GTX 980(OC) vs GTX 980 TI

[simo292a]

Hi how close would the performance be between a gtx 980 that is overclocked vs a gtx 980 ti stock? If it is close i could save some money by buying a gtx 980 instead.

[Altecice]

Id imagine it would. But the 980Ti overclocks like a beast and will beat the 980 OC.... so its really up to you as to how you interpret that.

[Tedster]

Just go with the 980 Ti. Leagues better.

[simo292a]

Id imagine it would. But the 980Ti overclocks like a beast and will beat the 980 OC.... so its really up to you as to how you interpret that.

Well its more about the price for me. Currently i am gaming at 1080p and maybe later 1440p but not 4k. I just need a card that i can use for some years with stable 60 fps at 1080p and later 1440p maybe.

[Dzzope]

They are about the same on price to performance at current MSRP, pick whichever suits your needs better.. the Ti will clock like a boss so it's not a valid comparrison. BUT if stock 980ti performance is where you want to be, a good 980 will get close.

[FuzzyYellow]

go with the 980ti. it will last you longer, and has a much better price/performance ratio (on par with a 970)

[Dzzope]

Well its more about the price for me. Currently i am gaming at 1080p and maybe later 1440p but not 4k. I just need a card that i can use for some years with stable 60 fps at 1080p and later 1440p maybe.

Save more.. go 970 and clock then in a yr or so when upgrading the monitor sell and get something even newer (Pascal?)

[Altecice]

Well its more about the price for me. Currently i am gaming at 1080p and maybe later 1440p but not 4k. I just need a card that i can use for some years with stable 60 fps at 1080p and later 1440p maybe.

 

If you plan to keep it for a few years and perhaps move to a larger resolutions then a 980Ti with its extra 2GB of VRAM would not be a bad choice.

[simo292a]

If you plan to keep it for a few years and perhaps move to a larger resolutions then a 980Ti with its extra 2GB of VRAM would not be a bad choice.

The Fury card from amd is also coming out maybe that could be a good option aswell i hope its a little cheaper.

[Altecice]

The Fury card from amd is also coming out maybe that could be a good option aswell i hope its a little cheaper.

 

True, as much as I am excited to see what the Fury can do, I wont be choosing it for my new card upgrade due to previous experience with AMD (290x's currently). I will more than likely go for 980Ti's.

 

But that's personal experience.

[VagabondWraith]

I'm not even sure a heavily overclocked 980 could reach the levels of a stock 980 Ti.

980 Ti is much greater a difference from the 980 than the 980 is to the 970.

For instance, my MSI 980 OC'd to 1540MHz can't even reach my 980 Ti at 1GHz. I still reach 15-20 more FPS (on average) with a stock Ti, and that's without OC'ing.

[maizenblue]

In the us a good overclocking 980 can be found new for 150 dollars cheaper than the 980 ti and overclocking it can close the gap some.

150 ain't chump change so if benchmarks show it reaching over 60 fps at the res you game at, go with it. Anything more is overkill and wasted money.

Pascal will probably make the 980ti look like a waste of time and money next year anyway.

Maybe get a 970 and use it for a year at 1080p, then try to sell it and upgrade gpu and monitor next year when you can do with pascal at 4k what you can do with a 980Ti at 1440p right now.

[Elapo]

Pascal will probably make the 980ti look like a waste of time and money next year anyway.

 

Does that not go for every GPU ever? 

 

Also, the 980Ti is basically a titan X, and titan cards usually still trade blows with the next generation's flagship.

[maizenblue]

Does that not go for every GPU ever?

Also, the 980Ti is basically a titan X, and titan cards usually still trade blows with the next generation's flagship.

The difference is pascal will use a 16nm process, so the performance gap will possibly be profound this time. The 980 didn't blow away the 780ti, it barely outperformed it.

[CapricaBuccaneers]

The difference is pascal will use a 16nm process, so the performance gap will possibly be profound this time. The 980 didn't blow away the 780ti, it barely outperformed it.

While your point is decent, you have to consider the price points, and the product placement due to it.

The 780Ti at release was a lot more expensive than the 980's release price - because it was the top end card of that range (excluding the Titans), whereas now (obviously) the 980 isn't.

What would be more comparable is 780Ti vs 980Ti because you're looking at the same level of cost. Even considering the different gpu model used the 980Ti is still a maxwell range.

Nvm: Techpowerup quotes the 780Ti msrp launch of $699 which is higher than the 980Ti's $649, even considering inflation. http://www.techpowerup.com/mobile/193436/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-ti-launch-date-and-pricing-revealed.html

The 980Ti absolutely destroys the 780Ti.

[maizenblue]

There is a 2 year gap and 2 generation gap between the 780ti and the 980 ti, and yet the 780 ti still remains somewhat competitive because they are both 28nm GPUs. Yes the 980 ti soundly beats it, but I wouldn't say it outright destroys it. Im not even sure if an upgrade from a 780 ti to 980 ti would be totally worth it unless you want to game in 4k, nevermind an upgrade from a 980. If I had a 780 ti id ride it out for another year because the 980 ti still cant quite manage 4k by itself in modern games.

 

Going to a 16nm process along with 2nd gen HBM will be a game changer next year. Nvidias been using a 28nm process since the 600 series.

 

Doing what you just did and comparing 2 generations of GPUs ahead of the 980 ti, I cant even imagine how badly pascals successor will wreck a 980 ti. This is assuming AMD is still around and providing real competition. If its not GPU advances could stagnate some after pascal.

[Sanctorum]

980Ti is much better than 980. The difference between a 970 and 980 is much less than the difference between a 980 and 980Ti. 980Ti will slay 1440p. Otherwise, grab a 970, add another in SLI when you can, if need be.

[Elapo]

The difference is pascal will use a 16nm process, so the performance gap will possibly be profound this time. The 980 didn't blow away the 780ti, it barely outperformed it.

 

It's never been like that before, and I doubt it'll be different. If you look at it, last time we had a change of size was GTX 580 - 680 (40->28). The performance difference wasn't any bigger than say 680-780, which was 28->28. The only massive difference we usually see from a die shrink is power consumption.

 

Also, the 780Ti should be compared to the 980Ti, not to the 980.

[maizenblue]

It's never been like that before, and I doubt it'll be different. If you look at it, last time we had a change of size was GTX 580 - 680 (40->28). The performance difference wasn't any bigger than say 680-780, which was 28->28. The only massive difference we usually see from a die shrink is power consumption.

 

Also, the 780Ti should be compared to the 980Ti, not to the 980.

That's a valid point. Maybe I am somewhat overestimating the value of a die size shrink. I think what it means is that Nvidia COULD drastically increase performance, but that doesn't mean they WILL, especially now that AMD is slowly fading into irrelevancy. Of course AMD will also be able to use a 16 nm or even smaller process, but without much money for R&D who knows if much comes of it.

 

I still think pascal will possibly see a bigger performance increase than what we've seen previously. The price of 4k monitors is falling to the point they are now relatively affordable and people want to game at 4k now. If Nvidia(or AMD) can make that happen it could be profitable for them and a 16nm process and HBM2 makes it more feasible.

 

Its also possible that with the release of AMDs 390/x, it could add some pressure on Nvidia and eat into their 970 and 980 sales, so its possible you could start seeing deals on the 980 with the price dropping to around 450 if they aren't selling, I doubt the 970 will drop in price much if at all.