Dual core for gaming

[karl0508]

Hey guys

 

This is my first build, so please bare in mind i'm willing to OC but having never done it before worried about it. 

 

I want to use this pc for gaming on things like BF4 and the new Assassins creed.

 

in 2015 is an I3 4160 dual core still a good choice??? I have £500 to spend on the system including a montior

 

Here are the two builds i came up with

1) AMD

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Kj8kyc

 

2) Intel

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/cJ6VRB

 

Which would be best, or would anyone suggest a better one???  

 

The reason i fall more AMD is its a quad core, my original plan was build a cheap AMD this year then when Skylake comes out get a new mobo and cpu to replace the AMD, i don't really want to be changing CPU in 6 months.

[Tim Drake]

The intel build looks great

 

TECHNICALLY the i3 is a quad core.

 

HOLY JESUS WHY DO YOU HAVE A Z97 WITH AN I3 @karl0508

[Atmos]

For a gaming pc, the intel is better. Technically, you'll get better fps in most cases with the amd build, as you can run the cpu and gpu in crossfire of sorts giving you more graphics horse power, but what you can do is go with the intel build, and start saving up cash. As soon as you have a bit saved up go get a better graphics card. 

 

The intel build has an upgrade path later on, w/o much hassle. 

 

The amd build doesn't have much of an upgrade path w/o major changes.

[XTankSlayerX]

The intel build looks great

 

TECHNICALLY the i3 is a quad core.

 

HOLY JESUS WHY DO YOU HAVE A Z97 WITH AN I3 @karl0508

I have a i3 with a Z77 mobo... Same thing essentially eh?

 

Speaking of, I have a 3220, and it performs well and bottlenecks a 770 @ 80FPS on Battlefield.

[Tim Drake]

I have a i3 with a Z77 mobo... Same thing essentially eh?

 

Speaking of, I have a 3220, and it performs well and bottlenecks a 770 @ 80FPS on Battlefield.

I suppose it gives you and him an awesome upgrade path but it looks like he could save money and get a better GPU..

[Lolzious]

I would switch the i3 for a G2358, which could leave room for a 270/x maybeee?

[karl0508]

For a gaming pc, the intel is better. Technically, you'll get better fps in most cases with the amd build, as you can run the cpu and gpu in crossfire of sorts giving you more graphics horse power, but what you can do is go with the intel build, and start saving up cash. As soon as you have a bit saved up go get a better graphics card. 

 

The intel build has an upgrade path later on, w/o much hassle. 

 

The amd build doesn't have much of an upgrade path w/o major changes.

 

So your suggestion would be an Intel build??????

[Fate]

For a gaming pc, the intel is better. Technically, you'll get better fps in most cases with the amd build, as you can run the cpu and gpu in crossfire of sorts giving you more graphics horse power, but what you can do is go with the intel build, and start saving up cash. As soon as you have a bit saved up go get a better graphics card. 

???

860k has no iGPU, so no he cannot...

 

 

@karl0508 yes the Haswell i3's are very good for gaming.

[karl0508]

I would switch the i3 for a G2358, which could leave room for a 270/x maybeee?

 

I dont like the Pentium because i lacks hyper threading 

[karl0508]

The intel build looks great

 

TECHNICALLY the i3 is a quad core.

 

HOLY JESUS WHY DO YOU HAVE A Z97 WITH AN I3 @karl0508

 

Because i'm unsure if i went intel to go xeon or i7 next

[Tim Drake]

I would switch the i3 for a G2358, which could leave room for a 270/x maybeee?

No.

Just no.

[Tim Drake]

Because i'm unsure if i went intel to go xeon or i7 next

Yeah I noticed that in my next post it was just an initial reaction

[karl0508]

???

860k has no iGPU, so no he cannot...

 

 

@karl0508 yes the Haswell i3's are very good for gaming.

 

 

Would the i3 be the best performer in newer game even though everything's going quad?

[XTankSlayerX]

I suppose it gives you and him an awesome upgrade path but it looks like he could save money and get a better GPU..

Yeah, It was suppose to have a i7 in it, but the i3 is surpisingly good...

 

Also i bought my second GPU (770) a year after i made the base system

 

The 7750 held out well ish. But the 770 is where the shiz is at

 

Would the i3 be the best performer in newer game even though everything's going quad?

I beleive Intel is better then AMD At this price point, so i think its a good idea to go with the i3.

[karl0508]

Yeah I noticed that in my next post it was just an initial reaction

 

Lol

 

So the problem i have is do i go AMD and overclock?? Or do i go intel?? to be honest i've never pc gamed and thought that if i do and don't like it the AMD would be a better chip for other things as its quad core

[Tim Drake]

Lol

 

So the problem i have is do i go AMD and overclock?? Or do i go intel?? to be honest i've never pc gamed and thought that if i do and don't like it the AMD would be a better chip for other things as its quad core

Go intel as the i3 has hyper threading so is considered a quad core.

 

And the single core performance that intel has compared to AMD is ridiculous..

[Faceman]

An i3 is an excellent budget gaming processor, but I think you do have room for an i5,

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/WRTT3C
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/WRTT3C/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£141.92 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 V2 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£38.17 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£50.39 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£42.97 @ CCL Computers)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 260X 2GB Core Edition Video Card  (£83.99 @ Scan.co.uk)
Case: Cooler Master K280 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£21.48 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Enermax NAXN ADV. 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£43.44 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: V7 LED215W2R-8N 75Hz 21.5" Monitor  (£74.92 @ Amazon UK)
Keyboard: HP DT528AT#ABA Wired Standard Keyboard  (£9.50 @ Amazon UK)
Mouse: Logitech M325 Wireless Optical Mouse  (Purchased For £0.00)
Total: £506.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[karl0508]

Go intel as the i3 has hyper threading so is considered a quad core.

 

And the single core performance that intel has compared to AMD is ridiculous..

 

It so confusing lol

 

I just wanted a decent pc to game, some people suggested the A10 then the 860k and now i3 

 

What do you mean considered a quad core?

[karl0508]

An i3 is an excellent budget gaming processor, but I think you do have room for an i5,

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/WRTT3C

Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/WRTT3C/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£141.92 @ CCL Computers)

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 V2 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£38.17 @ Scan.co.uk)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£50.39 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£42.97 @ CCL Computers)

Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 260X 2GB Core Edition Video Card  (£83.99 @ Scan.co.uk)

Case: Cooler Master K280 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£21.48 @ Amazon UK)

Power Supply: Enermax NAXN ADV. 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£43.44 @ Amazon UK)

Monitor: V7 LED215W2R-8N 75Hz 21.5" Monitor  (£74.92 @ Amazon UK)

Keyboard: HP DT528AT#ABA Wired Standard Keyboard  (£9.50 @ Amazon UK)

Mouse: Logitech M325 Wireless Optical Mouse  (Purchased For £0.00)

Total: £506.78

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-10 07:16 GMT+0000

 

 

Isn't a h81 a bad board choice tho?

[Tim Drake]

An i3 is an excellent budget gaming processor, but I think you do have room for an i5,

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/WRTT3C

Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/WRTT3C/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4440 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor  (£141.92 @ CCL Computers)

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 V2 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£38.17 @ Scan.co.uk)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£50.39 @ Amazon UK)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£42.97 @ CCL Computers)

Video Card: XFX Radeon R7 260X 2GB Core Edition Video Card  (£83.99 @ Scan.co.uk)

Case: Cooler Master K280 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£21.48 @ Amazon UK)

Power Supply: Enermax NAXN ADV. 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£43.44 @ Amazon UK)

Monitor: V7 LED215W2R-8N 75Hz 21.5" Monitor  (£74.92 @ Amazon UK)

Keyboard: HP DT528AT#ABA Wired Standard Keyboard  (£9.50 @ Amazon UK)

Mouse: Logitech M325 Wireless Optical Mouse  (Purchased For £0.00)

Total: £506.78

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-10 07:16 GMT+0000

No I disagree. I would prefer him to have an i3 and a better GPU..

[Tim Drake]

Isn't a h81 a bad board choice tho?

Depends which board but generally, no.

[Fate]

Would the i3 be the best performer in newer game even though everything's going quad?

Out of the two yes, but something like an i5 will definitely be better a lot of the time, especially with high end (290(x)/970 and up) GPU's (with low end GPU's like 260x/270 you probably won't notice the difference between an i3 and i5, not 100% sure though). 

According to the Steam Hardware Survey for 2015, 48% of their users are on dual cores, so I doubt they'll be phasing out soon.

[Tim Drake]

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/7K3QNG

Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/7K3QNG/by_merchant/

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  (£84.12 @ Aria PC) 

Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 V2 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (£38.17 @ Scan.co.uk) 

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (£50.39 @ Amazon UK) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£42.97 @ CCL Computers) 

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card  (£139.98 @ Amazon UK) 

Case: Cooler Master K280 ATX Mid Tower Case  (£21.48 @ Amazon UK) 

Power Supply: Enermax NAXN ADV. 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£43.44 @ Amazon UK) 

Monitor: V7 LED215W2R-8N 75Hz 21.5" Monitor  (£74.92 @ Amazon UK) 

Keyboard: HP DT528AT#ABA Wired Standard Keyboard  (£9.50 @ Amazon UK) 

Mouse: Logitech M325 Wireless Optical Mouse  (Purchased For £0.00) 

Total: £504.97

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-03-10 07:19 GMT+0000

 

Then next upgrade can be to an i7 or i5

[karl0508]

Depends which board but generally, no.

 

 

I think i'd be better with the z97 tho??? i have seen a z87 for £50

[karl0508]

Out of the two yes, but something like an i5 will definitely be better a lot of the time, especially with high end (290(x)/970 and up) GPU's (with low end GPU's like 260x/270 you probably won't notice the difference between an i3 and i5, not 100% sure though). 

According to the Steam Hardware Survey for 2015, 48% of their users are on dual cores, so I doubt they'll be phasing out soon.

 

 

But arent games like DGI only quad core?