FX 4300 Not good enough for Batman Arkham Origins

[I/O]

Bottom line though, this is all great fun but the op having a hard time running batman on an FX-4300 CPU it's not the CPU' fault i have played that game and it's really not cpu intensive at all a core 2 duo would run this butter smooth so there's got to be something else causing is issue.

OP if you've read this far make sure your AMD Chipset driver is correctly installed...at first when i got my FX i had issues and this was causing it...once i installed this it went much better.

I had what I personally consider frame rate issue in Batman AO on my old Phenom II x4 955 as it would drop below 60fps and sometimes stay there for awhile. Switched to Intel and the performance is amazing now in Batman AO and many of my other games.

[Guest Console Peasant]

Bottom line though, this is all great fun but the op having a hard time running batman on an FX-4300 CPU it's not the CPU' fault i have played that game and it's really not cpu intensive at all a core 2 duo would run this butter smooth so there's got to be something else causing is issue.

OP if you've read this far make sure your AMD Chipset driver is correctly installed...at first when i got my FX i had issues and this was causing it...once i installed this it went much better.

i think ive installed the latest chipset, for the 960G anyway.

[Guest Console Peasant]

Then your CPU is bottlenecking. I wouldn't bother moving your ram up to 1600MHz, waste of time, won't give you any performance. The 4670K is easily twice as fast and anything AMD offers is the same bottlenecking garbage.

thanks mate, getting 4690k btw ! I'll post if it goes well

[Guest Console Peasant]

BF4 while shooting: http://i.imgur.com/5eblkPH.jpg

will post cinebench once it finishes

[Guest Console Peasant]

stop blamming amd... it isn't their fault,their chips like the 8350 are just fine you picked up the wrong chip for the wrong use also that mobo is plain bad 

I didn't say the 8350 was bad are you serious lmao? I didn't even blame AMD, just saying the fx 4300 isn't good enough

[Ialyrn]

Played the first 3 arkham games on an FX4300 myself, the games ran perfectly for me.

[Guest Console Peasant]

sorry for that reaction outburst

no prob! 

 

Played the first 3 arkham games on an FX4300 myself, the games ran perfectly for me.

weird, did they drop below 60 at all?

[Ialyrn]

@   I dont know about when I had my GT630, as I never had anything showing fps at the time, but since I got my GTX780; I keep shadowplay on with the FPS counter showing. I dont know how accurate that counter is, I dont remember it dipping below 60FPS. But for arguments sake, and because it has been awhile since I last played it; I might download it again through steam and check. But I am running an overclock at 4.6GHz atm (Can go to 4.8GHz stable, in case you are interested), as I just recently got a Corsair H75 cpu cooler with fans in a push pull config. I am also running on an MSI 970 gaming motherboard, which may or may not make a difference with regards to the CPU performance between us both. Experience wants to tell me it wont make that much of a difference, but I also know the motherboard you have is running a chipset from 2007. It was never originally intended to run an FX chip, but has been Frankensteined to do it. With the Bulldozer releasing in 2011, and piledriver in 2012; that is a minimum of a four year old chipset at that point.

Been 100% honest with you here, I would personally bite the bullet and move over to Intel if I was in your shoes. Mainly because I would want to ditch that ancient chipset as fast as possible. It is one thing been on a 970 or 990 chipset, but a 760G is far too old for me. The current and most sensible platform to go with at this point for a new build or upgrade, is 100% intel for the purpose of gaming. And is fast becoming the most sensible platform to go with for everything else too.

(Disclaimer: I am not saying the FX chips can not play games here, I own the FX4300 currently; and have never had an issue on that front. I am also not going to get into an argument over this Intel vs AMD bs again either. We all get it, and we all know the facts. Intel is better for gaming at the moment, but only makes sense to go with Intel on a brand new build; or for the purpose of an immediately needed upgrade to more powerful hardware. Anyone who trys to pull me into another Intel vs AMD war, will just reported to the moderation team)

If you dont have much money available though, and if you really wanted too (as would have to be your choice, and I am not recommending or endorsing this option to you or anyone. Just showing you both options). You could go out and buy the newest 970 chipset motherboard, which is the Asrock Fatal1ty 970 performance, and has an 8+2 power phase. Not sure what country you are in, but here in the uk it is only around the £60 to £70 mark. Retailer dependant obviously. Choice would have to be yours though, and I can not guarantee it would improve your experience one bit. Again, my own experience says it wont make that much difference. Not with a quad core anyway. Only real advantage I can see it giving you, is the ability to overclock the CPU a little.

[Guest Console Peasant]

@   I dont know about when I had my GT630, as I never had anything showing fps at the time, but since I got my GTX780; I keep shadowplay on with the FPS counter showing. I dont know how accurate that counter is, I dont remember it dipping below 60FPS. But for arguments sake, and because it has been awhile since I last played it; I might download it again through steam and check. But I am running an overclock at 4.6GHz atm (Can go to 4.8GHz stable, in case you are interested), as I just recently got a Corsair H75 cpu cooler with fans in a push pull config. I am also running on an MSI 970 gaming motherboard, which may or may not make a difference with regards to the CPU performance between us both. Experience wants to tell me it wont make that much of a difference, but I also know the motherboard you have is running a chipset from 2007. It was never originally intended to run an FX chip, but has been Frankensteined to do it. With the Bulldozer releasing in 2011, and piledriver in 2012; that is a minimum of a four year old chipset at that point.

Been 100% honest with you here, I would personally bite the bullet and move over to Intel if I was in your shoes. Mainly because I would want to ditch that ancient chipset as fast as possible. It is one thing been on a 970 or 990 chipset, but a 760G is far too old for me. The current and most sensible platform to go with at this point for a new build or upgrade, is 100% intel for the purpose of gaming. And is fast becoming the most sensible platform to go with for everything else too.

(Disclaimer: I am not saying the FX chips can not play games here, I own the FX4300 currently; and have never had an issue on that front. I am also not going to get into an argument over this Intel vs AMD bs again either. We all get it, and we all know the facts. Intel is better for gaming at the moment, but only makes sense to go with Intel on a brand new build; or for the purpose of an immediately needed upgrade to more powerful hardware. Anyone who trys to pull me into another Intel vs AMD war, will just reported to the moderation team)

If you dont have much money available though, and if you really wanted too (as would have to be your choice, and I am not recommending or endorsing this option to you or anyone. Just showing you both options). You could go out and buy the newest 970 chipset motherboard, which is the Asrock Fatal1ty 970 performance, and has an 8+2 power phase. Not sure what country you are in, but here in the uk it is only around the £60 to £70 mark. Retailer dependant obviously. Choice would have to be yours though, and I can not guarantee it would improve your experience one bit. Again, my own experience says it wont make that much difference. Not with a quad core anyway. Only real advantage I can see it giving you, is the ability to overclock the CPU a little.

Thank you for the advice but I will spend extra money for the newer chipset on the asus z97. I could buy a better 970 chipset mobo and overclock a little bit but the fx chip has dissapointed me enough, it's just not for me, as it does not run at stable 60 fps, but im sure for others 60 with a few bumps is good for ~$100 or so it is in Australia (where I live). I will be getting the 4690k and my new mobo soon so I hope it goes well, I've said i'll post if it goes well, so i'll let you know to, thanks!

[Ialyrn]

@   Only had time to run the in game benchmark, so I know it isnt much.

Ignore the audio, youtube been its usual awesome self.

 

[Guest Console Peasant]

@   Only had time to run the in game benchmark, so I know it isnt much.

Ignore the audio, youtube been its usual awesome self.

 

the ingame benchmark doesnt really stress the cpu enough, which is odd, it was ingame where I started lagging during fighting scenes, which the benchmark stupidly has none of. I'm pretty sure my benchmark was similar.

[Guest Console Peasant]

 

still waiting on mobo

[Ialyrn]

@   Glad you got your new parts on the way, should be a solid build with that CPU. What motherboard did you get again?

Also, as you said it was the fighting in Arkham you was having issues with; I decided to go back and do some testing again. On my end, everything seemed to be ok. For the most part I was running around 80 to 90 fps, with drops down to the 60's if there was a lot going on in game that is. In the areas of the game like in the benchmark, I was still hitting above 100fps in a lot of places.

[Guest Console Peasant]

@   Glad you got your new parts on the way, should be a solid build with that CPU. What motherboard did you get again?

Also, as you said it was the fighting in Arkham you was having issues with; I decided to go back and do some testing again. On my end, everything seemed to be ok. For the most part I was running around 80 to 90 fps, with drops down to the 60's if there was a lot going on in game that is. In the areas of the game like in the benchmark, I was still hitting above 100fps in a lot of places.

ok thank you but you should enable vsync too because sometimes when you have vsync off it still looks like 40-50 even if its at 100 or so, or at least in some games (and i play with vsync usually)

[Ialyrn]

@ I usuallly do run with v-sync on, but for the purpose of doing this I turned it off so you could see how easy it is to run this game.

[Guest Console Peasant]

@ I usuallly do run with v-sync on, but for the purpose of doing this I turned it off so you could see how easy it is to run this game.

hmm, weird. when u have vsync on does it drop for you?

[Ialyrn]

Nope, runs solid at 60fps

[Guest Console Peasant]

Nope, runs solid at 60fps

ok thank you for the details, I have some other games i think might  be bottlenecked by the cpu but we'll find out soon when my mobo arrrives

[i_build_nanosuits]

ok thank you for the details, I have some other games i think might  be bottlenecked by the cpu but we'll find out soon when my mobo arrrives

the R9 270X GPU and FX-4300 is a good combo for 1080p medium settings in most games your new motherboard should allow you to overclock that CPU substantialy and eleminate nearly any cpu limitations you might encounter IMHO.

What motherboard have you ordered? is it good?

[flibberdipper]

Then there's me. "Your G3258 must be holding you back SO much in almost every game you play!" The worst I've observed out of my most frequently played games is Far Cry 3 pinning my CPU to the wall and my 7950 hovering anywhere from 80-90% utilization. :mellow:

[i_build_nanosuits]

Then there's me. "Your G3258 must be holding you back SO much in almost every game you play!" The worst I've observed out of my most frequently played games is Far Cry 3 pinning my CPU to the wall and my 7950 hovering anywhere from 80-90% utilization. :mellow:

try the games i tried maybe if you wan't to fully exploit your CPU...it is pinned throughout the video man...good music too! :

 

[flibberdipper]

try the games i tried maybe if you wan't to fully exploit your CPU...it is pinned throughout the video man...good music too! :

 

 

Isn't that Crysis 2?

[i_build_nanosuits]

Isn't that Crysis 2?

no it's crysis 3...40% GPU load average on ultra.

Games tested are in this order:

 

Battelefield 4

dead rising 3

watchdogs

Crysis 3

Farcry 3

metro last light

[flibberdipper]

no it's crysis 3...40% GPU load average on ultra.

Games tested are in this order:

 

Battelefield 4

dead rising 3

watchdogs

Crysis 3

Farcry 3

metro last light

Oh. From the YouTube snapshot I couldn't tell.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Oh. From the YouTube snapshot I couldn't tell.

well if you want to see how your CPU would perform with a GTX780 on maxed settings in those games...take a listen!