Lian Li PC-Q19 - A new brushed aluminium Mini-ITX case

[razor767]

Looks quite nice but it's a little too tall (or wide if you have it laid flat).

[kuddlesworth9419]

I'm stuck to just my phone right now, but go to any of the big overclocking websites and ask for performance cases. It'll be aluminum every time. It has a much better thermal conduction. Steel is less than half as good at allowing heat to flow.

As per steel dampening vibrations, nah. It's negligible if it even does.

Well yea but all of those suggestions are not scientific in any way. And most overclocking cases are not cases in the first place. Test beds are used for overclocking simply because there is more airflow and it's easy to pour more liquid nitrogen into the CPU cooler.

[The Crazed Child]

Saw this on one of Tek Syndicate's videos at Computex and I loved it. I want one!

[Khraft]

So close to being the case Valve designed, yet not.

 

 

The perfect itx case imo:

 

Move the PSU down next to the mobo so you can have a longer gpu.

Mount a 140/120mm fan above the mobo.

Open ventilation for the gpu.

Ssd mounts various places.

Minimize unused space as much as possible.

 

Like the Raven rvz-01 / ML07 but more slimmed down like Valve's Steam Machine case.

[Deletive]

A case that is minimal. I sorta want it!

[patrickjp93]

Well yea but all of those suggestions are not scientific in any way. And most overclocking cases are not cases in the first place. Test beds are used for overclocking simply because there is more airflow and it's easy to pour more liquid nitrogen into the CPU cooler.

There are various divisions of overclocking, including passive, air, and liquid cooled. In passive, air, and liquid situations it's aluminum or nothing. Air doesn't conduct heat as well as aluminum, but in LN2 you're trying to keep the cold inside, or insulate the board from the environment. The best LN2 setups are usually surrounded with styrofoam or aerogel.

[Real_PhillBert]

Yarrrr,

 

I like me some brushed aluminium, but Lian-li cases they not be for me. 

Don't like most of their designs.

Your Back!

 

I have noticed the distinct lack of Pirate's around here lately.

[MEC-777]

@patrickjp93 - This isn't a case designed for extreme overclocking. It's designed to be used for HTPC and or moderate gaming. Why are you arguing over a "potential" few degrees C difference in aluminum vs steel for a case that most people won't even be OCing with? 

 

Can you not leave people well enough alone with their personal opinions and preferences? Who cares if someone prefers steel cases. Are they forcing you to buy it? No. So let it go. 

 

This is the second time I've seen you make irrelevant comparisons, it seems, for the sake of argument. 

[patrickjp93]

@patrickjp93 - This isn't a case designed for extreme overclocking. It's designed to be used for HTPC and or moderate gaming. Why are you arguing over a "potential" few degrees C difference in aluminum vs steel for a case that most people won't even be OCing with?

Can you not leave people well enough alone with their personal opinions and preferences? Who cares if someone prefers steel cases. Are they forcing you to buy it? No. So let it go.

This is the second time I've seen you make irrelevant comparisons, it seems, for the sake of argument.

Depending on how you store said HTPC that can make the difference between thermal throttling and not if you want near silence.

[MoonSpot]

*Warning an opinion incoming*

I'd opt for using this case in the workplace rather than an htpc. With only 1 3.5" drive, I've a hard time thinking it would be remotely suitable as a HTPC.

However a slim sleek design like that could be great for accounts, receptionists and most non-IT(CPU/GPU intensive) workplace users.

But that might be just my thinking. I often think of lian li cases as impact pieces to be seen by customers and partners.

[zacRupnow]

Uh Lian Li is finally on the magnetic dustfilter wagon. Very nice. They seem to finally understand the importance (or marketdemand) for proper dust filter solutions. Now if they would only make a mAtx version of my v700 with vertical PSU, I would be very happy.

Only, just like Corsair , they think a rock filtering mesh counts as a dust filter.

[Fetzie]

Looks quite good, but I'm saving up for Lian Li's train engine mITX case for my HTPC.

[TheProfosist]

Its so tiny

[JAKEBAB]

looks really tall

[TheProfosist]

ok so its way bigger than I thought.

[MEC-777]

Depending on how you store said HTPC that can make the difference between thermal throttling and not if you want near silence.

 

Work loads on typical HTPC's isn't much, it's highly unlikely to run into thermal throttling. And in the situation that you do happen to box the thing in air-tight (blocking most or all vents), it won't matter what the case is made of - it's still going to trap the warm air. 

[patrickjp93]

Work loads on typical HTPC's isn't much, it's highly unlikely to run into thermal throttling. And in the situation that you do happen to box the thing in air-tight (blocking most or all vents), it won't matter what the case is made of - it's still going to trap the warm air. 

As Linus demonstrated with his HTPC fan mod video.

[MEC-777]

As Linus demonstrated with his HTPC fan mod video.

Right. Because HTPC's need air flow not aluminum cases.

[patrickjp93]

Right. Because HTPC's need air flow not aluminum cases.

They do best with both.

[Misanthrope]

Cool for an HTPC but I really don't think there's much use for gaming: 220mm it's too short for most cards (that 760 they show is likely the best it can fit) plus even if it could fit I wouldn't trust anything beefier seeing how they made the baffling choice of skipping ventilation holes for where the GPU would go AND also blocking it's airflow from the bottom with a 3.5hdd

 

Yeah just stick to an APU or a 750ti max.

[MEC-777]

They do best with both.

 

Proper ventilation will do far more for lowering temps than using aluminum vs steel, was my point.

 

Cool for an HTPC but I really don't think there's much use for gaming: 220mm it's too short for most cards (that 760 they show is likely the best it can fit) plus even if it could fit I wouldn't trust anything beefier seeing how they made the baffling choice of skipping ventilation holes for where the GPU would go AND also blocking it's airflow from the bottom with a 3.5hdd

 

Yeah just stick to an APU or a 750ti max.

 

The new R7-250XE could also be a good choice. Decent performance (similar to 7770) with low power requirements.

[Misanthrope]

Proper ventilation will do far more for lowering temps than using aluminum vs steel, was my point.

The new R7-250XE could also be a good choice. Decent performance (similar to 7770) with low power requirements.

I still think it might throttle the thing has 0 ventilation for gpus. This is always an issue with lian li that's why Li us had to make a video and literally drill it. I just do get why people keep getting excited.

[MEC-777]

I still think it might throttle the thing has 0 ventilation for gpus. This is always an issue with lian li that's why Li us had to make a video and literally drill it. I just do get why people keep getting excited.

 

Yeah, there isn't too much in the way of air flow in this case. Only room for one 120mm exhaust fan and things are pretty tight inside. The R7-250XE is even lower-power than the 750/Ti, so it might be ok. But yeah, there's no fresh air intake for the GPU which could be a problem if you start pushing the system, playing demanding games etc.

 

I really like my Silverstone ML05 HTPC case. It doesn't have room for a full height GPU but has pretty good airflow, is small and compact with minimalistic styling and didn't cost an arm and a leg.

[rmac52]

And how does it improve thermal performance. It isn't in any direct contact with any component that needs cooling. If it had thermal paste on the side panel with the CPU in direct contact with a side panel and heatsink fans I would understand what you mean but it isn't.

The heatsink on the CPU pulls heat from the CPU and puts it in the case. Normally you exhaust that hot air with fans. With an all aluminum case the metal of the case will absorb some of that heat. The heat from the case will then be transfered to the air around the case. Thus removing heat from the inside of the case.

[kuddlesworth9419]

The heatsink on the CPU pulls heat from the CPU and puts it in the case. Normally you exhaust that hot air with fans. With an all aluminum case the metal of the case will absorb some of that heat. The heat from the case will then be transfered to the air around the case. Thus removing heat from the inside of the case.

Yes that is tru but not much heat is absorbed by the case. Most of the heat is blown out the back usually.