THIS CPU IS GOD FOR A 4 YEAR CPU, it just put the 4770k in the bin

[Scouten]

You're not supposed to use 3rd party sata controllers

the options on the board were Sata 6Gb/s with marvell or Sata 3Gbs with intel

[LukaP]

4.92 still going

How's the stability (memory, chipset, io) with a base clock this high?

[ALXAndy]

I am not tanking about the RAID function that the X58 chipset supported. Booting for a 3rd party RAID controller often is not supported by either the card itself of the board.

 

 

People do care about warranty, components can fail within the 2 year warranty, so are even more likely to fail after 4-6 years. 

 

 

First, Devil's Canyon is still Haswell, they use the same socket and 80-series chipsets just need a BIOS update to run them (same with 60-series boards and Ivy Bridge).

Second, the first haswell chips do indeed run hotter but they are still good chips. Intel has been giving us about 10% IPC upgrades for a few generations now, so again, if you expected more, than you were wrong.

 

A third party RAID controller will work fine on X58. I've done it before, twice, with two boards. I had no issues at all.

 

Warranty schmarranty x 2. Eventually you're not going to have one whatever you decide to buy. You could go through three of these CPUs before even reaching the price of one 4790k.

 

I know what Hasfail is mate you don't need to explain it. I expected fuck all, we got, well, fuck all.

 

I also know what Hasfail E is (or Hasfail enormous). It's a CPU and board running horribly expensive ram that can't even keep the fucking pace with my three year old 3970x.

[alihazzi7]

How's the stability (memory, chipset, io) with a base clock this high?

i can run prime without crashing

and cnibench

i can run prime without crashing

and cnibench

5.2 still going

[LukaP]

i can run prime without crashing

and cnibench

How about memtest? And something to give the pcie bus some workout?

[.:MARK:.]

A third party RAID controller will work fine on X58. I've done it before, twice, with two boards. I had no issues at all.

 

Warranty schmarranty x 2. Eventually you're not going to have one whatever you decide to buy. You could go through three of these CPUs before even reaching the price of one 4790k.

 

I know what Hasfail is mate you don't need to explain it. I expected fuck all, we got, well, fuck all.

 

I also know what Hasfail E is (or Hasfail enormous). It's a CPU and board running horribly expensive ram that can't even keep the fucking pace with my three year old 3970x.

 

1. It highly depends when it comes to booting from 3rd party RAID cards, especially on an older platform where support is not as good.

 

2. IF YOU BUY A NEW CHIP YOU GET WARRANTY!

 

3. Why should Intel give us a buttload of stuff when all it will do is increase manufacturing costs, reduce the much needed development time and then they are still better than AMD in the high end.

 

4. Your third point asked for further advances in technologies in newer generations, now you call Haswell-E a failiure? Make up your god damn mind. DDR4 is an advancement and is necessary otherwise we will not move further.

 

5. Haswell-E 5960x can more than keep up with a 3970x, which by the way, I doubt you own since you apparently use an FX-8320.

[Ssoele]

A third party RAID controller will work fine on X58. I've done it before, twice, with two boards. I had no issues at all.

 

Well, you are lucky, often it doesn't.

 

Warranty schmarranty x 2. Eventually you're not going to have one whatever you decide to buy.

 

You are not making much sense here...

 

I know what Hasfail is mate you don't need to explain it. I expected fuck all, we got, well, fuck all.

 

Then why complain, they give you exactly what you expected.

 

I also know what Hasfail E is (or Hasfail enormous). It's a CPU and board running horribly expensive ram that can't even keep the fucking pace with my three year old 3970x.

 

I'm pretty sure you have no experience with Haswell E, so please refrain from saying anything about it. The CPU's are the same price as the generations before, so they are not more expensive. Also, you run a 8320, not a 3970x.

They are the natural upgrade from DDR3 to DDR4, and we have always known that kinds of RAM are always very expensive at the start, no need to be surprised there, the price will go down.

[ALXAndy]

1. It highly depends when it comes to booting from 3rd party RAID cards, especially on an older platform where support is not as good.

 

2. IF YOU BUY A NEW CHIP YOU GET WARRANTY!

 

3. Why should Intel give us a buttload of stuff when all it will do is increase manufacturing costs, reduce the much needed development time and then they are still better than AMD in the high end.

 

4. Your third point asked for further advances in technologies in newer generations, now you call Haswell-E a failiure? Make up your god damn mind. DDR4 is an advancement and is necessary otherwise we will not move further.

 

5. Haswell-E 5960x can more than keep up with a 3970x, which by the way, I doubt you own since you apparently use an FX-8320.

 

1. It always worked for me.

2. If you have a decent PC the last thing that will ever die is the CPU. Stop splitting hairs. How many CPUs have you killed? that would probably be the same as me - none. I killed the cache overclocking a Pentium 60 about 15 years ago but the CPU still ran.

3. Intel have given us nothing to speak of since Sandybridge.

4. Give DDR4 about three years, same as any other DDR launch, then it will be worth making the switch.

5.

 

3970x Titan black SLI etc.

 

 

Alienware Area 51 ALX Westmere hex 2ghz. 670 SLI etc.

 

 

Bitfenix Colossus 8 core IVBE @ 2.3ghz R7990 etc

 

 

 

 

My 4.9ghz 8320 and board (now in the cupboard)

 

 

Happy?

 

Oh. And here's why Hasfail Enormous doesn't excite me.

 

 

And it's completely stable, too.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/3932309?

[Cryptonite]

How's the stability (memory, chipset, io) with a base clock this high?

this is not socket 1155 or 1150. they base clock is not linked to everything else.

[LukaP]

this is not socket 1155 or 1150. they base clock is not linked to everything else.

wasnt it like that on 1366 and 1156 too? i thought they started that after 775. 

[PrinceOfLove]

I have the x5650 with Server 2012r2 and it works great. I already had an x58 board with an i7 920 and I purchased the x5650 off ebay for $75. I have a very slight overclock on it (around 3.2 GHz) and it encodes videos in handbrake faster than my 4770k. I also have a LAMP stack running on it in Hyper-V and it has no problem keeping everything running quickly. I'm sure it's not all that great for gaming or single-threaded applications, but depending on your use case, it could be a great value (especially if you have an old x58 platform lying around).

[Cryptonite]

wasnt it like that on 1366 and 1156 too? i thought they started that after 775. 

1156 I know the ram is a little involved when the Bclock is raised, however if you use high speed ram the ram can't cause a bottleneck since they start off at 1333 MHz.

an i3 530 2.9 GHz can overclock to 3.5-3.6 GHz no problem so long as the ram supports 1600 MHz and can go even higher if the ram supports a faster speed.

[LukaP]

1156 I know the ram is a little involved when the Bclock is raised, however if you use high speed ram the ram can't cause a bottleneck since they start off at 1333 MHz.

an i3 530 2.9 GHz can overclock to 3.5-3.6 GHz no problem so long as the ram supports 1600 MHz and can go even higher if the ram supports a faster speed.

ah yeah, thought they had some correlation on my i5.

[Cryptonite]

ah yeah, thought they had some correlation on my i5.

you feeling a bottleneck from that i5 yet? I doubt it would be huge?

[LukaP]

you feeling a bottleneck from that i5 yet? I doubt it would be huge?

nope in gaming no. but its a pita to render on it. getting a 5820k soon

[Cryptonite]

nope in gaming no. but its a pita to render on it. getting a 5820k soon

yeah, rendering I can imagine being a pita for such an early i5. Anything lower than a 2500k would be a pain since the jump to sandy was a lot larger than the past few jumps.

[LukaP]

yeah, rendering I can imagine being a pita for such an early i5. Anything lower than a 2500k would be a pain since the jump to sandy was a lot larger than the past few jumps.

sandy was around 30-40% better than nahalem. and yes it is, but i manage. i render complex scenes with my gpu these days anyway

[seiny]

 

1. Slower at stock speeds than the 4770K at stock
2. Was more expensive when it launched
3. Uses more power
4. Worse IPC
5. More expensive platform
6. ...

 

6. Much lower single threaded performance

 

OP - That CPU can't compare to a 4770k and you're calling it GOD, please man.

[Cryptonite]

6. Much lower single threaded performance

 

OP - That CPU can't compare to a 4770k and you're calling it GOD, please man.

depending on the situation it can compare to a 4770k, however for single threaded performance it'll be left in the dust no sweat. It's still a good CPU for a 4 year old chip though especially if he got it for a cheap price.

 

Also why haven't I seen you before fellow South African?

[seiny]

depending on the situation it can compare to a 4770k, however for single threaded performance it'll be left in the dust no sweat. It's still a good CPU for a 4 year old chip though especially if he got it for a cheap price.

 

Also why haven't I seen you before fellow South African?

I'm always here, undercover

[alihazzi7]

How about memtest? And something to give the pcie bus some workout?

5.2ghz stable for now hehehehe

my old p6x58d-e board the marvell controller didn't support it

5.2ghz stable at 1.55vcore

[SkilledRebuilds]

5.2ghz stable at 1.55vcore

5.2Ghz Stable/Bench Capable?

[Ssoele]

6. Much lower single threaded performance

 

That's basically IPC.

[harrynowl]

5.2ghz stable at 1.55vcore

hwbot it

[Jumper118]

 

i have 2 of them at stock at work. they seem pretty slow. they are fast in cinebench though. about 3930k speed. if i could oc the yours i could have a cpu more like a 5960x but with more cores!