Mini itx build! Need help

[Kyuubixchidori]

Hey everyone. So just sold my xeon rig and time to downsize. I want the smallest system possible within reason

I have 800 to play with, but want to come no where near it.

-access to microcenter

-have storage and ram already

-small as possible

-i5

-keep cost down.

-want a 750ti. I just sold my system with one, and that's what I want price/performance/thermals

This is for college, so left over money will go towards laptop. This is soley a light gaming/second rig

[TheAmazingCookieFromSquare]

For $800 you can get this which is really like you know better-

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Rs34Vn

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Rs34Vn/by_merchant/

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($284.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($110.86 @ Mwave) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($199.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case: Corsair 380T Mini ITX Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 

Other: Ram 

Other: Storage 

Total: $785.82

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 22:16 EDT-0400

[NumLock21]

Should have kept your Xeon and just swap out the case and mobo.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z97I-PLUS Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($151.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card  ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: RAIJINTEK Metis (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case  ($39.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $558.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 22:17 EDT-0400

[Kyuubixchidori]

For $800 you can get this which is really like you know better-

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Rs34Vn

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Rs34Vn/by_merchant/

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($284.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H97N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($110.86 @ Mwave) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card  ($199.99 @ NCIX US) 

Case: Corsair 380T Mini ITX Tower Case  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 

Other: Ram 

Other: Storage 

Total: $785.82

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 22:16 EDT-0400

I'd much rather spend less if possible. I know I can get better, that's what I'm selling a xeon build for. The point is I'm downsizing in size and power to save money. So wanted to stick to the i5(or xeon) with a 750ti in the smallest itx possible.

[TheAmazingCookieFromSquare]

I'd much rather spend less if possible. I know I can get better, that's what I'm selling a xeon build for. The point is I'm downsizing in size and power to save money. So wanted to stick to the i5(or xeon) with a 750ti in the smallest itx possible.

Ok then new rig incoming

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pkQPTW

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pkQPTW/by_merchant/

 

CPU: *Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: *ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($89.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card  ($129.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Case: RAIJINTEK Metis (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case  ($39.99 @ NCIX US) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($48.45 @ Directron) 

Total: $475.37

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 22:22 EDT-0400

[rafazafar]

how bout somthing like this :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX/WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($64.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($42.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Club 3D Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card  ($126.63 @ Amazon) 

Case: Silverstone Sugo SG13B-Q Mini ITX Tower Case  ($47.00 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Total: $540.43

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 22:21 EDT-0400

[Kyuubixchidori]

Should have kept your Xeon and just swap out the case and mobo. PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz)Motherboard: Asus Z97I-PLUS Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($151.99 @ SuperBiiz)Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card  ($124.99 @ NCIX US)Case: RAIJINTEK Metis (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case  ($39.99 @ NCIX US)Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($74.99 @ Newegg)Total: $558.91Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 22:17 EDT-0400

Is their cheaper mobos? Want to keep the total spent around 500. Thatd let me downsize, hardly lose power and make 300$

[Kyuubixchidori]

how bout somthing like this :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX/WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($64.98 @ Newegg) 

Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($42.99 @ Newegg) 

Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($46.89 @ OutletPC) 

Video Card: Club 3D Radeon R9 270 2GB Video Card  ($126.63 @ Amazon) 

Case: Silverstone Sugo SG13B-Q Mini ITX Tower Case  ($47.00 @ Amazon) 

Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Total: $540.43

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 22:21 EDT-0400

Have ram+storage, and 750ti is the same price, so I'm looking 450$ish?

[NumLock21]

Is their cheaper mobos? Want to keep the total spent around 500. Thatd let me downsize, hardly lose power and make 300$

With ITX board, it's either get everything you can onboard or buy USB adapters. Here is another config the newest cheapest decent ITX board. To bad broadwell is MIA, otherwise you can save on the GPU by using IrisPro.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($72.98 @ Newegg)

Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Superclocked Video Card  ($124.99 @ NCIX US)

Case: RAIJINTEK Metis (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case  ($39.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $454.90

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 22:28 EDT-0400

 

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz)

Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($72.98 @ Newegg)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R7 360 2GB Video Card  ($109.99 @ Amazon)

Case: RAIJINTEK Metis (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case  ($39.99 @ NCIX US)

Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $439.90

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 22:32 EDT-0400

[MageTank]

Have ram+storage, and 750ti is the same price, so I'm looking 450$ish?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Cooler Master Elite 110 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($30.98 @ Newegg) 

Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($23.99 @ Newegg) 

Total: $390.90

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 22:29 EDT-0400

 

This includes a gold rated PSU. A pretty small case and the price is pretty sweet. You don't really need Z97 or H97 if you do not plan on going broadwell or M.2. H81 will work fine. I have a SFF build myself, let me know if you have questions or need something changed in the build.

[rafazafar]

Hey everyone. So just sold my xeon rig and time to downsize. I want the smallest system possible within reason

I have 800 to play with, but want to come no where near it.

-access to microcenter

-have storage and ram already

-small as possible

-i5

-keep cost down.

-want a 750ti. I just sold my system with one, and that's what I want price/performance/thermals

This is for college, so left over money will go towards laptop. This is soley a light gaming/second rig

or if you want something reallz small:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz) 

Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX/WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($64.98 @ Newegg) 

Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card  ($148.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Case: Rosewill RS-MI-01 BK Mini ITX Tower Case w/250W Power Supply  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 

Total: $430.91

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 22:33 EDT-0400

[dizmo]

Here's what I'd do if I were you. I chose that motherboard for its feature set; WiFi, as well as a vast number of USB ports.

Plus it'll play pretty much anything.

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($72.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 280X 3GB TurboDuo Video Card  ($192.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone Sugo SG13B-Q Mini ITX Tower Case  ($47.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Plus 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($71.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $551.90

 

Here's what I'd do if you don't need as many USB ports, and can deal with a lesser graphics card.

You lose out on quite a bit of performance though.

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($166.95 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H81M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card  ($119.50 @ Newegg)
Case: Silverstone Sugo SG13B-Q Mini ITX Tower Case  ($47.00 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Plus 500W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($71.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $464.43

 

 

This is by far the smallest m-ITX case I've been able to find. Though, if you don't mind spending more, the FT-03 Mini has a smaller desktop footprint.

It's just a whole lot taller. And more expensive.

[Sam Z Man]

The case has crazy good airflow with a 200mm fan in the front and dual 80mm ones in the back, it has a nice window in the top, it's also cheap and is under a cubic foot in size.

 

The motherboard has built in 802.11a/b/g/n/ac wifi which is very useful to have with mini ITX where a add in card is not an option.

 

The i5-4590 is clocked 100mhz higher than the 4460, but 4590 is 6$ cheaper than the 4460 if you pick it up in store at microcenter.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

 

It also comes in at half of the budget and has everything you want.

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($159.99 @ Micro Center) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($72.98 @ Newegg) 

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Thermaltake Core V1 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($37.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 

Total: $404.93

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 22:56 EDT-0400

[Kyuubixchidori]

The case has crazy good airflow with a 200mm fan in the front and dual 80mm ones in the back, it has a nice window in the top, it's also cheap and is under a cubic foot in size.

 

The motherboard has built in 802.11a/b/g/n/ac wifi which is very useful to have with mini ITX where a add in card is not an option.

 

The i5-4590 is clocked 100mhz higher than the 4460, but 4590 is 6$ cheaper than the 4460 if you pick it up in store at microcenter.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

 

It also comes in at half of the budget and has everything you want.

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($159.99 @ Micro Center) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97M-ITX/AC Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($72.98 @ Newegg) 

Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 

Case: Thermaltake Core V1 Mini ITX Tower Case  ($37.99 @ Micro Center) 

Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply  ($23.98 @ Newegg) 

Total: $404.93

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-07-02 22:56 EDT-0400

Considering this. Need to compare the two cases though more.

Micro center also has a fx6300+mobo for 99$.saving 130-140$ is tempting as like I said, light 750ti type gaming. But that'd kick it up to matx.

And before someone argues cpu performance, I had a i5-3570k4.4ghz, and a xeon 1230v3. My bro has a fx6300 that kept up with a 7970 just fine. Something slightly faster then the 750ti.

So its mostly a question of how much size difference+features for the itx Intel board vs cheapo and board. I have a 90$ Asus wifi card I can and will use so WiFi is a mute point

[Sam Z Man]

Considering this. Need to compare the two cases though more.

Micro center also has a fx6300+mobo for 99$.saving 130-140$ is tempting as like I said, light 750ti type gaming. But that'd kick it up to matx.

And before someone argues cpu performance, I had a i5-3570k4.4ghz, and a xeon 1230v3. My bro has a fx6300 that kept up with a 7970 just fine. Something slightly faster then the 750ti.

So its mostly a question of how much size difference+features for the itx Intel board vs cheapo and board. I have a 90$ Asus wifi card I can and will use so WiFi is a mute point

 

Well if it's a FX cpu you won't be able to have mini ITX.

 

And if you want a small form factor mini ITX system, with a dedicated Graphics card you will not be able to use that WiFi card.

 

And you won't be able to upgrade the gpu beyond something like a 960 or 280 if you get a FX-6300.

[Kyuubixchidori]

Well if it's a FX cpu you won't be able to have mini ITX.

 

And if you want a small form factor mini ITX system, with a dedicated Graphics card you will not be able to use that WiFi card.

Well that's what I'm saying, I'm curious how much bigger matx is then itx when it comes to cases. Then onboard WiFi is irrelevant, and get to upgrade ram cheaper down the road.

What atx case would you recommend? Just so I can do some comparisons?

If I could make a budget gaming pc for 300$ that'd be bad ass as I can then get a xps 12 for school

[Sam Z Man]

Well that's what I'm saying, I'm curious how much bigger matx is then itx when it comes to cases. Then onboard WiFi is irrelevant, and get to upgrade ram cheaper down the road.

What atx case would you recommend? Just so I can do some comparisons?

If I could make a budget gaming pc for 300$ that'd be bad ass as I can then get a xps 12 for school

 

MATX and ATX are significantly bigger, and cases for them are also typically more expensive, if you plan to stick with a 750ti and never upgrade the GPU even the FX-6300 could keep up, but its ability to keep up with better GPU's is non existent, and there are cheaper CPU's that perform better in games then a FX-6300.

[Kyuubixchidori]

MATX and ATX are significantly bigger, and cases for them are also typically more expensive, if you plan to stick with a 750ti and never upgrade the GPU even the FX-6300 could keep up, but its ability to keep up with better GPU's is non existent, and there are cheaper CPU's that perform better in games then a FX-6300.

Mate what can match the fx6300+mobo for 100$?

As this is turning into a 200-250$ build,if I scrap the itx plan, it probably won't see upgrades.

Sorry for the large range, just trying to see all my options

[Sam Z Man]

Mate what can match the fx6300+mobo for 100$?

 

What motherboard is it just curious. 

[Kyuubixchidori]

What motherboard is it just curious.

http://www.microcenter.com/product/427160/GA-78LMT-USB3_Socket_AM3_mATX_760G_AMD_Motherboard

So basically get the mobo free. Only reason I'd consider the fx line up right now

[Sam Z Man]

http://www.microcenter.com/product/427160/GA-78LMT-USB3_Socket_AM3_mATX_760G_AMD_Motherboard

So basically get the mobo free. Only reason I'd consider the fx line up right now

 

Yea I would do it but don't expect to overclock.

[Kyuubixchidori]

Yea I would do it but don't expect to overclock.

Right. I know I wouldn't be able to, but hell free is free. This rig being so cheap will most likely turn into a htpc down the road.

So 230$ for fx6300+750ti atx or 450 for i5+750ti itx seem like my options

[MageTank]

Right. I know I wouldn't be able to, but hell free is free. This rig being so cheap will most likely turn into a htpc down the road.

So 230$ for fx6300+750ti atx or 450 for i5+750ti itx seem like my options

I gave you the option of having an i5, 430w gold PSU, and a small itx case for $390. The FX6300 is on a dead socket, and the IPC of the FX series is terrible. I hope you do not play MMO's, because these CPU's just play them terribly. 

 

I would try to avoid the FX if i were you, but $99 for a CPU and board is not bad. Just understand that the board being paired with this CPU is not one you should attempt to overclock with. The VRM's seriously cannot handle that kind of stress. I would almost rather see you get this just for the sake of getting the form factor you wanted. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883181002&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Desktop+Computers-_-N82E16883181002&gclid=CPbBgt6IvsYCFQoPaQodfMQPhw&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

Granted, its not the best, but they apparently can support full length cards, upgraded ITX boards, etc. They also sell intel versions as well. Starting from an $800 budget, and then going down to $300 kinda limits your selection here.

[Kyuubixchidori]

I gave you the option of having an i5, 430w gold PSU, and a small itx case for $390. The FX6300 is on a dead socket, and the IPC of the FX series is terrible. I hope you do not play MMO's, because these CPU's just play them terribly. 

 

I would try to avoid the FX if i were you, but $99 for a CPU and board is not bad. Just understand that the board being paired with this CPU is not one you should attempt to overclock with. The VRM's seriously cannot handle that kind of stress. I would almost rather see you get this just for the sake of getting the form factor you wanted. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883181002&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-PC-_-pla-_-Desktop+Computers-_-N82E16883181002&gclid=CPbBgt6IvsYCFQoPaQodfMQPhw&gclsrc=aw.ds

 

Granted, its not the best, but they apparently can support full length cards, upgraded ITX boards, etc. They also sell intel versions as well. Starting from an $800 budget, and then going down to $300 kinda limits your selection here.

Whoops. 230$ vs 390$.

Before I get rid of my pc, I'm going to test the 750ti with my bros 6300. and if anything I use bottlenecks AT ALL. I'll go with the i5 or spend a bit more and get a xeon or something. My computer is being picked up next Friday so have a bit of time

[MageTank]

Whoops. 230$ vs 390$.

Before I get rid of my pc, I'm going to test the 750ti with my bros 6300. and if anything I use bottlenecks AT ALL. I'll go with the i5 or spend a bit more and get a xeon or something. My computer is being picked up next Friday so have a bit of time

You won't see a bottleneck as far as the CPU bottlenecking the 750 Ti. That card is not exactly that powerful. The problem with the FX series is the IPC is slow. In games that use only 1-2 cores (MMO's, older AAA games, etc) you will experience micro-stutters. Still, if you are trying to save as much money as possible, $99 is a pretty decent deal. Go with your gut, and buy whatever tool fits the job. If you think a 6300 and 750 Ti will suit your needs, then what more can you ask for? I used an FX 8320 with a GTX 770 for a long time before going to a G3258. I loved that CPU, as i would use it for my Xen hypervisor. Not exactly the best thing for gaming, but it got the job done. The G3258 is vastly superior for the MMO's that i play, and i also went for an ITX form factor (will replace it with a broadwell i7 when they come out) so the G3258 was a great buy to use as a stop-gap.

 

My current rig: http://prntscr.com/7o7uqw

 

Excuse the wires, non-modular PSU is a hassle in a case this small. I will be buying a modular PSU with slim cables in the next week or so. ITX is really fun and different, but if you have large hands, be prepared to sacrifice blood inside of your case to make something fit.