Posted April 18, 2015 Hello , I am planning to buy a new gaming pc as the one that I have right now is pretty old , and I can't decide when it comes to CPUs . My 2 choices are AMD Fx-6300 or AMD X4 860 K , I am looking for the best processor to handle games at the moment and in the future , and one that I can upgrade from without having to change the Motherboard in the future . Other parts : HDD : Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB SATA 3 64MB Cooler : Coler Master Blizzard T2 PSU : Cooler Master G600 , 600 W Motherboard : Gigabyte GA-F2A78M-D3H (For X4 860 K ) or Asrock 980DE3/U3S3(For FX 6300) GPU : MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB GDDR5 384-BIT (OC , TWIN FROZR IV ) Case : DeepCool TESSERACT BF RAM : DDR3 8GB (2x4GB) 1600MHz CL9 HyperX Savage So which one of these 2 CPUs will give me the best performance in the long run ? As I am on a budget , and these are my only 2 choices . And also , I wonder if the PSU will be enough to handle the components . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 You can't upgrade either for a good performance gain without changing the MoBo, as both are on Dead sockets. For upgradability, and the best performance, get an i3 4150 or save up for an i5 4440. Just remember: Random people on the internet ALWAYS know more than professionals, when someone's lying, AND can predict the future. i7 9700K (5.2Ghz @1.2V); MSI Z390 Gaming Edge AC; Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB 3200 CAS 16; H100i RGB Platinum; Samsung 970 Evo 1TB; Samsung 850 Evo 500GB; WD Black 3 TB; Phanteks 350x; Corsair RM19750w. Laptop: Dell XPS 15 4K 9750H GTX 1650 16GB Ram 256GB SSD Spoiler sex hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 the 6300 is better, and would be a good combo with the 280, but honestly you'd be better off with i5. or a really good i3 like 4360 cpu:i7-4770k gpu: msi reference r9 290x liquid cooled with h55 and hg10 a1 motherboard:z97x gaming 5 ram:gskill sniper 8 gb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 You can't upgrade either for a good performance gain without changing the MoBo, as both are on Dead sockets. For upgradability, and the best performance, get an i3 4150 or save up for an i5 4440. can't he get to the 8320,8350,9590 ? Spoiler The Ninja (current gaming pc) Case- h440 red/black cpu- i5-4690k@ 4.3ghz cooler- coolermaster hyper 212 evo mobo- Gigabyte z97x-sli ram- adata xpg v.1 2x4gb 1600mhz gpu- asus strix gtx 970 hdd- wd blue 1tb ssd- kingston hyperx savage 240gb psu- evga 600b peripherals: mouse- razer death adder 2013 keyboard- corsair k70 with chery mx-reds headset- HyperX Cloud 2 my laptop- toshiba satelite p850, cpu- i7-3630qm ram- 8gb 1600mhz hdd- 1tb 5400rpm gpu- Nvidia gt630m 2gb did you know we have a gun thread ? well we do and a car thread ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 With the 6300 Spoiler The Ninja (current gaming pc) Case- h440 red/black cpu- i5-4690k@ 4.3ghz cooler- coolermaster hyper 212 evo mobo- Gigabyte z97x-sli ram- adata xpg v.1 2x4gb 1600mhz gpu- asus strix gtx 970 hdd- wd blue 1tb ssd- kingston hyperx savage 240gb psu- evga 600b peripherals: mouse- razer death adder 2013 keyboard- corsair k70 with chery mx-reds headset- HyperX Cloud 2 my laptop- toshiba satelite p850, cpu- i7-3630qm ram- 8gb 1600mhz hdd- 1tb 5400rpm gpu- Nvidia gt630m 2gb did you know we have a gun thread ? well we do and a car thread ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 can't he get to the 8320,8350,9590 ? None of those offer Tangible performance gains in 95% of games. DirectX 12 MAY make them have a slight performance boost, but by the time that Games start using more than 6 cores the AM3+ CPU's will have long been abandoned. Just remember: Random people on the internet ALWAYS know more than professionals, when someone's lying, AND can predict the future. i7 9700K (5.2Ghz @1.2V); MSI Z390 Gaming Edge AC; Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB 3200 CAS 16; H100i RGB Platinum; Samsung 970 Evo 1TB; Samsung 850 Evo 500GB; WD Black 3 TB; Phanteks 350x; Corsair RM19750w. Laptop: Dell XPS 15 4K 9750H GTX 1650 16GB Ram 256GB SSD Spoiler sex hahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 can't he get to the 8320,8350,9590 ?A good Core i3 actually has better gaming performance than a 8350. Ryzen 9 5950x | NH-D15 | ROG STRIX X570-F | G.Skill 32GB DDR4 | MSI Ventus RTX 3080 | WD Black SN850 1TB PCIe 4 | Samsung 850 EVO + 860 EVO 1TB | Corsair 5000D Airflow Dell S3422DWG | Dell S2721DGF | Corsair K70 RGB Keyboard | Logitech G502 Lightspeed | ATH-R70x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 None of those offer Tangible performance gains in 95% of games. DirectX 12 MAY make them have a slight performance boost, but by the time that Games start using more than 6 cores the AM3+ CPU's will have long been abandoned. true enough. I was just wondering Spoiler The Ninja (current gaming pc) Case- h440 red/black cpu- i5-4690k@ 4.3ghz cooler- coolermaster hyper 212 evo mobo- Gigabyte z97x-sli ram- adata xpg v.1 2x4gb 1600mhz gpu- asus strix gtx 970 hdd- wd blue 1tb ssd- kingston hyperx savage 240gb psu- evga 600b peripherals: mouse- razer death adder 2013 keyboard- corsair k70 with chery mx-reds headset- HyperX Cloud 2 my laptop- toshiba satelite p850, cpu- i7-3630qm ram- 8gb 1600mhz hdd- 1tb 5400rpm gpu- Nvidia gt630m 2gb did you know we have a gun thread ? well we do and a car thread ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 What is your full budget and where are you from? [uNOFFICIAL] LTT's Pokemon Thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 Author Well my budget right now is arond 500-500$ Dollars and I am from Romania . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($109.98 @ OutletPC)CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Blizzard T2 43.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($29.02 Amazon)Motherboard: ASRock 980DE3/U3S3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($53.98 @ Newegg)Memory: Kingston Fury White Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.99 @ Amazon)Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.49 @ OutletPC)Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 280 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($188.98 @ Newegg)Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.98 @ Newegg)Power Supply: Cooler Master 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ NCIX US)Total: $618.41Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-18 10:54 EDT-0400 ^^^Using your stated spec list^^^ OR PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchantCPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($173.95 @ SuperBiiz)Motherboard: Asus H81M-K Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($52.98 @ OutletPC)Memory: G.Skill NS Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($54.98 @ Newegg)Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($65.49 @ OutletPC)Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($172.98 @ Newegg)Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.98 @ Newegg)Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($43.00 @ Newegg)Total: $601.36Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when availableGenerated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-18 11:04 EDT-0400 Intel route requires MIR's to get down below the other build, but not much higher even without them ($637.38). This also assumes you're in the contiguous U.S. LanSyndicate Build | i5-6600k | ASRock OC Formula | G.Skill 3600MHz | Samsung 850 Evo | MSI R9-290X 8GB Alphacool Block | Enthoo Pro M | XTR Pro 750w | Custom Loop | Daily | 5960X | X99 Sabertooth | G.Skill 3000MHz | 750 NVMe | 850 Evo | x2 WD Se 2TB | x2 Seagate 3TB | Sapphire R9-290X 8GB | Enthoo Primo | EVGA 1000G2 | Custom Loop | Game Box | 4690K | Z97i-Plus | G.Skill 2400MHz | x2 840 Evo | GTX 970 shorty | Corsair 250D modded with H105 | EVGA 650w B2 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 Well my budget right now is arond 500-500$ Dollars and I am from Romania . Do you have any of the parts you already listed? because I don't see how that FX-6300 build is going to come in to $500 unless you have some crazy deals in Romania :huh: LanSyndicate Build | i5-6600k | ASRock OC Formula | G.Skill 3600MHz | Samsung 850 Evo | MSI R9-290X 8GB Alphacool Block | Enthoo Pro M | XTR Pro 750w | Custom Loop | Daily | 5960X | X99 Sabertooth | G.Skill 3000MHz | 750 NVMe | 850 Evo | x2 WD Se 2TB | x2 Seagate 3TB | Sapphire R9-290X 8GB | Enthoo Primo | EVGA 1000G2 | Custom Loop | Game Box | 4690K | Z97i-Plus | G.Skill 2400MHz | x2 840 Evo | GTX 970 shorty | Corsair 250D modded with H105 | EVGA 650w B2 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 Author I meant 500-550 $ sorry and well , there is a sale for that CPU ... And I have none of the parts already listed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 Author So , which one of these 2 is the best long term investment for now ? Because my budget is limited . As in the future I will most likely upgrade it , but now I lack the funds to do so, or am I better off with an I3 ? And If I get the I3 will I be able to switch to an I7 in the future without changing the motherboard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 So you baiscally need everything or can you use an HDD from another computer to save a little? Ryzen 7 5800X3D, Corsair H105, Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite, Corsair Vengeance 32GB 3600MHz, EVGA RTX 3070Ti FTW3, Samsung 850 Pro / WD SN850 / OCZ Trion 150 ASUS MG279Q, Corsair Carbide 275R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 Author No , the HDD is the thing that broke down when it comes to the old pc , and the rest of the parts are garbage compared to those ... And unfortunately the I3 build , in Romania , would break my budget ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 No , the HDD is the thing that broke down when it comes to the old pc , and the rest of the parts are garbage compared to those ... And unfortunately the I3 build , in Romania , would break my budget ... I would go for the fx 6300... but does a 8320 breaks your budget? because thats basically top of the line for AMD.... And maybe in the future the 2 modules will help If not, the fx 6300 is fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 Author Thanks a lot guys , thank you all for your help and your time , but could you please tell me what makes the FX-6300 better than the X4 860 K ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xW7MdC Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/xW7MdC/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel Core i3-4160 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($109.98 @ NCIX US) Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Mwave) Memory: Team Elite Plus 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.49 @ OutletPC) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB Superclocked Video Card ($199.99 @ Amazon) Case: Deepcool TESSERACT BF ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.98 @ Newegg) Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ NCIX US) Total: $485.42 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-18 12:54 EDT-0400 That fit in your budget? Fine you want the PSU tier list? Have the PSU tier list: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40-rev-103/ Stille (Desktop) Ryzen 9 3900XT@4.5Ghz - Cryorig H7 Ultimate - 16GB Vengeance LPX 3000Mhz- MSI RTX 3080 Ti Ventus 3x OC - SanDisk Plus 480GB - Crucial MX500 500GB - Intel 660P 1TB SSD - (2x) WD Red 2TB - EVGA G3 650w - Corsair 760T Evoo Gaming 15" i7-9750H - 16GB DDR4 - GTX 1660Ti - 480GB SSD M.2 - 1TB 2.5" BX500 SSD VM + NAS Server (ProxMox 6.3) 1x Xeon E5-2690 v2 - 92GB ECC DDR3 - Quadro 4000 - Dell H310 HBA (Flashed with IT firmware) -500GB Crucial MX500 (Proxmox Host) Kingston 128GB SSD (FreeNAS dev/ID passthrough) - 8x4TB Toshiba N300 HDD Toys: Ender 3 Pro, Oculus Rift CV1, Oculus Quest 2, about half a dozen raspberry Pis (2b to 4), Arduino Uno, Arduino Mega, Arduino nano (x3), Arduino nano pro, Atomic Pi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 Author Well if I get the MSI Radeon R9 280 it's a little higher than my budget can handle but well I will consider it since the parts cost more here , but I want to know something , is the Intel Pentium K Anniversary G3258 better than the FX-6300 ? (Well it allows me to upgrade to I7 , but I want to know if it's better when it comes to perforamnce ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 Well if I get the MSI Radeon R9 280 it's a little higher than my budget can handle but well I will consider it since the parts cost more here , but I want to know something , is the Intel Pentium K Anniversary G3258 better than the FX-6300 ? (Well it allows me to upgrade to I7 , but I want to know if it's better when it comes to perforamnce ?) The 960 would run better then the 280, but its your pick. And I say this all the time... The FX 6300 is only a tri core with hyperthreading. The g3258 is a beast dual core that trades blows with the 6300 in almost every game. http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Pentium-G3258-vs-AMD-FX-6300 The only thing you need to realize is that some games require a quad core, or an i3 with hyperthreading, the G3258 cannot run. Also the G3258 can overclock like a boss with the stock cooler. I've seen them up around 4.5Ghz and at that point, even with both overclocked, the Pentium still goes over the 6300. So if you can swing it, get the i3, if not, get the G3258 and upgrade later to an i3 or i5. Hope that helps! Fine you want the PSU tier list? Have the PSU tier list: https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40-rev-103/ Stille (Desktop) Ryzen 9 3900XT@4.5Ghz - Cryorig H7 Ultimate - 16GB Vengeance LPX 3000Mhz- MSI RTX 3080 Ti Ventus 3x OC - SanDisk Plus 480GB - Crucial MX500 500GB - Intel 660P 1TB SSD - (2x) WD Red 2TB - EVGA G3 650w - Corsair 760T Evoo Gaming 15" i7-9750H - 16GB DDR4 - GTX 1660Ti - 480GB SSD M.2 - 1TB 2.5" BX500 SSD VM + NAS Server (ProxMox 6.3) 1x Xeon E5-2690 v2 - 92GB ECC DDR3 - Quadro 4000 - Dell H310 HBA (Flashed with IT firmware) -500GB Crucial MX500 (Proxmox Host) Kingston 128GB SSD (FreeNAS dev/ID passthrough) - 8x4TB Toshiba N300 HDD Toys: Ender 3 Pro, Oculus Rift CV1, Oculus Quest 2, about half a dozen raspberry Pis (2b to 4), Arduino Uno, Arduino Mega, Arduino nano (x3), Arduino nano pro, Atomic Pi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 Author Thanks a lot to all of you guys , you helped a lot ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 So , which one of these 2 is the best long term investment for now ? Because my budget is limited . As in the future I will most likely upgrade it , but now I lack the funds to do so, or am I better off with an I3 ? And If I get the I3 will I be able to switch to an I7 in the future without changing the motherboard? Yes. Buy an i3-4130 + H81/B85 mobo to get the best performance now, and easy upgrade path in the future. "I genuinely dislike the promulgation of false information, especially to people who are asking for help selecting new parts." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 18, 2015 Yes. Buy an i3-4130 + H81/B85 mobo to get the best performance now, and easy upgrade path in the future. I have this, 4130 and ASRock B85M. Good combo. Ryzen 7 5800X3D, Corsair H105, Gigabyte x570 Aorus Elite, Corsair Vengeance 32GB 3600MHz, EVGA RTX 3070Ti FTW3, Samsung 850 Pro / WD SN850 / OCZ Trion 150 ASUS MG279Q, Corsair Carbide 275R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 19, 2015 Author Got 1 more question , is the AM3+ socket dead? Or will they be releasing some new CPUs for that socket in the future ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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