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Hi guys,so far i have almost completed my build,but... I cant choose a CPU.The gpu is a R9 280x if that helps.

So im between getting the I3 4330 for 100 euros and a MSI H97m for 50(so cheap cause its from a friend)

Or a FX 6300 for 105 and an Asus M59A7 R2.0 for 67

These are the options,and i know that intel for gaming is better thanks to the better performance per core,but lately ive seen that the Fx lineup is holding against intel in games like the witcher 3.

So what do you guys think? Which would be the best cpu for gaming

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Hi guys,so far i have almost completed my build,but... I cant choose a CPU.The gpu is a R9 280x if that helps.

So im between getting the I3 4330 for 100 euros and a MSI H97m for 50(so cheap cause its from a friend)

Or a FX 6300 for 105 and an Asus M59A7 R2.0 for 67

These are the options,and i know that intel for gaming is better thanks to the better performance per core,but lately ive seen that the Fx lineup is holding against intel in games like the witcher 3.

So what do you guys think? Which would be the best cpu for gaming

i3 fo' sho'. Take a look at benchmarks. The FX lineup is older and weaker than you might think.

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I would say the i3, because Intel really seems to perform better in games.

But that CPU is a dual with hyperthreading, so some games can't play on it (without modding)

 

How about going for that Intel motherboard and an i5 4440? How much would that set you back?

(Not sure though if that motherboard needs a bios update though for the CPU, don't quote me on that)

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Get the i3. The FX isn't a gaming line, it has horrible single core performance.

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The 4690k is really the official gaming cpu in my eyes, it's not insanely expensives and it can steam roll through 99% of the games out there. The fx lineup is really kinda crap at this point but not super terrible like others seem to think. Between an i3 and a fx6300 I would actually take the i3. More consistent performance, it's known that fx chips have lower min frame rate drops.

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I would say the i3, because Intel really seems to perform better in games.

But that CPU is a dual with hyperthreading, so some games can't play on it (without modding)

 

How about going for that Intel motherboard and an i5 4440? How much would that set you back?

(Not sure though if that motherboard needs a bios update though for the CPU, don't quote me on that)

Are you sure games can't play on that? I was sure that games registered threads as cores.

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Are you sure games can't play on that? I was sure that games registered threads as cores.

I thought so too, but I keep on hearing people say it and Luke said it in a couple game or CPU reviews too.

I'm at school and we have i7's in these PC's. Task Manager says the CPU has:

Cores: 4

Logical processors: 8

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Are you sure games can't play on that? I was sure that games registered threads as cores.

all games play perfectly fine on the core i3...the FX-6300 play some games well...but tank in many others that require any kind of CPU processing horsepower.

OP i'd go with the i3-4330...it's a great board too...and next year or in two years or whatever if you want more performance you can just pop in an i5 or even an i7-4790K in there if you feel like it.

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all games play perfectly fine on the core i3...the FX-6300 play some games well...but tank in many others that require any kind of CPU processing horsepower.

OP i'd go with the i3-4330...it's a great board too...and next year or in two years or whatever if you want more performance you can just pop in an i5 or even an i7-4790K in there if you feel like it.

The 6300 does not tank on all games that require lots of cpu power, just the ones that require one or two really powerful cores. I always thought it hilarious when people go an by arma with an fx chip and wonder why they get 8fps. It just terrible for games that don't use any threads.

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The 6300 does not tank on all games that require lots of cpu power, just the ones that require one or two really powerful cores. I always thought it hilarious when people go an by arma with an fx chip and wonder why they get 8fps. It just terrible for games that don't use any threads.

correct, but many quad-threaded games still have a ''main'' thread and this one will only go as fast as your fastest CPU core...that's why many of these ''multi-threaded'' games you would think would run a lot better than they do on these FX chips.

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@i_build_nanosuits is correct (and has the experience to back it up too if I remember correctly), the i3 is the better choice.

Obviously an i5 is ideal but those i3s are no slouch. Also the hyperthreading will allow games like Far Cry 4 to run just fine even though its a dual core.

@SeanBond you're also correct BTW, the FX 6300 does handle most games quite well for what it is. But the fact that OP can get a good H97 board for so cheap is a huge factor. Solid AM3+ boards are way more than $50.

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Hi guys,finally i can stretch my budget a little bit and im going to take the i5 4460.But my question is,what mobo is compatible with this cpu? Should i stick to the h97 from msi,or can i get a B85/h81 for a lower price?

Unless you can get anything better with the extra cash I would stick with the h97
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If you can't stretch the budget for an i5 4440 then go with the i3

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Hi guys,finally i can stretch my budget a little bit and im going to take the i5 4460.But my question is,what mobo is compatible with this cpu? Should i stick to the h97 from msi,or can i get a B85/h81 for a lower price?

well...it's tricky...if you want to go with a B85 board and save some money you have the B85 anniversary from asrock or the B85 gaming 3 i believe from gigabyte which have been released AFTER the haswell refresh line of CPU and the G3258...so they will support any cpu's out of the box...it's been a over a year already since haswell refresh sku's have launched so i assume most boards should by now support them out of the box...but H97 is a nicer chipset with better features...also the MSI uefi is vastly superior to the gigabyte or asrock uefi...software suite is also better.

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i3 may be better at single-core tasks but the issue is that some games demand quad-core cpus or more...

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i3 may be better at single-core tasks but the issue is that some games demand quad-core cpus or more...

The i3 has hyperthreading. It is treated as a quad core, even by stubborn Ubisoft standards.

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i3 may be better at single-core tasks but the issue is that some games demand quad-core cpus or more...

 

HT is fine for that, and works really nice. The problem comes with the so overrated  G3258 

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The i3 has hyperthreading. It is treated as a quad core, even by stubborn Ubisoft standards.

Wreally? Some people I have seen could not start with a i3!

 

HT is fine for that, and works really nice. The problem comes with the so overrated  G3258 

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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: Intel Core i5-10600(ASUS Performance Enhancement), 6-cores, 12-threads, 4.4/4.8GHz, 13,7MB cache (Intel 14nm++ FinFET) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Gaming OC GCN5 56CUs @1.7GHz 12.19 TFLOPS (Samsung 14nm FinFET) R.ID (NimeZ drivers) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B460 PLUS, Socket-LGA1200 (SAM enabled) / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W / RAM A1 & B1: HyperX DDR4-2666MHz CL13-15-15-30-45-2T "Samsung 8Gbit C-Die" (2x8GB) / RAM A2 & B2: Juhor DDR4-3200MHz CL16-20-20-38-72-2T "SK Hynix 8Gbit MFR" (2x16GB) / Operating System: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1 & 2: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD / Storage 3: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 4: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Storage 5: Crucial P1 1000GB M.2 SSD/ Storage 6: Western Digital WD7500BPKX 2.5" HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter (Qualcomm Atheros)

Vishera-X8-9370 | R20 score MC: 1476cb

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Case: Cooler Master HAF XB Evo Black / Case Fan(s) Front: Noctua NF-A14 ULN 140mm Premium Fans / Case Fan(s) Rear: Corsair Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition (red) / Case Fan(s) Side: Noctua NF-A6x25 FLX 60mm Premium Fan / Case Fan VRM: SUNON MagLev KDE1209PTV3 92mm / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo / CPU: AMD FX-8370 (Base: @4.4GHz | Turbo: @4.7GHz) Black Edition Eight-Core (Global Foundries 32nm) / Display: ASUS 24" LED VN247H (67Hz OC) 1920x1080p / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / GPU: Gigabyte Radeon RX Vega 56 Gaming OC @1501MHz (Samsung 14nm FinFET) / Keyboard: Logitech Desktop K120 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING, Socket-AM3+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 850W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1866MHz CL8-10-10-28-37-2T (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Windows 10 Home / Sound: Zombee Z300 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Seagate® Barracuda 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Seagate® Desktop 2TB SSHD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN951N 11n Wireless Adapter

Godavari-X4-880K | R20 score MC: 810cb

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Case: Medion Micro-ATX Case / Case Fan Front: SUNON MagLev PF70251VX-Q000-S99 70mm / Case Fan Rear: Fanner Tech(Shen Zhen)Co.,LTD. 80mm (Purple) / Controller: Sony Dualshock 4 Wireless (DS4Windows) / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 95w Thermal Solution / Cooler: AMD Near-silent 125w Thermal Solution / CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K Black Edition Elite Quad-Core (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / CPU: AMD Athlon X4 880K Black Edition Elite Quad-Core (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Display: HP 19" Flat Panel L1940 (75Hz) 1280x1024 / GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 SuperSC 2GB (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 970 4GD5 OC "Afterburner" @1450MHz (T.S.M.C. 28nm) / Keyboard: HP KB-0316 PS/2 (Nordic) / Motherboard: MSI A78M-E45 V2, Socket-FM2+ / Mouse: Razer Abyssus 2014 / PCI-E: ASRock USB 3.1/A+C (PCI Express x4) / PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G2, 550W PSU / RAM 1, 2, 3 & 4: SK hynix DDR3-1866MHz CL9-10-11-27-40 (4x4GB) 16.38GB / Operating System 1: Ubuntu Gnome 16.04 LTS (Xenial Xerus) / Operating System 2: Windows 10 Home / Sound 1: Zombee Z500 / Sound 2: Logitech Stereo Speakers S-150 / Storage 1: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD (x2) / Storage 2: Western Digital My Passport 2.5" 2TB HDD / Storage 3: Western Digital Elements Desktop 2TB HDD / Wi-fi: TP-Link TL-WN851N 11n Wireless Adapter

Acer Aspire 7738G custom (changed CPU, GPU & Storage)
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CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo P8600, 2-cores, 2-threads, 2.4GHz, 3MB cache (Intel 45nm) / GPU: ATi Radeon HD 4570 515MB DDR2 (T.S.M.C. 55nm) / RAM: DDR2-1066MHz CL7-7-7-20-1T (2x2GB) / Operating System: Windows 10 Home / Storage: Crucial BX500 480GB 3D NAND SATA 2.5" SSD

Complete portable device SoC history:

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Apple A4 - Apple iPod touch (4th generation)
Apple A5 - Apple iPod touch (5th generation)
Apple A9 - Apple iPhone 6s Plus
HiSilicon Kirin 810 (T.S.M.C. 7nm) - Huawei P40 Lite / Huawei nova 7i
Mediatek Dimensity 700 (T.S.M.C 7nm) - Cherry Mobile Aqua S10 Pro 5G
Mediatek MT2601 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TicWatch E
Mediatek MT6580 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - TECNO Spark 2 (1GB RAM)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (orange)
Mediatek MT6592M (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone my32 (yellow)
Mediatek MT6735 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - HMD Nokia 3 Dual SIM
Mediatek MT6737 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - Cherry Mobile Flare S6
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (blue)
Mediatek MT6739 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - my|phone myX8 (gold)
Mediatek MT6750 (T.S.M.C 28nm) - honor 6C Pro / honor V9 Play
Mediatek MT6765 (T.S.M.C 12nm) - TECNO Pouvoir 3 Plus
Mediatek MT6797D (T.S.M.C 20nm) - my|phone Brown Tab 1
Qualcomm MSM8926 (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE
Qualcomm MSM8974AA (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Blackberry Passport
Qualcomm SDM710 (Samsung 10nm) - Oppo Realme 3 Pro

 

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Wreally? Some people I have seen could not start with a i3!

You two sure?! :S

Yes. I've tested it myself on a 3240.

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Wreally? Some people I have seen could not start with a i3!

 

You two sure?! :S

 

 

3:32

 

i3 sometimes even destroys FX6300/8350

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well...it's tricky...if you want to go with a B85 board and save some money you have the B85 anniversary from asrock or the B85 gaming 3 i believe from gigabyte which have been released AFTER the haswell refresh line of CPU and the G3258...so they will support any cpu's out of the box...it's been a over a year already since haswell refresh sku's have launched so i assume most boards should by now support them out of the box...but H97 is a nicer chipset with better features...also the MSI uefi is vastly superior to the gigabyte or asrock uefi...software suite is also better.

 

I wouldnt recommend Gigabyte B85 boards anymore. I saw a report on Tech Yes City's youtube channel where it was shown revision 2.0 of once good Gigabyte B85 boards are using crap components that cause lots of CPU throttling.

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Hi guys,finally i can stretch my budget a little bit and im going to take the i5 4460.But my question is,what mobo is compatible with this cpu? Should i stick to the h97 from msi,or can i get a B85/h81 for a lower price?

 

I'd try to go with an H97 board just so you don't have any headaches about updating the BIOS for the i5-4460. Alternatively you could go with H81 or B85 and get an i5-4440. I mean I think it would be unlikely you get a board with a BIOS too old for the i5-4460 if you bought an H81 or B85 board (the Haswell Refresh BIOS were released for most boards in June last year), but what a huge pain in the ass it would be if you got unlucky.

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