is it bad to use manual voltage all the time?

[ExcitezR]

so i have set my voltage to 1.19 volts manual and so that it wont go any higher that voltage. the reason for doing this is because with adaptive it would go way higher than 1.19v 

[ilikemacandpc]

Ehh, try and find a way so that the processor will down-volt when it is idle. 1.19 isn't extremely high, but it's certainly not low. 

[NeatSquidYT]

It's fine

[ExcitezR]

Ehh, try and find a way so that the processor will down-volt when it is idle. 1.19 isn't extremely high, but it's certainly not low. 

i did try with adaptive and the manual voltage was at 1.19 and turbo offset was at 0.001v but when i got in to windows it would automatically go to 1.219v and every now and again it would go to 1.26v

 

the CPU will downclock its self but not the voltage and its idling at 32/31/30/31C

[ExcitezR]

It's fine

do you use adaptive voltage? 

[NeatSquidYT]

do you use adaptive voltage? 

Not sure if I do now, but I used to have it on static and it was fine.

[ExcitezR]

Not sure if I do now, but I used to have it on static and it was fine.

being on a static voltage wouldn't damage my cpu would it because im running at 30-33c idle and wilst rendering a video i top out at 62c where as on auto every thing (stock) i was hitting 80-85c  

[JebKerman]

How have you tried to set up the adaptive voltage? Mine does exactly as I told it, give or take 0.001V.

 

It seems Haswells even have an absurdly low power state when the voltages on all but 1 core drop to 0.

[ExcitezR]

How have you tried to set up the adaptive voltage? Mine does exactly as I told it, give or take 0.001V.

 

It seems Haswells even have an absurdly low power state when the voltages on all but 1 core drop to 0.

i have and when i set it to 1.19v in the bios and and offset of 0.001 so it should be at 1.191v but when i got windows it was at 1.219v

 

 

[JebKerman]

-SNIP-

AHA! I think I see the problem. set "Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage" to 1.19, see if that fixes it

[ExcitezR]

AHA! I think I see the problem. set "Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage" to 1.19, see if that fixes it

so put the turbo at 1.19v and leave the cpu core offset voltage at 0.001?

[JebKerman]

so put the turbo at 1.19v and leave the cpu core offset voltage at 0.001?

Set it like this:

CPU Core Voltage = Adaptive Mode

Offset Mode Sign = +

CPU Core Voltage Offset = 0.001

Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage = 1.19

 

then "Total Adaptive Mode CPU Core Voltage" should read 1.191V

[ExcitezR]

Set it like this:

CPU Core Voltage = Adaptive Mode

Offset Mode Sign = +

CPU Core Voltage Offset = 0.001

Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage = 1.19

 

then "Total Adaptive Mode CPU Core Voltage" should read 1.191V

 

ok i did all this in the bios and applied it got in to windows and saw this (i opened ai suite to show you )

 

 

[JebKerman]

ok i did all this in the bios and applied it got in to windows and saw this (i opened ai suite to show you )

 

and so we're back to square 1 again... again, very strange, i have an ASUS motherboard too, so i can see every see every menu you have and mine is following mine exactly as set

 

EDIT: oh hang on... you've applied additional voltage to the CPU cache (possibly by accident, but it doesn't look like a BIOS setting) try putting that back to 0

[ExcitezR]

and so we're back to square 1 again... again, very strange, i have an ASUS motherboard too, so i can see every see every menu you have and mine is following mine exactly as set

 

EDIT: oh hang on... you've applied additional voltage to the CPU cache (possibly by accident, but it doesn't look like a BIOS setting) try putting that back to 0

do you mean in ai suite because in the bios its set to auto also the image that didnt load was this one just realised

 

[JebKerman]

do you mean in ai suite because in the bios its set to auto also the image that didnt load was this one just realised

yea try it in AI suite. AI suite and the ASUS bios seem to have a special relationship, I'm pretty sure that AI suite can control what the BIOS defines as "Auto"

[ExcitezR]

yea try it in AI suite. AI suite and the ASUS bios seem to have a special relationship, I'm pretty sure that AI suite can control what the BIOS defines as "Auto"

ok so i did it in ai suite and also managed to lower the manual voltage to 1.60v. it was in manual and i changed it to adaptive with ai suite and this is what i get 

 

[JebKerman]

ok so i did it in ai suite and also managed to lower the manual voltage to 1.60v. it was in manual and i changed it to adaptive with ai suite and this is what i get 

Well I think I've been defeated then, my only assumption is that the motherboard itself is somehow adding that extra voltage, and isn't taking "no" for an answer.

[ExcitezR]

Well I think I've been defeated then, my only assumption is that the motherboard itself is somehow adding that extra voltage, and isn't taking "no" for an answer.

i think your right well thanks for the help 

[ExcitezR]

yea try it in AI suite. AI suite and the ASUS bios seem to have a special relationship, I'm pretty sure that AI suite can control what the BIOS defines as "Auto"

hey a though just came to mind do you think it could be the load line calibration my board auto set it to level 8 out of 9 how would this change if i lowered it?

 

[Nav1tech]

Mine does the same thing. I have to use the lowerst voltage value on HWmonitor then a -offset to reach target.

 

CPU Core Voltage = Adaptive Mode

Offset Mode Sign =  -

CPU Core Voltage Offset = 0.029

Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage = 1.219

[JebKerman]

hey a though just came to mind do you think it could be the load line calibration my board auto set it to level 8 out of 9 how would this change if i lowered it?

 

That should make a difference, play around with it.

[ExcitezR]

 

Mine does the same thing. I have to use the lowerst voltage value on HWmonitor then a -offset to reach target.

 

CPU Core Voltage = Adaptive Mode

Offset Mode Sign =  -

CPU Core Voltage Offset = 0.029

Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage = 1.219

 

what does the negative offset mode do? 

[ExcitezR]

 

Mine does the same thing. I have to use the lowerst voltage value on HWmonitor then a -offset to reach target.

 

CPU Core Voltage = Adaptive Mode

Offset Mode Sign =  -

CPU Core Voltage Offset = 0.029

Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage = 1.219

 

thanks you got it to work and i have been playing around with it to day and i have now got it down to 1.160V i have a question for both of you what is the IA voltage on the CPU because it says mine is at 3.236V where as it didnt earlier my temps are low rendering i hit a max of 64C 

That should make a difference, play around with it.

[Nav1tech]

thanks you got it to work and i have been playing around with it to day and i have now got it down to 1.160V i have a question for both of you what is the IA voltage on the CPU because it says mine is at 3.236V where as it didnt earlier my temps are low rendering i hit a max of 64C 

 

 

Same thing happened with mine. Never founds a straight answer besides it being a internal sensor reading. From what i found several other people never had any issues with the readings.

 

On my setup the temp was clearly lower with the -offset due to the lower voltage.