Best AMD Cpu vs Intel i7 980

[79wjd]

I was just thinking about upgrade paths. The Asus Bioard is only Micro ATX, no M.2 or Sata E and lacked some heatsinks and no CFX/SLI goodness.

It's also a budget option at only $40~. 

 

And you could always get an M.2 to PCIe adapter card (and Sata Express is NEVER going to become the mainstream....it's like blu rays (M.2) vs. HD DVDs (Sata-E)). 

[I/O]

It's also a budget option at only $40~. 

 

And you could always get an M.2 to PCIe adapter card (and Sata Express is NEVER going to become the mainstream....it's like blu rays (M.2) vs. HD DVDs (Sata-E)). 

I don't think budget options are even saving you money rather they are just limiting because when you want to upgrade you have to throw away the motherboard and buy a new one. That's why I sprung for a feature rich Z97X board and did not go with AMD. Also the Asus board you linked is $110 bucks.

[79wjd]

I don't think budget options are even saving you money rather they are just limiting because when you want to upgrade you have to throw away the motherboard and buy a new one. That's why I sprung for a feature rich Z97X board and did not go with AMD. Also the Asus board you linked is $110 bucks.

Most people never go with multi-gpu configs, they usually stick to a single card and just upgrade it, and when you're on a very tight budget the extra $30+ you need to pay in order to get XFIRE support (and $80~ to get SLI support) could be the difference between making the build work within the budget or not.

The asus H81 board is $44.

[I/O]

Most people never go with multi-gpu configs, they usually stick to a single card and just upgrade it, and when you're on a very tight budget the extra $30+ you need to pay in order to get XFIRE support (and $80~ to get SLI support) could be the difference between making the build work within the budget or not.

The asus H81 board is $44.

H81 is $65 bucks and is disgusting LOL. Weres the heatsinks LOL ? no upgrade paths no features no OCing LOL might as well go AMD LOL.

[79wjd]

H81 is $65 bucks and is disgusting LOL. Weres the heatsinks LOL ? no upgrade paths no features no OCing LOL might as well go AMD LOL.

A locked i5 will beat a FX9590 in gaming, a locked i5 doesn't actually need VRM heatsinks, a locked i5 physically can't overclock, and it's the best option on an extremely tight budget. Not to mention it still offers an upgrade path into a locked i7. 

 

And the only other "features" one might need is: 

• M.2 support (which can be done over a PCIE slot anyway) 
• XFIRE/SLI support -- which can't be had unless you spend $30-$80 more, which could easily push the setup out of someone's budget. And again, not to mention, most people NEVER have more than one gpu. 

[I/O]

 

A locked i5 will beat a FX9590 in gaming, ...

Perhaps I went a bit to far on that one LOL. AMD is never good for a gaming build LOL.

 

 

• XFIRE/SLI support -- which can't be had unless you spend $30-$80 more, which could easily push the setup out of someone's budget. And again, not to mention, most people NEVER have more than one gpu. 

 

Most people are computer dunces and think silly things like CFX/SLI is useless because Vram does not stack LOL. What they fail to understand is that the only thing better than one 980 is two and that two mid range cards are often faster than one high end and cheaper.

[79wjd]

Perhaps I went a bit to far on that one LOL. AMD is never good for a gaming build LOL.

Most people are computer dunces and think silly things like CFX/SLI is useless because Vram does not stack LOL. What they fail to understand is that the only thing better than one 980 is two and that two mid range cards are often faster than one high end and cheaper.

Except two mid range cards usually aren't better than one high end card -- they're on par but add another complication and a dependancy on SLI/XFIRE. SLI 760s is comparable to a single 780 -- price wise the two are similar, but SLI 760s requires a slightly larger psu, adds a secondary complication, requires a more expensive motherboard, AND means you can't just add another card in the future to make things faster. 

 

But again, assuming there is room in the budget I would always opt for an SLI capable motherboard just in case, but there are some times when the build is already barely affordable with an H81 board and doesn't have things like an ssd/a high end case that can be scrapped and put towards better performance. 

[I/O]

Except two mid range cards usually aren't better than one high end card -- they're on par but add another complication and a dependancy on SLI/XFIRE. SLI 760s is comparable to a single 780 -- price wise the two are similar, but SLI 760s requires a slightly larger psu, adds a secondary complication, requires a more expensive motherboard, AND means you can't just add another card in the future to make things faster. 

 

But again, assuming there is room in the budget I would always opt for an SLI capable motherboard just in case, but there are some times when the build is already barely affordable with an H81 board and doesn't have things like an ssd/a high end case that can be scrapped and put towards better performance. 

In Canada R9 280s are goging for a mid range price of $229 x 2 = $458. Cheapest 980 is $609.

[79wjd]

In Canada R9 280s are goging for a mid range price of $229 x 2 = $458. Cheapest 980 is $609.

Thats an awful example as Nvidia cards have always been more expensive than their AMD counterparts (ignoring mining hype). Two 760s vs. one 780, two 270xs vs. one 290x, presumably two 960s vs. one 980....these are the comparisons that need to be made. 

 

In the US two R9 280s is about $400, whereas 290xs can be had for $300 -- not exactly in the same price point, not to mention the 280x build requires a more expensive psu, motherboard, and good XFIRE scaling (which isn't always a thing). 

 

two 270xs on the other hand will be similar in performance to a single 290x, cost a similar amount yet add a whole slew of complications. 

[I/O]

Thats an awful example as Nvidia cards have always been more expensive than their AMD counterparts (ignoring mining hype).

It's a prime example of what I am talking about. Also it was not Mining Hype it was actual market value of the Radeon cards at the time because they were hard core money making tools for the few that were so inclined finacially and mentally and with the space and time needed to set up a money making GPU farm.

 

 

 

 

 not to mention the 280x build requires a more expensive psu, motherboard, and good XFIRE scaling (which isn't always a thing). 

 

Those looking into CFX/SLI already have the required hardware. I don't know why people would waste money on a shit 500watt PSU, crappy motherboard with no extra features, Cheap case  etc ... It's like get off your ass and get to work you bum instead of hoping and wishing for better hardware and playing games on some shit ass hardware when you should be out there IRL working to upgrade to what you want LOL.

[79wjd]

 

It's a prime example of what I am talking about. Also it was not Mining Hype it was actual market value of the Radeon cards at the time because they were hard core money making tools for the few that were so inclined finacially and mentally and with the space and time needed to set up a money making GPU farm.

 

 

 

Those looking into CFX/SLI already have the required hardware. I don't know why people would waste money on a shit 500watt PSU, crappy motherboard with no extra features, Cheap case  etc ... It's like get off your ass and get to work you bum instead of hoping and wishing for better hardware and playing games on some shit ass hardware when you should be out there IRL working to upgrade to what you want LOL.

 

I guess you just don't understand what "tight" budget means. 

[Dabombinable]

Perhaps I went a bit to far on that one LOL. AMD is never good for a gaming build LOL.

Most people are computer dunces and think silly things like CFX/SLI is useless because Vram does not stack LOL. What they fail to understand is that the only thing better than one 980 is two and that two mid range cards are often faster than one high end and cheaper.

SLI and Crossfire are useless if you intend on only using a single graphics card that is worth a damn, or if you will be unable to actually buy an identical Nvidia graphics card due to the price.

 

 

 

It's a prime example of what I am talking about. Also it was not Mining Hype it was actual market value of the Radeon cards at the time because they were hard core money making tools for the few that were so inclined finacially and mentally and with the space and time needed to set up a money making GPU farm.

 

 

 

Those looking into CFX/SLI already have the required hardware. I don't know why people would waste money on a shit 500watt PSU, crappy motherboard with no extra features, Cheap case  etc ... It's like get off your ass and get to work you bum instead of hoping and wishing for better hardware and playing games on some shit ass hardware when you should be out there IRL working to upgrade to what you want LOL.

 

You honestly have no clue do you about what your talking about.

[I/O]

I guess you just don't understand what "tight" budget means. 

Ya it means get off your fucking ass and get to work you BUM. Not you but a hypotheticall lazy ass gamer whom is glued to their chair.

[I/O]

SLI and Crossfire are useless if you intend on only using a single graphics card that is worth a damn, or if you will be unable to actually buy an identical Nvidia graphics card due to the price.

 

 

You honestly have no clue do you about what your talking about.

WTF are you on about. If you are only intersted in single card gaming then you are not looking at CFX/SLI. Your bloody ignorant and rude man. Some of us want two or 3 cards that are worth a dam because we want smooth framerates and like to run lots of AA and ultra setting @ high resolution. If your just a console peasent getting their feet wet in the PC gaming world then ya one card will be enough for them to start out.

[Dabombinable]

Ya it means get off your fucking ass and get to work you BUM. Not you but a hypotheticall lazy ass gamer whom is glued to their chair.

I work my fucking ass off paving and concreting in 40^oC heat for $450 (edit: a week, should have clarified) with having to pay a shitload of bills. So those of us on a budget are 'lazy ass gamers'? Piss off.

[Dabombinable]

WTF are you on about. If you are only intersted in single card gaming then you are not looking at CFX/SLI. Your bloody ignorant and rude man. Some of us want two or 3 cards that are worth a dam because we want smooth framerates and like to run lots of AA and ultra setting @ high resolution. If your just a console peasent getting their feet wet in the PC gaming world then ya one card will be enough for them to start out.

You are an ignorant ass. Unless your gaming at 4k, a single GTX 970 can play games at high settings at 2K with AA.

[Ialyrn]

Ya it means get off your fucking ass and get to work you BUM. Not you but a hypotheticall lazy ass gamer whom is glued to their chair.

 Just because someone might have a tight budget, doesn't mean they spend every waking moment sat in a computer chair playing games. That is just a plain ignorant view. People can have tight budgets for any multitude of reasons, usually been only kids and not able to get a proper job like an adult can. Or if they are an adult, they can have their own place, wife and 2.4 kids, cars and other vehicles to keep on the road, all the bills that come from having a roof over ones head, and so on.

[SoftenButterCream]

Ya it means get off your fucking ass and get to work you BUM. Not you but a hypotheticall lazy ass gamer whom is glued to their chair.

Lazy ass gamer? I myself is a college student working minimum wage trying to help pay monthly rents, gas, and electricity bills. So if you think most people build budget builds cause they are lazy then you are retarded as fuck

[I/O]

I work my fucking ass off paving and concreting in 40^oC heat for $450 with having to pay a shitload of bills. So those of us on a budget are 'lazy ass gamers'? Piss off.

Not saying you personally. I am saying that some gamers are dam lazy ass weed smoking, junk food eating, welfare check collecting Bums. I respect people that honestly and deligently work for the things they want and need. I put in a 100 extra hrs of hard work to pay for my Z97X and 4690K upgrade and while still maintaining a quality of life that I comand.

[SoftenButterCream]

Not saying you personally. I am saying that some gamers are dam lazy ass weed smoking, junk food eating, welfare check collecting Bums. I respect people that honestly and deligently work for the things they want and need. I put in a 100 extra hrs of hard work to pay for my Z97X and 4690K upgrade and while still maintaining a quality of life that I comand.

Good for you. But some of us don't have access to that certain amount of money even if they do work hard. Some work hard but dont want to waste their whole hard earned paycheck on a funding a conputer

[I/O]

Lazy ass gamer? I myself is a college student working minimum wage trying to help pay monthly rents, gas, and electricity bills. So if you think most people build budget builds cause they are lazy then you are retarded as fuck

Then you sir i commend on working toward a sustainable future for yourself and upgrading your knowlage and skills. I am talking about the lazy few that live in their grandmas basement collecting a welfare check while they eat junk food and play games and watch porn all night and sleep all day LOL. Then they complain that hardware is so expensive and games are not optimized cause they cant play them properly on thier 5 years old rigs that they bought when they actually had a day job LOL.

[SoftenButterCream]

Then you sir i commend on working toward a sustainable future for yourself and upgrading your knowlage and skills. I am talking about the lazy few that live in their grandmas basement collecting a welfare check while they eat junk food and play games and watch porn all night and sleep all day LOL. Then they complain that hardware is so expensive and games are not optimized cause they cant play them properly on thier 5 years old rigs that they bought when they actually had a day job LOL.

And you sir need to continue to work hard and work on your attitude

[I/O]

But some of us don't have access to that certain amount of money even if they do work hard.

That's a sad excuse though. You can always make more money if you really want to. Or you can budget better and cut out and simplify the uneeded extras.

[I/O]

And you sir need to continue to work hard and work on your attitude

My attitude is fine. I just have an issue when people try and bring me down because they say silliy nonsense things.

[SoftenButterCream]

That's a sad excuse though. You can always make more money if you really want to. Or you can budget better and cut out and simplify the uneeded extras.

Ok i'll agree with you on this one as they could save up.