Intel Broadwell Information (Intel Core M)

[The Crazed Child]

What would be the purpose of such a chip though?

 

Edit: low-power academic setting computers with vPro tech attached? It's a large-scale environment frankly perfect for that...hmm... Maybe I should try to have Intel hire me as a market analyst/consultant.

I would buy one for an HTPC or a LAN machine. Intel know that DDR3 is the bottleneck with integrated graphics now, so they put memory on the chip itself.

[Deletive]

I mean Hell, Apple managed to force Intel to accelerate and accentuate their iGPU development for the purpose of Retina display, and now so many high-res tablets depend on Iris Pro instead of an AMD APU. People can say Intel's graphics suck all they want. They haven't had the real thing just yet.

yeah, people are still in the ivy bridge days for igpu's it seems... now iris pro is looking really good... probably with this ~40% improve it'll put it near a a8 7600/a10 7700k? maybe for igpu performance. hopefully; than skylake will be equal  around carrizo (according to the rumors saying it'll still have 8 gpu units just with GCN 3.0) 

 

I would buy one for an HTPC or a LAN machine. Intel know that DDR3 is the bottleneck with integrated graphics now, so they put memory on the chip itself.

Well they have money to fix every problem they have so I wouldn't really worry about bottlenecks

I hope apple just pecks at their doors about a good ipc improvement with skylake enough to make it a big enough upgrade.

[patrickjp93]

I would buy one for an HTPC or a LAN machine. Intel know that DDR3 is the bottleneck with integrated graphics now, so they put memory on the chip itself.

There's very little need for them to put eDRAM onto their chips though. With the already huge amount of cache available Intel's chips don't benefit from high-speed RAM as much as AMD's chips do. Intel specifically built their caching algorithm to stay "far enough ahead" of a running program to keep the pipeline fed and minimize the number of far-jump operations which stall the CPU while calling for a block of data from RAM. AMD decided to chase clock rates and put on so much GPU power they crippled the chip's ability to function with existing tech.

 

I don't know why this is, but Intel never seems to make the stupid moves AMD does with overall design.

[The Crazed Child]

There's very little need for them to put eDRAM onto their chips though. With the already huge amount of cache available Intel's chips don't benefit from high-speed RAM as much as AMD's chips do. Intel specifically built their caching algorithm to stay "far enough ahead" of a running program to keep the pipeline fed and minimize the number of far-jump operations which stall the CPU while calling for a block of data from RAM. AMD decided to chase clock rates and put on so much GPU power they crippled the chip's ability to function with existing tech.

 

I don't know why this is, but Intel never seems to make the stupid moves AMD does with overall design.

Hmmm interesting.

[patrickjp93]

yeah, people are still in the ivy bridge days for igpu's it seems... now iris pro is looking really good... probably with this ~40% improve it'll put it near a a8 7600/a10 7700k? maybe for igpu performance. hopefully; than skylake will be equal  around carrizo (according to the rumors saying it'll still have 8 gpu units just with GCN 3.0) 

 

Well they have money to fix every problem they have so I wouldn't really worry about bottlenecks

I hope apple just pecks at their doors about a good ipc improvement with skylake enough to make it a big enough upgrade.

Carrizo is a more revolutionary chip than it sounds. It will be the first true APU with fully-implemented HSA. Unified memory, heterogeneous chip, and the GPU cores can schedule tasks for themselves as long as the programming has been done correctly. AMD is still stuck with the 28nm process and thus couldn't pack 1 billion more transistors onto the die, but they will finally have their big HSA project complete. Of course, software needs to support it for the performance gains to show up, but you get the idea of a CPU not having to cue and queue up data for a GPU task saving a lot of CPU clock cycles.

[Deletive]

Carrizo is a more revolutionary chip than it sounds. It will be the first true APU with fully-implemented HSA. Unified memory, heterogeneous chip, and the GPU cores can schedule tasks for themselves as long as the programming has been done correctly. AMD is still stuck with the 28nm process and thus couldn't pack 1 billion more transistors onto the die, but they will finally have their big HSA project complete. Of course, software needs to support it for the performance gains to show up, but you get the idea of a CPU not having to cue and queue up data for a GPU task saving a lot of CPU clock cycles.

Yeah i'm actually interested in this chip. hope HSA goes somewhere.

[SuperfastJellyfish]

not a bad concept, but imagine one of these in a asus rog G750 , at full load, the fan would barely have to be moving and pretty dang silent, assuming gpu is not under load

AND battery life. Gaming laptops will only get better with this new tech

[Trik'Stari]

 On a scale of 1 to 10? 

It's between 'shouldn't worry about it' and 'don't bother'.

As I thought. Thanks

[Socky]

I am excite.

[Heisenbleurgh]

I guess right now's a bad time to buy a laptop then.

[Toddwjp]

I guess right now's a bad time to buy a laptop then.

 

its always a bad time to buy a laptop

[Heisenbleurgh]

its always a bad time to buy a laptop

you're right, silly me should carry his desktop to work and college  :rolleyes:

[Toddwjp]

i mean how fast laptop tech moves compared to price changes is so fast that its never the right time, not don't get a laptop. eg in 5 months there will be a cheaper model with better specs, you just sort of have to dive in and not regret after about a year

[bane0of0god]

i know they wont but im holding out hope for a socketable 25w - 30w cpu part form this gen that can do in steam home streaming. that dream the slient htpc thats tiny