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Alright, so I will be better off with a i7, but if I can't get one for the right price will an i5 do?

Yep. Aslong it's not a 8350. It's just simple, most games usually have one main thread and a few trashthreads which rely on the mainthread, streaming loads every core with a bunch of crap and as we know AMD's single core performance being horrible that main thread's performance is extremely sensitive. Not much of a point having relatively good streaming performance when your game is running at 15 fps. Most massive multiplayer games 8350's run at 15 fps without streaming, add another good taxing fee and that would come down to 10 fps.

Around 16:00 he starts showing the streaming results, look at how awful the minimum fps were getting that's what I meant. Looking at most encoding benchmarks on the net, I see the i5 doing nearly in all benchmarks better than the 8350 so totally no reason to get a 8350 for streaming. I wouldn't bother with what many AMD fanatics here are saying, take Fooshi for example, next day he'll be saying the same shit "no difference between AMD & Intel in Arma 3". This is the 5th time orsomething he's getting proven wrong. Not sure why you would trap in their lies though, I mean two QX9775's which are from 2008 on a dual socket board at 4.2GHz outperforms a 9590 meaning the singlethreaded performance is even much better on C2Q.

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About the i5 vs i7, well Hyperthreading usually adds a 30% boost, so yeah 30% more FPS theoretically, up to you if that's worth it or not.

 

What evidence do you have to support low framerate during him streaming? I understand you were trying to be funny, but it's pretty ignorant as well.

And considering the fact that you can get nearly the same performance for almost $100 less by getting the 8350, it all comes down to personal preference. 

Your decision to buy a 8350 by thinking you get nearly the same performance for almost 100$ less being a personal preference is what I would call ignorant. You wouldnt even notice any performance degradation if 4 of your 8 cores died, that should tell you enough how really useless 8 cores are just for gaming only. For the same price you're getting almost up to twice as much fps in CPU limited titles so let's stop mything about it's price/performance. I bet our good friend at AMD Richard Huddy who's a PR leader orsomething yolo's a 5960x at home to test the full potential out of his GPU's. No wonder AMD is shipping Intel CPU's for their GPU reviews.

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I will be editing but not extremely intensive editing. Just cutting clips, rendering etc... 

Then I suggest you try to get a 3770k, sure it'll be a little bit more expensive, but it blows the 8350 out of the water in gaming/rendering and you won't be held back in any games, like you will in some on the 8350 (Arma 3 is one of them). 

 

@Fooshi I noticed 0 quality difference between Quick Sync and X264 at 10k and 20k bitrate.

@Sotha Chill even a stock 3770 would be better than an overclocked 8350, and would be the same price by the time you factor in the CPU cooler you'll need to overclock.

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Then I suggest you try to get a 3770k, sure it'll be a little bit more expensive, but it blows the 8350 out of the water in gaming/rendering and you won't be held back in any games, like you will in some on the 8350 (Arma 3 is one of them). 

 

@Fooshi I noticed 0 quality difference between Quick Sync and X264 at 10k and 20k bitrate.

@Sotha Chill even a stock 3770 would be better than an overclocked 8350, and would be the same price by the time you factor in the CPU cooler you'll need to overclock.

I will probably need a new heatsink anyway for with the i7 because I will probably end up buying a second hand one

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Upgrade to an i5 or i7.

 

They both stream just fine, and they will play games much better than their FX counterparts.  You're already on the right platform, all you need to do is buy the right CPU.

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Then I suggest you try to get a 3770k, sure it'll be a little bit more expensive, but it blows the 8350 out of the water in gaming/rendering and you won't be held back in any games, like you will in some on the 8350 (Arma 3 is one of them). 

 

@Fooshi I noticed 0 quality difference between Quick Sync and X264 at 10k and 20k bitrate.

@Sotha Chill even a stock 3770 would be better than an overclocked 8350, and would be the same price by the time you factor in the CPU cooler you'll need to overclock.

 

Arma 3 is shit no matter what cpu you play it with. I have the 8350 and my friend has the i5 4690k and we both suffer with framerates. You just can't use Arma 3 as a comparison because of how badly optimized it is.

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Arma 3 is shit no matter what cpu you play it with. I have the 8350 and my friend has the i5 4690k and we both suffer with framerates. You just can't use Arma 3 as a comparison because of how badly optimized it is.

@Pahddy said he is going to play Arma 3, so why can't I use it as a comparison? I know it's poorly optimized, but that doesn't change the fact that it runs better on Intel's current CPU's.

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@Pahddy said he is going to play Arma 3, so why can't I use it as a comparison? I know it's poorly optimized, but that doesn't change the fact that it runs better on Intel's current CPU's.

 

I meant in general. Generally when you benchmark you should use a game that works well on both, not on just one or neither. That way it's unbiased.

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I meant in general. Generally when you benchmark you should use a game that works well on both, not on just one or neither. That way it's unbiased.

Not really, if one in four games don't work well on FX, why should that be excluded? That's biased.

 

The thing is, every game works well on Intel's current processors, unlike the FX line. 

 

At the end of the day, there's still games that are unoptimized for FX and in those games, you're going to see horrible performance. That's the unfortunate reality. If every game was optimized for it, sure it would be a good option, but that's not the reality of it.

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Apart from the fact you'll barely notice a difference between AMD and Intel. Google a bit and be impressed by the fact that ARMA 3 will bring any decent rig down on its knees. My friend has an almost identical rig to me (970, 16GB RAM, game on an SSD), but with a 4690k instead and achieves pretty much the same result as I do at stock speeds. 

Start watching at 2:40

Up to twice as much FPS especially in the beginning.

 

 

My friend has an almost identical rig to me (970, 16GB RAM, game on an SSD), but with a 4690k instead and achieves pretty much the same result as I do at stock speeds. 

Awhile ago you told me your friend had easily up to twice as much FPS in Arma 3.

 

 

I have no problems streaming with my 8350. 

At 10 fps.

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I trust Linus's video series where he compared the FX 8350 vs 3570k more than that of Tek Syndicate's. Linus shows us his testing methodology, whereas Tek Syndicate doesn't.

 

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Start watching at 2:40

Up to twice as much FPS especially in the beginning.

 

 

Awhile ago you told me your friend had easily up to twice as much FPS in Arma 3.

 

 

At 10 fps.

 

Alright, so I will be better off with a i7, but if I can't get one for the right price will an i5 do?

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At 10 fps.

 

What evidence do you have to support low framerate during him streaming? I understand you were trying to be funny, but it's pretty ignorant as well.

And considering the fact that you can get nearly the same performance for almost $100 less by getting the 8350, it all comes down to personal preference. 

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And considering the fact that you can get nearly the same performance for almost $100 less by getting the 8350, it all comes down to personal preference. 

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The fuck?

Since when is an 8350 + Motherboard only $100? Last time I checked, it was near $250. If the OP was to buy a 3570k, it would cost him $200, as he already has a motherboard "$100 less by getting the 8350".

There's no personal preference here, there's benchmarks and facts. 

"Let's spend $50 more to get less performance" is basically what you're saying. Good idea.

 

@Pahddy, yes an i5 will do, Quick Sync is great.

Alright. I'll see what is on eBay on Boxing day or the day after. The i5 will do me until Skylake when I hope to build a whole different system all to get her. Do you think I would benefit in buying a SSD as well for OS and some games with the money saved from not getting an i7? 

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The fuck?

Since when is an 8350 + Motherboard only $100? Last time I checked, it was near $250. If the OP was to buy a 3570k, it would cost him $200, as he already has a motherboard "$100 less by getting the 8350".

There's no personal preference here, there's benchmarks and facts. 

"Let's spend $50 more to get less performance" is basically what you're saying. Good idea.

 

@Pahddy, yes an i5 will do, Quick Sync is great.

 

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i5 4690k = $240

FX 8350 = $150

      240

     -150

      $90

nearly $100.

Watching the video, the two cards were getting pretty close at times with frames.

I would need to get a new mobo if I was to get the FX CPU so I guess I can save money and possibly lose some (not much) FPS but it will be a lot better than what I am running with just now!

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Been thinking about this for a while. Definitely going to buy with in the next 2 weeks now. I have been watching this video 

and it shows that the FX-8350 is better for gaming and streaming at the same time. The other option is to just upgrade my existing build (Z77) to an i5 or i7. I really don't know about the video because some people in the comments are saying that their tests were not done correctly or something. :S

 

Thanks

 

I game and stream with my FX 8350, it's fine? OBS seems to take up very little in terms of resources so either camp will be fine. the FX will help with video rendering etc too but with the fact you just said you already have an intel setup, if it is lagging etc then upgrade some of your parts.

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8320 and start the comparison again.

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CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor  ($134.98 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI 970 GAMING ATX AM3+ Motherboard  ($97.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $232.97
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CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($224.99 @ SuperBiiz) 

tests from the tek

Here are the test system specs (all CPU's running at stock speeds):

AMD FX 8350 Rig

  • MSI 990FXA-GD80 Motherboard
  • 16 GB Kingston 2133MHz DDR3
  • Corsair H80 Liquid Cooling Unit
  • Kingston HyperX3K 120 GB SSD
  • HIS ICEQ Radeon 7870

Intel Z77 Rigs (3570k and 3770k)

  • EVGA Z77 Stinger mini-ITX Motherboard
  • 16 GB ADATA 2133 MHZ DDR3
  • Corsair H100
  • ADATA 256 GB SX900 SSD
  • HIS ICEQ Radeon 7870

Intel 3820 Rig

  • ASRock X79 Extreme4m Motherboard
  • 16 GB Gelid 2133MHz DDR3
  • Corsair H80 Liquid Cooling Unit
  • Kingston HyperX3K 256 GB SSD
  • HIS ICEQ Radeon 7870

Here are the benchmarks:

AMD FX 8350 -
 
Crysis 2
  • 1080 - 29.84
  • 1440 - 20.96
Crysis Warhead xsplit
  • 1080 - 26.44
  • 1600x900 - 39.28
  • 720 - 48.28
Crysis Warhead
  • 1080 - 35.64
  • 1440 - 26.772
Black Mesa
  • 1440 - 188.8
  • 1080 - 262.6
Metro 2033
  • 1440 - 20.44
  • 1080 - 36.44
TERA
  • 1440 - 42.80
  • 1080 - 75.2
Trine 2
  • 1440 - 36.84
  • 1080 - 58
_______________________
 
Intel i5 3570k -
 

Crysis 2

  • 1080 - 39.520
  • 1440 - 22.760
Crysis Warhead xsplit
  • 720 - 37.120
  • 1080 - 24.920
  • 1600x900 - 31.040
Crysis Warhead
  • 1080 - 26.840
  • 1440 - 18.720
Black Mesa
  • 1080 - 196.320
  • 1440 - 121.120
Metro 2033
  • 1080 - 21.200
  • 1440 - 12.800
Trine 2
  • 1080 - 38.800
  • 1440 - 23.600
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Intel i7 3770k -
 
Crysis 2
  • 1080 - 39.520
  • 1440 - 22.760
Crysis Warhead
  • 1080 - 38.440
  • 1440 - 23.880
Black Mesa
  • 1080 - 197.440
  • 1440 - 111.920
Metro 2033
  • 1080 - 27.480
  • 1440 - 12.960
Trine 2
  • 1080 - 47.280
  • 1440 - 27.840
 
Intel i7 3820 -
 

Crysis 2

  • 1080 - 35.64
Crysis Warhead xsplit
  • 720 - 42.88
  • 1080 - 26.00
  • 1600x900 - 36.6
Crysis Warhead
  • 1080 - 26.840
Black Mesa
  • 1080 - 196.320
Metro 2033
  • 1080 - 21.32
Trine 2
  • 1080 - 31.96

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Maybe reading MY comment first would do you well? "as he already has a motherboard"

He isn't buying a 4690k, he's buying a 3570k.

8350's are $170. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd8350frhkbox

The cheapest motherboard you can get for that processor is $70

170+70 = $240

Wow math!

3570k from a very reputable seller on ebay, $160 http://www.ebay.com/itm/i5-3570K-3-4Ghz-4-Core-4-Threads-77W-TDP-/271717138605?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f439a80ad

 

So actually if you buy from ebay, you're SAVING $80.

Reading and math are hard right? 

Get your head out of your ass, just because you own the 8350 doesn't make it the greatest processor in the world. If you've been on this forum for longer than a day, you'll likely have seen me recommending the 8320 to people whom it applies to, in this case it does not. End of story.

 

 

 

edit: Before you bring up, "oh it's used" here you fucking go, $210, still cheaper: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-LGA-1155-Ivy-quad-core-Core-i5-3570K-3-4GHz-unlocked-BX80637I53570K-boxed-/121525009009?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c4b747a71

 

There is absolutely no need for this reaction at all tbh...

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There is absolutely no need for this reaction at all tbh...

When someone is insulting my intelligence and not properly taking everything into consideration, I'm going to write a strongly worded paragraph.

Sorry if it comes off as me being pissed off, I'm not - that's just how I type when people say silly shit. 

If he already had an AM3+ motherboard that could work with the 8350, I'd recommend it all day, but he doesn't. He has a Z77 motherboard but people like to come on here and tell him to waste his money because the second they see, "should I get an 8350" they jump on it like flies on shit and don't take anything into consideration.

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Maybe reading MY comment first would do you well? "as he already has a motherboard"

He isn't buying a 4690k, he's buying a 3570k.

8350's are $170. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/amd-cpu-fd8350frhkbox

The cheapest motherboard you can get for that processor is $70

170+70 = $240

Wow math!

3570k from a very reputable seller on ebay, $160 http://www.ebay.com/itm/i5-3570K-3-4Ghz-4-Core-4-Threads-77W-TDP-/271717138605?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f439a80ad

 

So actually if you buy from ebay, you're SAVING $80.

Reading and math are hard right? 

Get your head out of your ass, just because you own the 8350 doesn't make it the greatest processor in the world. If you've been on this forum for longer than a day, you'll likely have seen me recommending the 8320 to people whom it applies to, in this case it does not. End of story.

 

I never said it was "the best processor in the world". I'm agreeing with Tek Syndicate. I'll get whatever gets the job done. It just so happens that the 8350 will get the job done for a lower price. 

ebay? Oh boy, I have that too: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-FX-8350-Black-Edition-4-GHz-Eight-Core-FD8350FRHKBOX-Processor-/111556887172?

pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f94f0284

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157323

$130+$54 = $184. Still a nominally low price for a bundle. 

Since Tek Syndicate has already proven that the 8350 can outperform the 3570k, why not?

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/THNVZf

CPU: Intel Core i5-8600K 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($244.00 @ B&H)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($84.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: ADATA XPG SX6000 Pro 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($51.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($164.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB AMP! Extreme Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Define C TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($104.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OEM 64-bit  ($139.99 @ Other World Computing)
Monitor: LG 32GK650F-B 32.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($396.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1276.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-12 03:07 EDT-0400

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8320 and start again.

 

The 8320 is a lower clock and still needs very similar voltages to keep stable I believe? I'd suggest the newer 8370E or something with a lower TDP and better overclocks with much much lower temps and voltages.

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I never said it was "the best processor in the world". I'm agreeing with Tek Syndicate. I'll get whatever gets the job done. It just so happens that the 8350 will get the job done for a lower price. 

ebay? Oh boy, I have that too: http://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-FX-8350-Black-Edition-4-GHz-Eight-Core-FD8350FRHKBOX-Processor-/111556887172?

pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19f94f0284

Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157323

$130+$54 = $184. Still a nominally low price for a bundle. 

Since Tek Syndicate has already proven that the 8350 can outperform the 3570k, why not?

How is $184 a lower price than a 3570k ($160+10) you said nominally low price, my bad. You also didn't take shipping into consideration and that's also just the starting bid. It's still cheaper to go with a 3570k though.

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When someone is insulting my intelligence and not properly taking everything into consideration, I'm going to write a strongly worded paragraph.

Sorry if it comes off as me being pissed off, I'm not - that's just how I type when people say silly shit. 

If he already had an AM3+ motherboard that could work with the 8350, I'd recommend it all day, but he doesn't. He has a Z77 motherboard but people like to come on here and tell him to waste his money because the second they see, "should I get an 8350" they jump on it like flies on shit and don't take anything into consideration.

 

I understand that buddy, but to go off like that over a disagrement is really a poor show of character, it's much better to say that you believe they're wrong and provide evidence like you did but be a tad more tactful while doing so. This makes the forum a much nicer place to be and less toxic, an eye for an eye the whole world will go blind. As for your jump on it like flies on shit reference, that is down to the end user, while I agree with you on the bandwagon theory *cough* hyper 212, phanteks cases, AIO over custom loops *cough*  ;) I don't go ranting and raving and swearing in order to get my point across, I put my arguement forward and if the end user decides against me for whatever reason they feel like, then you just have to say, fair enough. Have a grown up discussion about it and be grown up about the results.  ;)

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AMD FX8350 @ 5GHz | Asus Sabretooth 990FX R2 | 16GB HyperX Savage @1950mhz CL9 | 120GB Kingston SSDNow

EK AMD LTX CSQ | XSPC D5 Dual Bay | Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 240mm & Coolgate Triple HD360

 

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How is $184 a lower price than a 3570k ($160+10) you said nominally low price, my bad. You also didn't take shipping into consideration and that's also just the starting bid. It's still cheaper to go with a 3570k though.

one like this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-i5-3570K-3-4GHz-/191453865027?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item2c938a2443

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