My FX4300 went a long way! [story of my processor]

[marat569]

I've got a rig from ibuypower about a year ago (second machine from them). They charge 70$ for shipping, but you pick your parts and the price is about the same as getting the parts yourself. I usually order full rigs from them and upgrade overtime.

 

A year ago I got another machine with an awesome case, gtx 660, fx 4300 + liquid cooler for it,  500watt PSU from some crap unknown company, and 1tb WD blue HDD.

Today I have the same CPU + Mobo, but a gtx 970 clocked at 1300, a 512 samsung 840 pro 512gb + the 1tb WD drive for storage, 8gb dual channel ddr3 memory, 1000watt 80+rated PSU, fans all around the case via molex -> 4 fans wire (all on silent and more fans = more fun), and more [that's what's important I guess].

 

The FX 4300 is running cool and stable at 4.3 almost 4.4 GHZ for a year now. It's a quad core processor and most games use 4 cores if you're lucky nowadays. I've been playing tripple A tittles at 60+ fps with my 970 (1080p), League at 120+ FPS, and basically never had any problems playing games!

 

It's amazing how far this low end CPU takes you when you have adequate cooling and such.

 

In ~April I get my second annual grant so I'll be able to buy a ~500$ i7 + mobo and it will be the end of my FX4300. I just wanted to write a story on how "AMD CPU's are not COMPLETE CRAP".

 

Of-course intel is better, WoW doesn't show a huge boost since it's not optimized for GPUs, but for strictly gaming I had NO problems with it. I hear the CPU is around 70 bucks nowadays and a cheap liquid cooler is all you need to get an intro setup.

 

I probably will run a minecraft server on debian/ubuntu server once I replace my CPU+Mobo (i7 + unlocked [need to OC to ATLEAST 4GHZ] + hyper-threaded + 6 cores true cores + all of intels fancy-pants features) with the old AMD chip since when I upgrade a part, I put the old part in the new parts box. Or buy a cheapo monitor for when friends come-over so we can play league together or some other games and they'll be on a stable computer. This is just brainstorming.

 

The point of this thread is to show how far a cheap, low end CPU can go. [ http://bit.ly/1l82YJK ] - 100$ on newegg; and considering IBuyPower gave me the liquid cooler free, I don't think it's a high end one, so another 20$-30$; and you'll be playing at 1080P in no-time.

 

I've never had a single issue running anything, I don't really render videos, I used to stream WoW + Skyrim and had NO problem. Of-course I suggest if you really want to stream to get the 6300 (Same specs just 6 cores, 2 extra cores really help with background processes while games take up all 4 cores).

 

I do need more cores because I want to do more work soon, that's why I'm going for a high end processor; and it will be the final "check" in building a "high end" rig, but if you just want to start playing steam games on a budget; as somebody who actually used this chip for around a year overclocked, and still using it; I can without a doubt recommend it [WITH A LIQUID COOELR] for a budget build; and you won't be disappointed.

 

Just something I want to talk about.

 

P.S. I do not know how this chip functions with a stock cooler/anything other than a water-cooler. 

 

Notes:

CPU link: http://bit.ly/1l82YJK

 

- I guess this thread just shows the power of:

1) How far a cheapo card can really go 

2) How far a cheap water-cooler goes over a stock cooler/big cancerous heat-sink. Without it I doubt i'd be running the chip this long, and having this great of a computing experience.

 

- Don't invest in AMD cpu's over the 6300; if you really want a powerful CPU start looking at intel's products; 4300+6300 will let you game and stream -- but if you want to do a lot of video/graphic design/rendering then this isn't the CPU for you.

 

- No this is not for 4k either

 

Thanks!

[KayTees]

can someone read this for me?

http://www.naturalreaders.com/ Here ya go. Copy and Paste pls

[Clyne]

You know, the MSI 970 board deal at Fry's is better than the price of a 4300. 

[SuperPug]

Im guessing that once you get the i7 you'll realize how much the FX held back that GTX 970

[marat569]

can someone read this for me?

 

I'm not putting a TL;DR

[marat569]

You know, the MSI 970 board deal at Fry's is better than the price of a 4300. 

 

I didn't add the mobo, and never suggested the one on newegg. The one I have now is a ASUS M5A97 R20.

 

 

Im guessing that once you get the i7 you'll realize how much the FX held back that GTX 970

 

Well considering atm I can play all the AAA games I have at over 60FPS and have no interest in 4k; getting 100FPS won't make a significant difference. I'll see one streaming/video rending wise -- but it's not like I was gaming at 25FPS before.

 

60-90 FPS is a way smaller difference than 30-60. 

 

I personally think 4K atm is a 1) waste of money 2) not optimized around 3) the monitors are about the same size as 1080p monitors, it's not like you'll see a HUGE difference. 

-- Movies in theaters are 4k and look sharp. To get a native 4k monitor and truelly experience 1080p x4, I'll need a monitor the size of my current monitor x4. 4K on a standard 1080p sized monitor is a rip. 1080P looks fine.

[Tech_Dreamer]

Tell me about it..Still rocking my sempron 145 B)

 

 

 

can someone read this for me?

TLDR:AMD Low end CPU's are awesome

[Bloodyvalley]

too damn long

[ZetZet]

can someone read this for me?

he bought a prebuilt and upgraded twice.

[Shaqo_Wyn]

Cool story bro.

[Clyne]

I didn't add the mobo, and never suggested the one on newegg. The one I have now is a ASUS M5A97 R20.

Yeah 100 dollars for a 4300......

I remembered a time when 8320 were on sale for 100 dollars. 

Let's just compare the builds...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($93.66 @ OutletPC) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($26.75 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Total: $196.40

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-30 16:09 EST-0500

vs a X4

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($78.98 @ OutletPC) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($26.75 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88X-D3H ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Total: $175.72

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-30 16:10 EST-0500

Point is that FX CPUs aren't worth it because it's on a dead socket, lacking new features, no upgradeability.

[GzeroD]

 

Notes:

CPU link: http://bit.ly/1l82YJK

 

 

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9494388&CatId=7339

 

8 cores unlocked and if you use visa checkout is cheaper than the 4300. and since you mention getting a cooler anyway the fact this dosn't come with one shouldn't matter.

[jameshumphries47]

http://www.naturalreaders.com/ Here ya go. Copy and Paste pls

i love how British the UK charles is its so British its wrong

[marat569]

he bought a prebuilt and upgraded twice.

 

I don't like the term "Prebuilt", I didn't select a config and click buy; I checked the parts I want and they just built it for me for 70$ to save me time and effort + warranty on their end + warrenty on parts.

 

As for upgrades:

660 -> 970

500 crap PSU -> 1000 watt PSU

added a Samsung 840 pro 512gb

added ~4 coolermaster 120mm fans around the case to fill all the sockets

 

The memory it came with is just fine, I don't know if I need 16gb yet; and the last major update is the CPU (I count the CPU and Motherboard as one thing, since nobody just upgrades a motherboard for lols)

[othertomperson]

For the price of adding the liquid cooler, you could have just gotten a good CPU...

 

A cheap watercooling AIO is always going to be worse than a similarly priced air cooler though. AIOs aren't good until you're into the dual rads.

[marat569]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=9494388&CatId=7339

 

8 cores unlocked and if you use visa checkout is cheaper than the 4300. and since you mention getting a cooler anyway the fact this dosn't come with one shouldn't matter.

 

I don't buy from anywhere other than newegg, i got premier + i can call and price-match + I can price-match if anything [Just call supervisor and say would you rather me buy from you or go to the other store, they come running with 1) gift card thats a difference of the balance 2) just let you price match

 

 

 

Yeah 100 dollars for a 4300......

I remembered a time when 8320 were on sale for 100 dollars. 

Let's just compare the builds...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD FX-4300 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($93.66 @ OutletPC) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($26.75 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3P ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($75.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Total: $196.40

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-30 16:09 EST-0500

vs a X4

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: AMD Athlon X4 860K 3.7GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($78.98 @ OutletPC) 

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($26.75 @ OutletPC) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-F2A88X-D3H ATX FM2+ Motherboard  ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

Total: $175.72

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-30 16:10 EST-0500

Point is that FX CPUs aren't worth it because it's on a dead socket, lacking new features, no upgradeability.

 

 

I can't speak for the second processor, but being it's an older generation it might not compute/calculate as well.

 

Also the motherboard is off, but about the same price as mine on newegg.

 

Another thing, have you used both CPUs? Have you gamed and overclocked both CPUs? This is why it's easy to go on pcpartspicker and just find what's cheaper/better; but just how intel is better per core than AMD; I'm sure a FX is more powerful percore than the Athelons

 

As for the i3 dude:

Intel Mobos cost hell of a lot. If you're just getting an i3 it's not worth it; it hurts to even buy one for my i7, the mobos with the socket i'm going to need are ~200 +/- 50$. 

 

 

The point of this thread was not to show a pc part picker and specs sheet, but to show that I actually gamed successfully and with great performance on that processor; regardless of tomshardware or pcpartpicker. 

Even with the 660 I had loads of fun; but I wanted to get all new gen parts so I slowly started upgrading (Just need a new CPU; but no rush since mine works just fine)

 

 

For the price of adding the liquid cooler, you could have just gotten a good CPU...

 

A cheap watercooling AIO is always going to be worse than a similarly priced air cooler though. AIOs aren't good until you're into the dual rads.

 

I got mine free, and its a crappy 20$ one that gets the job done. 1 120mm radiator. 

[PC owner with questions]

someone once said something along these lines "intel is my heart but AMD is my walet" it was along those lines so if its wrong don't blame me blame where ever memory is put in the brain

[PC owner with questions]

@Bubblewhale do you regret buying a FX because you have one

[Clyne]

I don't buy from anywhere other than newegg, i got premier + i can call and price-match + I can price-match if anything [Just call supervisor and say would you rather me buy from you or go to the other store, they come running with 1) gift card thats a difference of the balance 2) just let you price match

 

 

 

I can't speak for the second processor, but being it's an older generation it might not compute/calculate as well.

 

Also the motherboard is off, but about the same price as mine on newegg.

 

Another thing, have you used both CPUs? Have you gamed and overclocked both CPUs? This is why it's easy to go on pcpartspicker and just find what's cheaper/better; but just how intel is better per core than AMD; I'm sure a FX is more powerful percore than the Athelons

 

As for the i3 dude:

Intel Mobos cost hell of a lot. If you're just getting an i3 it's not worth it; it hurts to even buy one for my i7, the mobos with the socket i'm going to need are ~200 +/- 50$. 

 

 

The point of this thread was not to show a pc part picker and specs sheet, but to show that I actually gamed successfully and with great performance on that processor; regardless of tomshardware or pcpartpicker. 

Even with the 660 I had loads of fun; but I wanted to get all new gen parts so I slowly started upgrading (Just need a new CPU; but no rush since mine works just fine)

hmmm

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i3-4150 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($99.99 @ NCIX US) 

Motherboard: Asus H81M-D PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  ($44.49 @ Newegg) 

Total: $144.48

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-30 16:23 EST-0500

I think i need @Faceman or @Faa or something to show the graphs... 

[D3MON]

im called an amd fanboy, which is a bit wierd considering i wouldnt recommend an fx4, if you really dont need cpu LOADS of power get a pentium-k, if you want more power for not much more money and you're willing to take a 33% cut in single threaded performance for a 80% boost overall, fx6 is great and op would of done well with this, even linus featured it in his latest build (okay it was a overpriced fx6350), my fx8 has enabled me to do things on the cheap that I couldnt get close to doing with an intel rig for the same price.
if old single threaded games like LoL can run on a pentium4 an fx4 is still plenty but people seem to miss that.

[marat569]

someone once said something along these lines "intel is my love but AMD is my walet" it was along those lines so if its wrong don't blame me blame where ever memory is put in the brain

 

When I got the FX4300 it was new and was great bang for your buck; I don't have money problems since every semester (2 a year) I get 5k USD in grants from honor societies for keeping my 4.0 GPA (+ free tuition).

 

I usually buy PC parts and have a ton left over for food, games, metrocards (5$ a day to go to and back from school add up, so does eating).

[Clyne]

@Bubblewhale do you regret buying a FX because you have one

Yes, i regret buying my 8320.

WHEN I COULD HAVE GOTTEN A i5 4690K FOR 30 MORE DOLLARS

[PC owner with questions]

Yes, i regret buying my 8320.

WHEN I COULD HAVE GOTTEN A i5 4690K FOR 30 MORE DOLLARS

man 30$ is alot in my mind

[PC owner with questions]

except 20$is cheap

[PC owner with questions]

and im not rich