All non conductive fluids?

[Matriox]

So I'm trying to do a mineral oil cooled ps3 jailbroken and maybe a ps4 but in my area mineral oil is very low so I was wondering if, other than baby oil, there is any other fluids that won't erode metals and cool just the same as mineral and of course non conductive.. Also maybe a price difference? 

[Guest]

You can get mineral oil on Amazon

[KirbyTech]

So I'm trying to do a mineral oil cooled ps3 jailbroken and maybe a ps4 but in my area mineral oil is very low so I was wondering if, other than baby oil, there is any other fluids that won't erode metals and cool just the same as mineral and of course non conductive.. Also maybe a price difference? 

You could look into mayhems, find something and mix a semi translucent fluid.

[Matriox]

You can get mineral oil on Amazon

Shipping is outrageous though

[ThomasD]

You probably will not find anything cheaper than mineral oil.  Other options would be liquid fluorocarbons, silicone oil, and transformer fluid (commercial mixtures of mineral oil along with fluorocarbons or silicone oil.)

[d3sl91]

So I'm trying to do a mineral oil cooled ps3 jailbroken and maybe a ps4 but in my area mineral oil is very low so I was wondering if, other than baby oil, there is any other fluids that won't erode metals and cool just the same as mineral and of course non conductive.. Also maybe a price difference? 

Vegetable oil. I built one, works fine, just looks weird. 

 

Edit: And heres some of the cheapest you can find: http://store.steoil.com/mineral-oil-pc-kit/?sort=featured

[KingKeith55]

Gallium?

[Nexxus]

Try mustard

[ThomasD]

Vegetable oil. I built one, works fine, just looks weird. 

 

Edit: And heres some of the cheapest you can find: http://store.steoil.com/mineral-oil-pc-kit/?sort=featured

Nice idea.

 

They will oxidize, and could go rancid, but given the relatively low cost could be replaced as necessary.

[phillrulz]

So I'm trying to do a mineral oil cooled ps3 jailbroken and maybe a ps4 but in my area mineral oil is very low so I was wondering if, other than baby oil, there is any other fluids that won't erode metals and cool just the same as mineral and of course non conductive.. Also maybe a price difference? 

my oil submerged pc in my DP was done using liquid paraffin which is a refined version of mineral oil, bought it from a vet store. 

[Matriox]

Nice idea.

 

They will oxidize, and could go rancid, but given the relatively low cost could be replaced as necessary.

So if I used vegetable oil would it last as long as a normal mineral oil cooled pc would? like luke's did in Linus's video 

[Matriox]

my oil submerged pc in my DP was done using liquid paraffin which is a refined version of mineral oil, bought it from a vet store. 

liquid paraffin wax? Like tourch lamp fluid? 

[ThomasD]

So if I used vegetable oil would it last as long as a normal mineral oil cooled pc would? like luke's did in Linus's video 

Having never tried that myself I'm probably not the person to ask.  I doubt vegetable oil, being perishable, would last as long as mineral oil.

 

If you go that route you might consider something like vegetable shortening, that way you could see the phase change as it heated up.

[phillrulz]

liquid paraffin wax? Like tourch lamp fluid? 

haha alot of people get them mixed up, paraffin is flammable liquid paraffin is not very easy to burn. 

[Matriox]

haha alot of people get them mixed up, paraffin is flammable liquid paraffin is not very easy to burn. 

I'm a little confused hah so the fluid to the link below is what you used or not? 

http://www.amazon.com/Case-Gallons-Smokeless-Liquid-Paraffin/dp/B00I8686I6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1435014757&sr=8-2&keywords=liquid+parrafin&pebp=1435014816207&perid=13JT2ZZRE2NK6VGD9CAR

[phillrulz]

liquid paraffin wax? Like tourch lamp fluid? 

 

Vets use it as a laxative... here is where i got it but american mineral oil is ALOT cheaper than it is here.... http://www.viovet.co.uk/Liquid_Paraffin/c4032/?sct_t=1435014243&sct_q=liquid+paraffin&sct_r=1

 

Having never tried that myself I'm probably not the person to ask.  I doubt vegetable oil, being perishable, would last as long as mineral oil.

 

If you go that route you might consider something like vegetable shortening, that way you could see the phase change as it heated up.

I did mine in liquid parafin a highly refined mineral oil, i put gravel at the bottom both aesthetics and if any water gets in ( moisture from air or spilled) it will sink and sit in the gravel not the mobo keeping it safe, i would think the impurities in vegetable oil would let it carry more water. My Oil submerged pc has had the PSU on and mobo on standby for coming up on one year, ( july 10th) 

[BOT Edward]

Vegetable oil. I built one, works fine, just looks weird. 

 

Edit: And heres some of the cheapest you can find: http://store.steoil.com/mineral-oil-pc-kit/?sort=featured

 

inb4deepfriedgpu

 

Id just stick with mineral oil. It's cool but cleaning is a b*tch

[ThomasD]

Vets use it as a laxative... here is where i got it but american mineral oil is ALOT cheaper than it is here.... http://www.viovet.co.uk/Liquid_Paraffin/c4032/?sct_t=1435014243&sct_q=liquid+paraffin&sct_r=1

 

I did mine in liquid parafin a highly refined mineral oil, i put gravel at the bottom both aesthetics and if any water gets in ( moisture from air or spilled) it will sink and sit in the gravel not the mobo keeping it safe, i would think the impurities in vegetable oil would let it carry more water. My Oil submerged pc has had the PSU on and mobo on standby for coming up on one year, ( july 10th) 

Isn't paraffin oil pretty flammable?  I know mineral oil is technically flammable, but practically speaking it is darn hard to ignite.  Have you tried testing yours with a spark?

 

Commercial vegetable oils intended for high temperature cooking (as opposed to things like extra virgin olive oil) are going to be reasonably "pure" insofar as they will be almost pure oil, without any significant protein or sugar content.

 

But as I mentioned before, they are all perishable and will eventually go rancid, a process where the triglycerides will break down into shorter chain fatty acids which could begin to smell rather foul (depending on the exact compunds formed) and will be much more likely to cause oxidation of electronic components.  Another possible outcome is conversion to a sort of drying oil (like linseed, walnut, and others are naturally) in which case the oils could harden into a film that would require mechanical removal.

[phillrulz]

Isn't paraffin oil pretty flammable?  I know mineral oil is technically flammable, but practically speaking it is darn hard to ignite.  Have you tried testing yours with a spark?

 

Commercial vegetable oils intended for high temperature cooking (as opposed to things like extra virgin olive oil) are going to be reasonably "pure" insofar as they will be almost pure oil, without any significant protein or sugar content.

 

But as I mentioned before, they are all perishable and will eventually go rancid, a process where the triglycerides will break down into shorter chain fatty acids which could begin to smell rather foul (depending on the exact compunds formed) and will be much more likely to cause oxidation of electronic components.  Another possible outcome is conversion to a sort of drying oil (like linseed, walnut, and others are naturally) in which case the oils could harden into a film that would require mechanical removal.

 

Here is the evidence its not flammable, i know it drips wax but you get the idea. 

[W-L]

You could look into mayhems, find something and mix a semi translucent fluid.

Any non conductive watercooling fluid will become conductive overtime since it's mainly distilled water and it picks up ions from any metal parts it comes in contact with.

 

-SNIP-

Paraffin isn't flammable unless there is a wick to heat and vaporize the oil so it's pretty safe unless it reaches flashpoint which is pretty high temps (~150C).

 

@Matriox

If you can get mineral oil that would be the best stuff to use, alternatively something like clear silicone lubricating oil is also a very close substitute. Alternative fluids are synthetic transformer cooling fluids but I'm not even sure how one would get their hands on that stuff.