Posted January 27, 2015 Ok guys so...i am upgrading my pc for day or two,and i just need your opinion.i have 2 combinations: i7 4790 ASrock h97 pro 4 Corsair Spec 03 (554$) I5 4690k ASrock z97 extreme 4 Corsair spec 03 (576 $) So as you can see i7 will be cheaper but i need as good performance for gaming as posible.ofc i took better mobo for i5 since i would overclock but i wouldn't oc i7.So what do u thing what is better,oc-ed i5 or locked i7 for gaming.And i will save some pennys.thx and sorry for my poor eng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 I would go with the i5. i7 locked does't allow you to overclock. The difference between an i5 and i7 is, i7 supports hyper threading. EDIT: Go with the i7 if you don't care to overclocking & dump the extra money into your GPU. blackshades on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 They will be just as good in most games (besides a very select few). It doesn't really matter, hyperthreading and overclocking mostly balance out (game that support more threads will generally be a little bit better on the i7). how overpriced is alienware? 2.0 htc one m8 review anker mouse review razer kraken pro review lenovo yoga 11s review how overpriced is alienware? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 An overclocked i5 would be better for gaming (in most games); but you can also possibly find a cheaper Z97 motherboard. Something like an MSI Z97 PC Mate is usually quite a bit cheaper (has XFIRE support but no SLI support). PSU Tier List | CoC Gaming Build | FreeNAS Server Spoiler i5-4690k || Seidon 240m || GTX780 ACX || MSI Z97s SLI Plus || 8GB 2400mhz || 250GB 840 Evo || 1TB WD Blue || H440 (Black/Blue) || Windows 10 Pro || Dell P2414H & BenQ XL2411Z || Ducky Shine Mini || Logitech G502 Proteus Core Spoiler FreeNAS 9.3 - Stable || Xeon E3 1230v2 || Supermicro X9SCM-F || 32GB Crucial ECC DDR3 || 3x4TB WD Red (JBOD) || SYBA SI-PEX40064 sata controller || Corsair CX500m || NZXT Source 210. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 The i7 out performs the i5, so it's a much better deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 The i7 out performs the i5, so it's a much better deal. yeah but i7 no k version is such a waste :L, like buying a dog with no tail Current Build : CASE: Fractal Design R4 w/Window CPU: Intel 4930K, RAM: 16GB Ripjaws Z 2133Mhz Cooling: H100i MotherBoard: Asus P9x79 Pro , PSU: CS750M Storage: 2x Samsung 840 Pro 256Gb , 1Tb Seagate Barracuda, 500GB WD Black, Graphics: Gigabyte GTX 780 Windforce 3GB, Monitors: AOC G2460PG ( G sync monitor), Edge10 24" 1080p , 24" 1680*1020p monitor ( LCD) Microphone: Blue Yeti Keyboard: Cougar 700k Phone: Samsung Note 3 Headphones: Sennheiser HD598 Laptop: CPU: 4710MQ Ram: 8GB 1600MHz Storage:120Gb 840 Evo + 1Tb 5400Rpm HDD Graphics: GTX 850M 2GB Screen: 1080p IPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 yeah but i7 no k version is such a waste :L, like buying a dog with no tail What's wrong with a Welsh Corgi? Main Rig: CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) KLEVV CRAS XR RGB DDR4-3600 | Motherboard: Gigabyte B550I AORUS PRO AX | Storage: 512GB SKHynix PC401, 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus, 2x Micron 1100 256GB SATA SSDs | GPU: EVGA RTX 3080 FTW3 Ultra 10GB | Cooling: ThermalTake Floe 280mm w/ be quiet! Pure Wings 3 | Case: Sliger SM580 (Black) | PSU: Lian Li SP 850W Server: CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 3100 | RAM: 32GB (2x16GB) Crucial DDR4 Pro | Motherboard: ASUS PRIME B550-PLUS AC-HES | Storage: 128GB Samsung PM961, 4TB Seagate IronWolf | GPU: AMD FirePro WX 3100 | Cooling: EK-AIO Elite 360 D-RGB | Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow (White) | PSU: Seasonic Focus GM-850 Miscellaneous: Dell Optiplex 7060 Micro (i5-8500T/16GB/512GB), Lenovo ThinkCentre M715q Tiny (R5 2400GE/16GB/256GB), Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF (i5-6400/8GB/128GB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 yeah but i7 no k version is such a waste :L, like buying a dog with no tail True. It depends on whether or not he's gonna overclock. At stock the i7 beats the i5 by a touch, so for it being cheaper (not much of an overclocker) that's what I would go for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 Author I am just more confused now lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 An overclocked i5 would be better for gaming (in most games); but you can also possibly find a cheaper Z97 motherboard. Something like an MSI Z97 PC Mate is usually quite a bit cheaper (has XFIRE support but no SLI support). Or msi z97 gaming 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 i7 isnt worth it purely for gaming. Keep in mind an i3 runs most games quite fast , imagine a unlocked i5. My Deus Ex Review : http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/358415-zappian-plays-old-games-episode-1-deus-ex/#entry4862793 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 Author Or msi z97 gaming 3I want blue mobo,and why is locked i7 bad???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 I want blue mobo,and why is locked i7 bad???? Because most games don't use more than 4 threads anyway so 4 faster cores vs. 8 slower threads when a game can only use less than 4 (some can use more, but most can't). Also, MSI Z97 PC Mate is blue, as is MSI G55 SLI, and MSI Z97s SLI Plus. PSU Tier List | CoC Gaming Build | FreeNAS Server Spoiler i5-4690k || Seidon 240m || GTX780 ACX || MSI Z97s SLI Plus || 8GB 2400mhz || 250GB 840 Evo || 1TB WD Blue || H440 (Black/Blue) || Windows 10 Pro || Dell P2414H & BenQ XL2411Z || Ducky Shine Mini || Logitech G502 Proteus Core Spoiler FreeNAS 9.3 - Stable || Xeon E3 1230v2 || Supermicro X9SCM-F || 32GB Crucial ECC DDR3 || 3x4TB WD Red (JBOD) || SYBA SI-PEX40064 sata controller || Corsair CX500m || NZXT Source 210. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 Author Because most games don't use more than 4 threads anyway so 4 faster cores vs. 8 slower threads when a game can only use less than 4 (some can use more, but most can't). Also, MSI Z97 PC Mate is blue, as is MSI G55 SLI, and MSI Z97s SLI Plus. Yeah but i7 stock speed is a bit better than i5 and i will not oc i5 at least few mouths and if i would i would oc max 4.3-4.4ghz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 Yeah but i7 stock speed is a bit better than i5 and i will not oc i5 at least few mouths and if i would i would oc max 4.3-4.4ghz The the i7 then. PSU Tier List | CoC Gaming Build | FreeNAS Server Spoiler i5-4690k || Seidon 240m || GTX780 ACX || MSI Z97s SLI Plus || 8GB 2400mhz || 250GB 840 Evo || 1TB WD Blue || H440 (Black/Blue) || Windows 10 Pro || Dell P2414H & BenQ XL2411Z || Ducky Shine Mini || Logitech G502 Proteus Core Spoiler FreeNAS 9.3 - Stable || Xeon E3 1230v2 || Supermicro X9SCM-F || 32GB Crucial ECC DDR3 || 3x4TB WD Red (JBOD) || SYBA SI-PEX40064 sata controller || Corsair CX500m || NZXT Source 210. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 If you are going to OC the i5 is the easy pick for a gaming only rig but if you don't want to OC I would take the i7. Although If you wanted to save some money and didn't want to OC you could consider a locked i5 setup and put the money into a GPU if you were planning on buying one... i7s are hard to recommend if you only game IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 If you are going to OC the i5 is the easy pick for a gaming only rig but if you don't want to OC I would take the i7. Although If you wanted to save some money and didn't want to OC you could consider a locked i5 setup and put the money into a GPU if you were planning on buying one... i7s are hard to recommend if you only game IMO. The OP just needs to keep in mind that oced i5 wins against a locked i7 in games because most games dont use more than 4 threads. My Deus Ex Review : http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/358415-zappian-plays-old-games-episode-1-deus-ex/#entry4862793 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 Author If you are going to OC the i5 is the easy pick for a gaming only rig but if you don't want to OC I would take the i7. Although If you wanted to save some money and didn't want to OC you could consider a locked i5 setup and put the money into a GPU if you were planning on buying one... i7s are hard to recommend if you only game IMO.Well i would oc a just a lil bit bit gaming is kinda all i do for now but who knows maybe i will stream/edit etc soo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 Well i would oc a just a lil bit bit gaming is kinda all i do for now but who knows maybe i will stream/edit etc soo You would have to decide how serious you were about streaming/editing and if its worth the price to you, for basic/casual editing the i5 would be fine and when streaming you can use Intel quick-sync or Shadowplay with an Nvidia card (not sure if AMD has an equivalent) but at lower bitrates x264 CPU encoding does tend to be better quality. IMO with a gaming focus and/or casual streaming/editing I would go with either an unlocked i5 or locked i5 + some spare cash but if you were serious about streaming/editing you may find some benefit to having a i7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 If you are not really into overclocking, just get an e3 1230/1 v3 xeon ( Its basically a locked i7 priced like the i5, also no onboard graphics ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 nvm i would pick the i7 all day long personaly. Look if the xeon E3-1231V3 would be cheaper it's the same CPU pretty much and often cheaper. | CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v | Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING | CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 | | GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC | RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz | | Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 2 VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 Author nvm i would pick the i7 all day long personaly. Look if the xeon E3-1231V3 would be cheaper it's the same CPU pretty much and often cheaper. I think iwill get i7 since it is cheaper and i have more "cores" for anything in future.I don't care for 2-5% performance boost but i care for 100$+ more for that few percent.ps can someone post i5 4690k oc-ed around 4.4-4.5 and i7 4790? That would help me a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 I think iwill get i7 since it is cheaper and i have more "cores" for anything in future.I don't care for 2-5% performance boost but i care for 100$+ more for that few percent the i7 will last you longer IMHO...it depends where games are going but just about every games that launched in 2014 use more than 4 CPU threads if you happen to have them...IMHO that says a lot about the future as well...the new consoles are out now and they have multi-thread chips inside...directx12 and windows 10 are also around the corner and those will also greatly improve performance on multi-core (multi-threads CPU's)...a lot of people in the i5 bandwagon, i'm not one of them and i love my processor, when i turn HT off in my bios the system is not as responsive and some of the more demanding games won't run as smooth anymore even with a noticeable overclock. All i can say is do your own research and go with what you feel would be best for you...some will think that 4 threads will be enough for a while provided you can get a substantial overclock...others think that 6 or 8 threaded games will become the norm (it already is honestly) so go with what you feel is best for you...if you think you'd have more fun learning CPU overclocking maybe you'd be better with the i5, if that is not something you are interested about than hands down the i7 would suit you best. Good luck! | CPU: Core i7-8700K @ 4.89ghz - 1.21v | Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING | CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i V2 | | GPU: MSI RTX 3080Ti Ventus 3X OC | RAM: 32GB T-Force Delta RGB 3066mhz | | Displays: Acer Predator XB270HU 1440p Gsync 144hz IPS Gaming monitor | Oculus Quest 2 VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 Author the i7 will last you longer IMHO...it depends where games are going but just about every games that launched in 2014 use more than 4 CPU threads if you happen to have them...IMHO that says a lot about the future as well...the new consoles are out now and they have multi-thread chips inside...directx12 and windows 10 are also around the corner and those will also greatly improve performance on multi-core (multi-threads CPU's)...a lot of people in the i5 bandwagon, i'm not one of them and i love my processor, when i turn HT off in my bios the system is not as responsive and some of the more demanding games won't run as smooth anymore even with a noticeable overclock. All i can say is do your own research and go with what you feel would be best for you...some will think that 4 threads will be enough for a while provided you can get a substantial overclock...others think that 6 or 8 threaded games will become the norm (it already is honestly) so go with what you feel is best for you...if you think you'd have more fun learning CPU overclocking maybe you'd be better with the i5, if that is not something you are interested about than hands down the i7 would suit you best. Good luck! Thanks a lot bro this helpt me a lot.that is just what i was thinking cuz hyper threading is more and more used so it may give me some extra power in future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 27, 2015 the i7 will last you longer IMHO...it depends where games are going but just about every games that launched in 2014 use more than 4 CPU threads if you happen to have them...IMHO that says a lot about the future as well...the new consoles are out now and they have multi-thread chips inside...directx12 and windows 10 are also around the corner and those will also greatly improve performance on multi-core (multi-threads CPU's)...a lot of people in the i5 bandwagon, i'm not one of them and i love my processor, when i turn HT off in my bios the system is not as responsive and some of the more demanding games won't run as smooth anymore even with a noticeable overclock. All i can say is do your own research and go with what you feel would be best for you...some will think that 4 threads will be enough for a while provided you can get a substantial overclock...others think that 6 or 8 threaded games will become the norm (it already is honestly) so go with what you feel is best for you...if you think you'd have more fun learning CPU overclocking maybe you'd be better with the i5, if that is not something you are interested about than hands down the i7 would suit you best. Good luck! Is it worth getting a I7 4790k not for OCing but gaming and streaming/skype? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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