GeForce GTX 980 starts listing in pricewatch engines (2560 Shaders, 160 TMUs, 64 ROPs)

[Briggsy]

This card IS faster than a 780ti. 

 

proof?

[eshbop]

Smaller die & 265bit bus = less complex PCB = ~GTX680 launch prices?

 

If not, we are being rorted.

[Coombzy]

Well it's like 2 weeks before launch. These are the specs, i'll give you that.

I'm sorry are you a Nvidia rep?

[Imabigmac]

unlikely. the 980 is supposed to be a replacement for the 780 only at this point. granted, the new color compression methods that are allowing the 256bit bus to come back have made the cards cheaper to produce. if its actually faster than the 780Ti, card makers will either mark up the prices and jizz in their pants, or the 780Ti will be dead in the water.

 

I still believe 28nm is a go-between until 20nm comes around, much like the 285 on the Red side. the new color compression helps, but the 280 is still faster for memory bandwidth hungry games than the 285, and I think we will see the same with the Gtx 980 until 20nm.

They did it with the titan, 780 was just as good for gaming, and then the 780ti came along and outpriced the titan and outperformed it. 

[Briggsy]

They did it with the titan, 780 was just as good for gaming, and then the 780ti came along and outpriced the titan and outperformed it. 

 

same gpu, better drivers for 780Ti vs Titan. not really comparable here.

[Nuclear Nerd]

How long do you guys think till a 980ti come out? I know there is no info yet.

[AlwaysFSX]

Smaller die & 265bit bus = less complex PCB = ~GTX680 launch prices?

 

If not, we are being rorted.

$550 faaaaaaaaaaack nooooooooooooooooooooo.

[Deletive]

proof?

http://international.download.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/pdfs/GeForce-GTX-750-Ti-Whitepaper.pdf

750ti paperwhite.

It's 35% faster per core. So a maxwell card with the same amount of cores as a 780 should perform 35% better than the 780 but we run into bottlenecks slowing it down. So they went with 2560 x4 what the 750ti is and with whole architecture being changed by making everything a ^2 in First generation maxwell it was an improvement. 2560 is more than 35% of 780 but because of the less memory bandwidth and a few otherthings. It'll be 35% more performance than a 780... So it'll be 20% more performance than the 780ti. 

 

I'm sorry are you a Nvidia rep?

hahaha   I know a few people. 

[BiG StroOnZ]

How long do you guys think till a 980ti come out? I know there is no info yet.

 

Rumors suggest sometime in September, but that's not definitive. Most likely some time in fall though. 

[rashdanml]

Curious to see how it performs. GTX 970 might as well be my next upgrade. 

[Manny Calavera]

TMU is texture mapping units

[eshbop]

unlikely. the 980 is supposed to be a replacement for the 780 only at this point. granted, the new color compression methods that are allowing the 256bit bus to come back have made the cards cheaper to produce. if its actually faster than the 780Ti, card makers will either mark up the prices and jizz in their pants, or the 780Ti will be dead in the water.

 

I still believe 28nm Maxwell is a go-between until 20nm comes around, much like the 285 on the Red side. the new color compression helps, but the 280 is still faster for memory bandwidth hungry games than the 285, and I think we will see the same with the Gtx 980 vs 780 until 20nm.

 

780/780Ti will be dead in the water. Nvidia can always sell Gk110 chips off as Titans or Quadros, so they won't care. 

 

The 285 is more, "we need mid-range Hawaii GPUs for 'Freesync'" than a go-between. I doubt AMD will release anything until the die-shrink. 

 

And if the 990 is ~780Ti-performance, the way Nvidia competes is with pricing, and they'll have plenty of wiggle room if the rumored specs are correct.

[Imabigmac]

same gpu, better drivers for 780Ti vs Titan. not really comparable here.

it is comparable,

you said 

 

 

 

if its actually faster than the 780Ti, card makers will either mark up the prices and jizz in their pants, or the 780Ti will be dead in the water.

They didn't mark the 780 ti up crazily despite its better "gaming" performance, and it essentially kicked the titan out of the market. 

[Briggsy]

http://international.download.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/pdfs/GeForce-GTX-750-Ti-Whitepaper.pdf

750ti paperwhite.

It's 35% faster per core. So a maxwell card with the same amount of cores as a 780 should perform 35% better than the 780 but we run into bottlenecks slowing it down. So they went with 2560 x4 what the 750ti is and with whole architecture being changed by making everything a ^2 in First generation maxwell it was an improvement. 2560 is more than 35% of 780 but because of the less memory bandwidth and a few otherthings. It'll be 35% more performance than a 780... So it'll be 20% more performance than the 780ti. 

 

hahaha   I know a few people. 

 

that is assuming it will scale accordingly. if it does, I will be all over it like flies on a homeless dude.

[vandanved]

I think it would be priced somewhere between $550-$650.

[ACatWithThumbs]

What is Nvidia thinking with those specs ?
Less TMUs and memory bandwidth than a 780ti but way more ROPs and way more CUDA performance.
With those specs the card will run circles around a 780ti but should be slow in high resolutions.


 

[Briggsy]

What is Nvidia thinking with those specs ?

Less TMUs and memory bandwidth than a 780ti but way more ROPs and way more CUDA performance.

With those specs the card will run circles around a 780ti but should be slow in high resolutions.

 

 

better color compression is supposed to make up for it. "supposed to"  :unsure:

[eshbop]

What is Nvidia thinking with those specs ?

Less TMUs and memory bandwidth than a 780ti but way more ROPs and way more CUDA performance.

With those specs the card will run circles around a 780ti but should be slow in high resolutions.

 

Faster clocked vRAM + narrower bus ~= slower vRAM + wider bus

[qwertywarrior]

hope the 256bit thing isnt true

[MEC-777]

In this day and age, it's pretty much impossible to release a new product by surprise - where they keep all details hidden and nobody (the general public) knows anything about it until day one. 

 

I like the way AMD kinda just tossed the new R9-285 out on the table, somewhat out of the blue. But then, not many were anticipating the 285... 

 

Meh, I don't know. Maybe I'm just old-school, but I'm totally content with patiently waiting until day one for new products. Makes it that much more enjoyable. It's often said, and I agree to an extent, that the anticipation of something is often more satisfying than the thing itself.

[Deletive]

that is assuming it will scale accordingly. if it does, I will be all over it like flies on a homeless dude.

 

The architecture is basically made to scale and it should scale

Faster clocked vRAM + narrower bus ~= slower vRAM + wider bus

Much Improved architecture + Faster clocked vRam + Less fetching + 8x more cache + narrower bus ~= Slower vRam + wider bus.

[ACatWithThumbs]

Faster clocked vRAM + a narrower memory bus ~= slower vRAM + wider bus

This was true for the 780ti vs R9-290X but not in this case.

Unless it's a dual 256bit bus or a single 256bit/ 9-10Ghz bus there is no way it's going to come close to the 384bit/7ghz bus of the 780ti.

 

better color compression is supposed to make up for it. "supposed to"  :unsure:

I really hope so because I wanted to upgrade with this series.

[Faa]

A shop has them already listed; http://www.synnex.co.th/Th/Products/SearchProduct.aspx?Search=R1RYOQ==

[Techhog]

I love how people are complaining about  the bus after seeing  the 750 Ti and R9 285...

[Biggerisbetter]

There is too much hype surrounding this new card from Nvidia. The only possible benefit from this new card is a lower TDP. Being a pc enthusiast TDP is not something I worry about. I prefer raw performance power.