but again it's all a matter of perceived worth.

[Intelfreak]

#9 Yes classic shell will replace windows 10 start menu and buttom. You can desing it as you like it.  http://www.classicshell.net/

 

[Intelfreak]

Well, compared to my 4690k i dont really think the difference is THAT big that its worth an upgrade. Take a look at my system. Ive been running 3xTitanx's (2 of those were my friends) and 2xTitanx's on his i7-990x, and the difference wasnt even there!

 

You shouldnt upgrade, thats what im telling you

 

Dejligt og se andre fra lille Danmark også kommer på andre sproget forums.

[Curufinwe_wins]

I mean here is an example....

This is compared to a 4790k with a 960! Instead of a 970 like the rest.

Note this is just one person's testing.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DmSD40aoNRIc&ved=0CB4QtwIwAWoVChMI1N_YpazHxwIVkxWSCh1zRgiF&usg=AFQjCNEQiLhmT3e5fe1gPQIj6USY2U_7_Q&sig2=4CD8QtctZT4BylH0frgODg

[Intelfreak]

So as i se it what you guys are telling me is that and upgrade would not give me that huge performence boost in games alone?

[Daniel123dk]

Dejligt og se andre fra lille Danmark også kommer på andre sproget forums.

WTF! haha hej!

[Intelfreak]

WTF! haha hej!

surprise . Og vi bor oven i købet ikke så langt fra hinanden kan jeg se, så frem du stadig bor i Fredericia. Jeg selv holder til i en "hule" i Børkop. Verden er sku lille til tider

[typographie]

So as i se it what you guys are telling me is that and upgrade would not give me that huge performence boost in games alone?

 

Most games on a 60 Hz monitor will not need a faster CPU than yours, and so most games are probably GPU-bound. So even though Haswell and Skylake are a lot faster than your i7-920, you won't see much difference.

 

If you had a video card and monitor appropriate for gaming at 120 or 144 FPS, a CPU upgrade would be easier to justify.

[Intelfreak]

Most games on a 60 Hz monitor will not need a faster CPU than yours, and so most games are probably GPU-bound. So even though Haswell and Skylake are a lot faster than your i7-920, you won't see much difference.

 

If you had a video card and monitor appropriate for gaming at 120 or 144 FPS, a CPU upgrade would be easier to justify.

That nice to now. So i keep that old I7 920 when. Its pretty amazing how well a cpu that came out for like all most 7 years ago now still can hold op in games. It is not every day we se hardware doing so well after so long time.

[typographie]

That nice to now. So i keep that old I7 920 when. Its pretty amazing how well a cpu that came out for like all most 7 years ago now still can hold op in games. It is not every day we se hardware doing so well after so long time.

 

I still had a Core i5-750 myself until a few weeks ago, when I bought a new Skylake CPU and motherboard. I could have held out longer, but I play a lot of games like Cities: Skylines and Guild Wars 2 that are incredibly CPU-bound. Differences show up occasionally in some edge cases, but in most games it's not a major difference.

[Intelfreak]

I still had a Core i5-750 myself until a few weeks ago, when I bought a new Skylake CPU and motherboard. I could have held out longer, but I play a lot of games like Cities: Skylines and Guild Wars 2 that are incredibly CPU-bound. Differences show up occasionally in some edge cases, but in most games it's not a major difference.

So a new CPU + MOBO and memory will give some performence but not so mush that money vs. more performence is worth it then?

[Curufinwe_wins]

I still had a Core i5-750 myself until a few weeks ago, when I bought a new Skylake CPU and motherboard. I could have held out longer, but I play a lot of games like Cities: Skylines and Guild Wars 2 that are incredibly CPU-bound. Differences show up occasionally in some edge cases, but in most games it's not a major difference.

As an aside, I have noticed an immediate and considerable upgrade in the snappiness of everything (non-gaming) I do having gone from my 16gb 3630qm (which spent most of its time at around 2.4-2.7) to my oc'd 5820k @4.5, and I'd be willing to bet you would as well from the 920.

I won't say you need to, but there would be absolutely no reason to regret it, and I personally having around a q6600 system, a 3630qm system, and my current full use one, definitely recommend the upgrade.