So.. Skylake is here. But is the price premium worth it?

[keepcalmcarryon]

I'd say the price is worth it for the CPU, but paying for more expensive ram and new motherboard is not.

[ryanmmax]

Would you buy a computer with DDR2? In 2009 you would have, now you would never. In 3 years it will probably be the same with DDR3 vs DDR4, and you will kick yourself for not getting DDR4

[dizmo]

Yeah it really is sad. Skylake would have been nice to have as a bit more of a leap but the performance improvement was quite disappointing to me..

 

Ah, if it gets the 20 fps boost that the charts showed with higher speed memory I'd say that's pretty awesome.

It's kind of foolish to expect much more of a boost when they're pushed to release a new chip every single year.

[azurezeed]

In my opinion the THIRD Tock for 14nm will be much more interesting than skylake itself.

[ryanmmax]

In my opinion the THIRD Tock for 14nm will be much more interesting than skylake itself.

why? Seems like every year people say "this update was ok, but the next one will be better"

If you jump 3 generations of coarse it will be more interesting...

[azurezeed]

why? Seems like every year people say "this update was ok, but the next one will be better"

If you jump 3 generations of coarse it will be more interesting...

Lol I just was pointing that 14nm will have 3 iterations from intel

[Biggerboot]

I'd mainly be getting the Skylake platform for DDR4 RAM (a cheaper way of getting it than Haswell-E).  You won't see major performance boosts now but just like the jump from DDR2-DDR3, it'll pay dividends later.

 

Personally I'm waiting for the i3 variants of Skylake and more motherboard choices.  Then maybe upgrade to an i7 Cannonlake in the future.

[ThomasD]

Maybe if youre building from scratch, Upgrading doesnt seem worth it for me to have to buy a new CPU+Mobo+DDR4 ram

Even if you are building from scratch (which I am doing right now) the only "benefit" I see is that you would be able to re-use that DDR4 when you upgrade a few more years down the road.

 

Otherwise I do not see any sort of benefit from Skylake sufficient  to justify the additional expenses (so I'm sticking with Devils Canyon.)

[Nena Trinity]

Skylake is kinda pointless cause DDR4 only has more cast latency... 

[Andrew Sh]

Skylake is kinda pointless cause DDR4 only has more cast latency...

Yeah, only the high end ddr4 is faster. Its about the performance index. MHz/cl. Best value ram at the moment is ddr3 2133mhz cl9. Super cheap, high index

[Nena Trinity]

Yeah, only the high end ddr4 is faster. Its about the performance index. MHz/cl. Best value ram at the moment is ddr3 2133mhz cl9. Super cheap, high index

I just do not think the current RAM they offer is worth it... (3000MHz+ with CL9 or less then we are talking!)

[Andrew Sh]

I just do not think the current RAM they offer is worth it... (3000MHz+ with CL9 or less then we are talking!)

Indeed.

2666mhz with cl 15:

2666/15 = 178

2133mhz with cl9:

2133/9 = 237

So the ddr3 is actually faster in that case.

Then again, anything over 1600mhz gives you no performance difference. Its all within margin of error.

[Nena Trinity]

Indeed.

2666mhz with cl 15:

2666/15 = 178

2133mhz with cl9:

2133/9 = 237

So the ddr3 is actually faster in that case.

Then again, anything over 1600mhz gives you no performance difference. Its all within margin of error.

I just went for 1866MHz with CL9

[Andrew Sh]

I just went for 1866MHz with CL9

That's about 203 performance index. Still faster than 2666 MHz cl15

[Nena Trinity]

That's about 203 performance index. Still faster than 2666 MHz cl15

Awesome then!

[MahtXL]

Short answer= Nope. Long answer= Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooope

End of thread.

[ThomasD]

So now that that has been released, Will the prices on z97 and Devils Canyon go down?

Other than the odd sale here or there no, prices will not go down.

[miagisan]

Sky lake looks to be a very bad choice in terms buying a new system. Rather spend it on Devils canyon to be quite honest. DDR 4 isn't enough to warrant the sky lake price tag imho.

[Andrew Sh]

Sky lake looks to be a very bad choice in terms buying a new system. Rather spend it on Devils canyon to be quite honest. DDR 4 isn't enough to warrant the sky lake price tag imho.

Yeah I'm feeling the same way about it right now.

DDR4 that is actuallyClose in price to ddr3 is slower. I can get 2x4gb 2133mhz cl9 for 55euro. That has a performance index of like 220+. 2666mhz cl15 costs about 70+ and that's a PI of about 170

Even if you are building from scratch (which I am doing right now) the only "benefit" I see is that you would be able to re-use that DDR4 when you upgrade a few more years down the road.

Otherwise I do not see any sort of benefit from Skylake sufficient to justify the additional expenses (so I'm sticking with Devils Canyon.)

I'm in the same boat. It'll cost about about 120 euro extra to get me skylake instead. That includes all 3 pieces.

Where as for 4790k I'll be getting high end ddr3 and a asrock fatality killer motherboard while saving so much money