LTT 3DMark Thread

[done12many2]

7 minutes ago, Vellinious said:

Something odd with this processor.  When I set the XMP profile, no matter what I do with LLC, adaptive voltage offset, CPU current capability, etc...it'll run 4.0 great, but as soon as I try to bump it up, even just to 4.125, it gets to the Windows screen and crashes.  Then takes removing the battery to reset it, because as soon as I get into the bios, it crashes there too.  Got it running at 4.4 for a FS run, which brought the physics score run, but it ran almost 1k better (26k physics) at 4.2.  Maybe not enough voltage.  Still playing with that.

Timespy preferred the 4.0 with bclk at 125...better CPU score.  Memory clock maybe...  I think if I get the ambients lowered so I can really put the boots to the GPU, and get the CPU figured out, I may be able to break 7k on a single 980ti.

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/163016

 

How are temps during the Time Spy physics test, because the physics score is WAY TOO low for a 4.4 GHz run with that chip?  It should be at 12k +.

 

If you aren't already doing so.  Leave cache alone until you get the CPU OC dialed in.  Broadwell-E's cache overclockability is extremely low so work on that later.

 

I'd clear the CMOS, set your XMP, change the CPU multiplier and add approximately voltage at this point to see if you can get the chip stable around 4.4 to 4.5 before touching anything else.

[Vellinious]

8 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

How are temps during the Time Spy physics test, because the physics score is WAY TOO low for a 4.4 GHz run with that chip?  It should be at 12k +.

 

If you aren't already doing so.  Leave cache alone until you get the CPU OC dialed in.  Broadwell-E's cache overclockability is extremely low so work on that later.

 

I'd clear the CMOS, set your XMP, change the CPU multiplier and add approximately voltage at this point to see if you can get the chip stable around 4.4 to 4.5 before touching anything else.

Yeah, I'm not touching the cache clock yet.  It just won't overclock with the XMP profile set and the bclk at 125.  It'll run 4.4 pretty easy with the bclk at 100, but I think the memory clock at base 2400 is hurtin it...at least, that's what I'm thinking, because I pull 11250ish with the bclk at 125 and 4.0 on the CPU.  Might try to bclk OC the processor, see if I can get that done.  Touching the multiplier just breaks it....

I was hoping that keeping the first version of the X99A wouldn't hurt me, if I flashed to the latest bios....I'm wondering if that isn't playing a part in all this too.  /shrug

Temps during the timespy bench haven't gone above 56c in any of my testing thus far.  57c in FS phsyics test.

[done12many2]

7 minutes ago, Vellinious said:

Yeah, I'm not touching the cache clock yet.  It just won't overclock with the XMP profile set and the bclk at 125.  It'll run 4.4 pretty easy with the bclk at 100, but I think the memory clock at base 2400 is hurtin it...at least, that's what I'm thinking, because I pull 11250ish with the bclk at 125 and 4.0 on the CPU.  Might try to bclk OC the processor, see if I can get that done.  Touching the multiplier just breaks it....

I was hoping that keeping the first version of the X99A wouldn't hurt me, if I flashed to the latest bios....I'm wondering if that isn't playing a part in all this too.  /shrug

Temps during the timespy bench haven't gone above 56c in any of my testing thus far.  57c in FS phsyics test.

 

So it want's to jump on the 125 strap because of the 3000 memory?

 

Both FireStrike and Time Spy respond very well with much higher scores due to memory and CPU cache increases so there's no doubt that those are holding you back at the moment.

 

The original board won't hold you back at all.  I am on a non refresh board myself and it makes no difference.

 

Temps look great.  I was just thrown off by the physics score and thought you might be throttling or something, but it all makes sense now.

 

[Vellinious]

2 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

So it want's to jump on the 125 strap because of the 3000 memory?

 

Both FireStrike and Time Spy respond very well with much higher scores due to memory and CPU cache increases so there's no doubt that those are holding you back at the moment.

 

The original board won't hold you back at all.  I am on a non refresh board myself and it makes no difference.

 

Temps look great.  I was just thrown off by the physics score and thought you might be throttling or something, but it all makes sense now.

 

I'm gonna keep toying with it, but....man, I'm baffled.  I'll be posting some questions up across some of the forums tonight, see if I can't get it figured out.

And yes, because the memory is set to run at 3000, the bclk auto sets to 125.

I've never done any memory overclocking.  I'm completely ignorant there...might have to read up on that, get it set to closer to 3k with the bclk at 100.

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, Vellinious said:

I'm gonna keep toying with it, but....man, I'm baffled.  I'll be posting some questions up across some of the forums tonight, see if I can't get it figured out.

 

One last thing before you depart on your mission.  Are you running the 3301 BIOS?

[Vellinious]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

One last thing before you depart on your mission.  Are you running the 3301 BIOS?

Yup, flashed to it this morning.

[Mk7-Golf-R]

Bump for a update on the scoreboard. I want to see where I'm at.

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, Vellinious said:

Yup, flashed to it this morning.

 

Good to go. Basic overclocking between Broadwell-E and Haswell-E is very similar with the only areas differing being the actual speed of both CPU and cache.  One exception is the AVX offset that is exclusive to Broadwell-E, but you don't really need to mess with that right now.

[DildorTheDecent]

20 minutes ago, Vellinious said:

And yes, because the memory is set to run at 3000, the bclk auto sets to 125.

Weird. My 3200 kit is just fine at 100BCLK. 

 

Others seem to run around 3K+ at 125 BCLK. 

 

Maybe it's cos timings are a bit looser, idk.

[done12many2]

2 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Weird. My 3200 kit is just fine at 100BCLK. 

 

Others seem to run around 3K+ at 125 BCLK. 

 

Maybe it's cos timings are a bit looser, idk.

Yeah, for some reason 3000 kits love to set 125.  My 3200 runs at 100 by default XMP.

[Vellinious]

6 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

Yeah, for some reason 3000 kits love to set 125.  My 3200 runs at 100 by default XMP.

The memory I bought was really early in the game.....maybe that makes somewhat of a difference.  Who knows...I'll get it there.  Just gotta play some more.  lol

[Vellinious]

Gettin closer.....

[arnavvr]

Should I go X5680s or 5820K?

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, arnavvr said:

Should I go X5680s or 5820K?

If you went x5680, are you getting two of them or something?

[arnavvr]

19 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

If you went x5680, are you getting two of them or something?

Yes, I have an EVGA SR-2  

 

EDIT: Also @Vellinious How moddable is the X9? I need to be able to fit a HPTX board in.

[Vellinious]

With the right tools anything is moddable, but....I would say that this case has a lot of potential.

This is more what I envisioned.  FS physics score:  


After playing around with this board, I've figured out that if I set the XMP profile and don't touch anything else...and I mean ANYTHING, then it runs fine.  If I do literally anything else in the bios, it takes a battery out reset.  

Think I'm gonna go ahead and get the MSI X99 Carbon.  It was on my wishlist anyway.

[arnavvr]

43 minutes ago, Vellinious said:

With the right tools anything is moddable, but....I would say that this case has a lot of potential.

This is more what I envisioned.  FS physics score:  


After playing around with this board, I've figured out that if I set the XMP profile and don't touch anything else...and I mean ANYTHING, then it runs fine.  If I do literally anything else in the bios, it takes a battery out reset.  

Think I'm gonna go ahead and get the MSI X99 Carbon.  It was on my wishlist anyway.

I have a X99 SOC Force for sale. $160 shipped.

[done12many2]

56 minutes ago, Vellinious said:

After playing around with this board, I've figured out that if I set the XMP profile and don't touch anything else...and I mean ANYTHING, then it runs fine.  If I do literally anything else in the bios, it takes a battery out reset.  

 

4 hours ago, done12many2 said:

I'd clear the CMOS, set your XMP, change the CPU multiplier and add approximately voltage at this point to see if you can get the chip stable around 4.4 to 4.5 before touching anything else.

 

 

Um, that is what I said earlier.  You must like hazing yourself.  haha!

[Vellinious]

52 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

 

 

Um, that is what I said earlier.  You must like hazing yourself.  haha!

No.  When I set the XMP profile, I can't change anything else in the bios or it crashes.  Nothing.  If I change ANYTHING after I set the XMP profile, it crashes....  I even just tried changing the voltage to run at 1.275, down from 1.277.  Crash.  I tried moving the voltage to 1.28.  Crash.  

[Dschijn]

Cracked the 8000 in the Graphics Score of TimeSpy yesterday.

[LordLeewee]

woop! cpu upgraded today. neither really breaking much of a sweat so i reckon i can get to 19k

[done12many2]

10 hours ago, Vellinious said:

No.  When I set the XMP profile, I can't change anything else in the bios or it crashes.  Nothing.  If I change ANYTHING after I set the XMP profile, it crashes....  I even just tried changing the voltage to run at 1.275, down from 1.277.  Crash.  I tried moving the voltage to 1.28.  Crash.  

Strange things are afoot in your setup.  

[Vellinious]

30 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

Strange things are afoot in your setup.  

Aye.....why I wondered if a revision board wouldn't be the better option.  

[done12many2]

3 minutes ago, Vellinious said:

Aye.....why I wondered if a revision board wouldn't be the better option.  

 

Well, my Asus x99 Deluxe/U3.1 is not a "refresh" board and I could set XMP and go into all kind of adjustments.  Hell, I was even able to get my 64 GB TridentZ 3200 c14 memory to run at 3400 (w/ XMP timings) on Broadwell-E with little fuss at all thanks to Broadwell-E's improved IMC.

 

I think this is karma coming around for the whole change rankings to based on physics score thing.  

 

I'm confident it's something simple and there should be no need for another board.  I would skip the MSI board if you do decide to swap.

[Vellinious]

24 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

Well, my Asus x99 Deluxe/U3.1 is not a "refresh" board and I could set XMP and go into all kind of adjustments.  Hell, I was even able to get my 64 GB TridentZ 3200 c14 memory to run at 3400 (w/ XMP timings) on Broadwell-E with little fuss at all thanks to Broadwell-E's improved IMC.

 

I think this is karma coming around for the whole change rankings to based on physics score thing.  

 

I'm confident it's something simple and there should be no need for another board.  I would skip the MSI board if you do decide to swap.

lol, could be.

I'm looking very seriously at an EVGA X99 FTW K.  I think I'm going to go ahead and get it.  Then sell the X99A and 5820k, that seem to work brilliantly together.