UK Major Infrastructure Upgrade

[TeriyakiTurtle]

SKY and TalkTalk are two major broadband providers in the UK. To get the advantage over the biggest broadband provider; BT,  Earlier this year they  decided to work together.

 

Starting in my home town of York, they are rolling out '1000Mb' connections by running fibre straight to the household and getting rid of the copper.

 

They have gone by the name UltraFibreOptic and rate speeds of up to 940Mb that have been tested so far

 

“Our preliminary discussions on financing such a scale roll-out have been positive, underscoring our confidence in the opportunity for building an economically viable, alternative and superior fibre infrastructure to that available today,”

 

 

http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/may/14/talktalk-trial-york-internet-broadband

 

 

[Monkey Dust]

I just wish they'd pull their fingers out of their collective arses and get half decent broadband out to rural areas.

[OfficialJsP]

about time tbh in my town we only have fiber to the box and only got it like 3 years ago and i was paying for 75mb down and 20mb up but we only got 20mb down and 6mb up because half of our town is still using copper cables.

[HoiDaniel]

But ya know, you have to pay 500 euro's or pounds per month for such business internet.

[Master Disaster]

BT already do it, its called FTTP and its silly expensive compared to FTTC which is what most UK fibre users have.

[JustChilliing]

TalkTalk broadband at the moment is shocking in my county and Surrey, I'm not unfortunate enough to have it, but a few of my friends are on a sweet, sweet 5Mbps, or if someone watches Netflix, it drops to sub 1Mbps.

[JustChilliing]

But ya know, you have to pay 500 euro's or pounds per month for such business internet.

 

Broadband is cheap over here, assuming your area is covered.

[daniellearmouth]

I live a couple dozen miles from York.

 

Maybe I'll eventually get some decent internet here.

 

YOU HEAR ME, SKY?

[HoiDaniel]

Broadband is cheap over here, assuming your area is covered.

I live in the netherlands, and we have very good internet over here. like top-3 or something.

Maximum subscription (? i dont speak english lol) is 600 euro's per month for 450 mb/s down and up. 75 down and up is more like 40 euro's.

[Valentyn]

I just wish they'd pull their fingers out of their collective arses and get half decent broadband out to rural areas.

 

I've a friend here in Ireland that still gets DSL and he's only 2 miles outside of my town where I get Fibre.

He pays €55 a month for 2Mb down 0.5 Up.

I pay €75 a month for TV, Phone, and 240Mb down 25mb Up.

[JustChilliing]

I live in the netherlands, and we have very good internet over here. like top-3 or something.

Maximum subscription (? i dont speak english lol) is 600 euro's per month for 450 mb/s down and up. 75 down and up is more like 40 euro's.

 

I can't speak on behalf of business speeds, but for £100 with my ISP, you get all the sports channels + all the others,152Mbps down, not sure on up, landline.

 

We pay £70 for 100Mbps, actual speed is 106Mbps down and 6 Mbps up? We only got it because they offered it as a free upgrade for being long time customers

[AddonCustoms]

We pay £70 for 100Mbps, actual speed is 106Mbps down and 6 Mbps up? We only got it because they offered it as a free upgrade for being long time customers

You with Virgin Media?

If you are here is a tip (Might work with other ISPs as well).

Contact them every few months and ask them if they have any deals available for existing customers.  I got told to do this by a virgin media tech. I was paying £80 for 100MB download 6MB Upload, 200+ Tv channels with Virgin HD box, and phone line, so I done what this tech suggested and now we get 160MB download 12MB upload, 200+ TV channels with a new Tivo box (can now record, pause etc...) and phone line all for £70 a month, not only did we manage to upgrade and get more we also got it cheaper than what we were paying.

[JustChilliing]

​I'll suggest it to the bill payer, sounds good though! Quite happy with what we have, but a little more never hurt

[brownninja97]

Kinda sucks, i live in outer london and honestly the best i can get is 36down 10top for £12. Now that is cheap but my family agrees we would be fine paying more for better internet. Sadly no one has the ability to go faster here, not sure why

[JAKEBAB]

I just wish they'd pull their fingers out of their collective arses and get half decent broadband out to rural areas.

Too much money for too little reward, move if your not happy, you complaining about this is like someone complaining there isn't a burger king in there rural town, at the end of the day there a business and need to make money to survive.

[mikeeginger]

Yer Yer Herd this before 

Why are we not getting Fibre to the Home>?

[Me1z]

Yer Yer Herd this before 

Why are we not getting Fibre to the Home>?

 Because as far as I know, it isn't actually possible at this point. Fibre can go from point A to point B really fast, but it can't branch without having a separate machine interpret the signals to do so. You would literally need a fibre to binary' converter, a switch, and  another 'binary to fibre' converter hanging from the power lines every 10 feet or so. The act of converting between the two mediums takes time and a ton of energy. Rolling this out would be stupid expensive and I'm pretty sure the latency from the constant conversions would more than negate the speed increase from the fibre lines. 

[Monkey Dust]

Too much money for too little reward, move if your not happy, you complaining about this is like someone complaining there isn't a burger king in there rural town, at the end of the day there a business and need to make money to survive.

 

Well it's government policy to get decent broadband out to rural areas, in the name of stimulating the economy, they just haven't done it yet. I don't even live that from from civilisation either, only about 15 miles from Bath (if only I had a few million quid for a nice Georgian town house), it's not like I'm in the middle of nowhere and yet I get 0.5 Mbps on a good day.

 

Moving is on my agenda, but more for a quicker commute than the internet.

[mikeeginger]

 Because as far as I know, it isn't actually possible at this point. Fibre can go from point A to point B really fast, but it can't branch without having a separate machine interpret the signals to do so. You would literally need a fibre to binary' converter, a switch, and  another 'binary to fibre' converter hanging from the power lines every 10 feet or so. The act of converting between the two mediums takes time and a ton of energy. Rolling this out would be stupid expensive and I'm pretty sure the latency from the constant conversions would more than negate the speed increase from the fibre lines. 

Care to explain Google Fibre>? and how it offers far greater speeds and low ping times >?

Also Why surely it's not a good idea to bottle neck in fibre which is already there with copper to houses>?

Mind you ISP's would most make people pay a lot and give the lowest speeds available eg 100mbps not say 1000 

[alexyy]

Can't wait to see what BT and Virgin call their Internet once they upgrade? 

 

Ultramegafirbeinternetopticness?

[spyder]

I left sky a couple months back, had their unlimited fibre package, 40 down, 5 up. The performance was sub par since everyone in our household connects to the network causing bandwidth to be hogged. Have since moved to Virgin with their 152 down and 20 up line. The connection is much more better, partly because I live in London. 

[Me1z]

Care to explain Google Fibre>? and how it offers far greater speeds and low ping times >?

Also Why surely it's not a good idea to bottle neck in fibre which is already there with copper to houses>?

Mind you ISP's would most make people pay a lot and give the lowest speeds available eg 100mbps not say 1000 

 

I think you're misunderstanding. I'm not stating that fibre optic technology is impossible, I'm saying that SPLITTING a fibre optic connection with the frequency required for a 100% fibre optic network in a suburban area is pointless. There is no such thing as a fibre optic router, there are no computers capable of processing in the medium of 'light pulses'. In order for data to be routed it needs to be interpreted into digital/binary signals. The distance between two homes is way too short to justify fibre 'to home' connections. The 'last mile' of any internet capable network needs to be digital so the data can be routed properly. Google fibre makes use of a cutting edge fibre optic connections in the back bone of their network infrastructure, but I would find it very hard to believe that the fibre connections actually go directly to people's homes. If you've got some sort documentation from google stating otherwise, I'd love to read it, but I have yet to find anything implying that.

[rhyseyness]

TalkTalk broadband at the moment is shocking in my county and Surrey, I'm not unfortunate enough to have it, but a few of my friends are on a sweet, sweet 5Mbps, or if someone watches Netflix, it drops to sub 1Mbps.

1Mbps master race.

(talktalk user here  )

[WelshDdraig]

While I'm happy with my connection at the moment. I would not complain if this was available in my area. If its cheaper than my current plan, I might end up switching...

[Curufinwe_wins]

Lol you guys got it made. You should see how much internet costs in the US outside of the major cities...

50-100 USD a month and you'd be lucky to get 5/2 mbps service.