8350 vs 4770k

[wazza1212]

Hello,

I have an fx 8120, I could get an 8350 and new psu and a h100i, or I could get the 4770k and a new motherboard, which would be best?

Thanks in advance:-)

[SpyRosL]

Depends on what are you using your computer for

[Katsu-K1L]

Well for gaming an I5 would be better but if you want to do Heavy video editing and rendering  get an I7 the extra threads would help a lot, the 8350 is cheaper and is tottaly fine for gaming, so it all depends on what you will be doing.

[piggykid1]

Depends on what are you using your computer for

Yup

[wazza1212]

Mainly gaming, and a bit of video editing! What would be an average overlock for the 8350?

[SpyRosL]

Mainly gaming, and a bit of video editing! What would be an average overlock for the 8350?

8350 is fine but if you play mostly MMOs,the performance difference between intel vs amd is tremendous.I then,would suggest go for intel.

Overclock is a pure luck, you might get 5ghz you might not get anything. I would say the avg is ~4.4-4.5ghz

[wazza1212]

8350 is fine but if you play mostly MMOs,the performance difference between intel vs amd is tremendous.I then,would suggest go for intel.

Overclock is a pure luck, you might get 5ghz you might not get anything. I would say the avg is ~4.4-4.5ghz

Okay, I think I may go for the 8350 then, just so I can upgrade other parts of the system?

[flibberdipper]

If you want to do heavy duty gaming (like MMOs) go Intel. If you do a lot of video editing, go Intel. Otherwise, stick with what you have.

[helping]

Okay, I think I may go for the 8350 then, just so I can upgrade other parts of the system?

I would get a 4770k and a new motherboard.

 

Your PSU and CPU cooler are already pretty good.. no need for a new PSU, you're not using very much power, and you already have one of the top end air coolers. Just add another fan to it.

 

You don't seem to like overclocking much, if you get a 8350 it's not going to be that big of an improvement versus an 8120.

[wazza1212]

I would get a 4770k and a new motherboard.

 

Your PSU and CPU cooler are already pretty good.. no need for a new PSU, you're not using very much power, and you already have one of the top end air coolers. Just add another fan to it.

 

You don't seem to like overclocking much, if you get a 8350 it's not going to be that big of an improvement versus an 8120.

Okay, how much more performance in games will I see?

[ltguy]

Whatever you buy makes sure its something you can keep longer than that fx8120, geesh.

[helping]

Okay, how much more performance in games will I see?

It depends on the game, but on CPU bound and games without good multicore optimizations, the gains are significant.

 

The 4770k is your best option since your other path isn't much of an upgrade.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Okay, how much more performance in games will I see?

15 to 20% MAXIMUM improvement is what you are looking at and this is factoring in the better overclocking headroom that the piledriver based FX-83xx have...not a worthy upgrade at all.

You should look into either a core i5 or a core i7.

[VintageCake]

Hello,

I have an fx 8120, I could get an 8350 and new psu and a h100i, or I could get the 4770k and a new motherboard, which would be best?

Thanks in advance:-)

 

I'd just get a 4690k and a new z97 board along with a 212+ or something.

4790k is not worth it if you're just gaming, but maybe if you feel that you want about 20-30% better rendering times on videos, then yeah. Go for it.

[i_build_nanosuits]

4790k is not worth it if you're just gaming, but maybe if you feel that you want about 20-30% better rendering times on videos, then yeah. Go for it.

...or if you're into playing watch dogs and other great modern games that makes good use of more threads processing and in wich a core i7 makes a good noticeable difference when paired with an high-end GPU!

 

here:

 

 

http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/166470-watch-dogs-intel-cpu-benchmarked-pentium-to-core-i7/

[Faa]

It depends on the game, but on CPU bound and games without good multicore optimizations, the gains are significant.

 

The 4770k is your best option since your other path isn't much of an upgrade.

Someone should sponsor you a 4770k for your quality feedback. Slightly getting tired of people recommending to upgrade their BD to PD. Seems to be making a world of difference to them >.>

[i_build_nanosuits]

Slightly getting tired of people recommending to upgrade their BD to PD. Seems to be making a world of difference to them >.>

what does that mean man? :huh:

[Priller]

15 to 20% MAXIMUM improvement is what you are looking at and this is factoring in the better overclocking headroom that the piledriver based FX-83xx have...not a worthy upgrade at all.

You should look into either a core i5 or a core i7.

 

You do know the difference between a 3770K and 4770K is 7%, yet many people have "upgraded" because it was better.

 

Between IPC increase and the higher clock speed it equals about 1.2Ghz by just doing a CPU change.(8120 to 8350)

[MrKaiDow]

I would recommend you stick with your current CPU, with the current gen consoles running 8 cores it wont be long untill AMD CPUs are better then before. Obviously It comes down to some factors, You already have the 8120, so you could upgrade other components and be a beast of a machine (Upgrading to an 8350 wouldn't be worth it, trust me) Or you could get the 4770k/4790k, both of which are totally OP for gaming.

Now as you said you could get a corsair H100i and a new PSU and have around £140 left that you would've spent on the 8350, but can now spend elsewhere.

I mean if you really want to go Intel, you will definatly see a performance boost in some games; With that said as I said before more and more games are becoming Multi-core optimized so it wouldn't be long untill the i7 and the 8120/8350 would be basically neck and neck.

(sorry for my bad english, I suck at proof reading)

[MrKaiDow]

I would recommend you stick with your current CPU, with the current gen consoles running 8 cores it wont be long untill AMD CPUs are better then before. Obviously It comes down to some factors, You already have the 8120, so you could upgrade other components and be a beast of a machine (Upgrading to an 8350 wouldn't be worth it, trust me) Or you could get the 4770k/4790k, both of which are totally OP for gaming.

Now as you said you could get a corsair H100i and a new PSU and have around £140 left that you would've spent on the 8350, but can now spend elsewhere.

I mean if you really want to go Intel, you will definatly see a performance boost in some games; With that said as I said before more and more games are becoming Multi-core optimized so it wouldn't be long untill the i7 and the 8120/8350 would be basically neck and neck.

(sorry for my bad english, I suck at proof reading)

As I recall the 8120 is a 3.2Ghz base clock? I am running my 8320 at 4.9GHz on 760G (A chipset nearly 4 years old) and I reckon with a corsair H100i on your 8120 you could get some beast overclock.

But it comes down to the silicon lottery, As you said you do some video editing. In which case the i7 would benefit you, but in games, there would be basically no difference.

[vm'N]

You do know the difference between a 3770K and 4770K is 7%, yet many people have "upgraded" because it was better.

 

Between IPC increase and the higher clock speed it equals about 1.2Ghz by just doing a CPU change.(8120 to 8350)

That depends on the workload. Haswell can be up to twice as fast in some cases where they utilize the new ISAs.

 

Example; Check out AVX2 (supported by Haswell) vs AVX or SSE4

 

Haswell for some was only a minor upgrade from IV, when for other was a HUGE upgrade. All depend on your usages.

[i_build_nanosuits]

You do know the difference between a 3770K and 4770K is 7%, yet many people have "upgraded" because it was better.

 

Between IPC increase and the higher clock speed it equals about 1.2Ghz by just doing a CPU change.(8120 to 8350)

yes i know, i would never qualify an upgrade from ivy to haswell a ''worthy'' upgrade, heck even an upgrade from sandy to haswell isnt justified...maybe going from core i5-2500 to core i7-4790K would be a worthy upgrade in SOME cases...

but i know piledriver is superior it clocks much higher and has stronger single core performance all that while throwing less heat and eating less energy...but i still don,t think 8 core bull vs 8 core pile is a worthy upgrade that i would recommend

unless it could be done for very cheap...like catching up an amazing deal on an FX-8320 and being able to sell the bull for a correct fair price (which is very hard to do)

[Faa]

That depends on the workload. Haswell can be up to twice as fast in some cases where they utilize the new ISAs.

 

Example; Check out AVX2 (supported by Haswell) vs AVX or SSE4

 

Haswell for some was only a minor upgrade from IV, when for other was a HUGE upgrade. All depend on your usages.

The increase in mmo's seems to be significant, 20% is a lot. Not many benchmarks out there that tried to bench them while being cpu bound: http://www.pcgameshardware.de/screenshots/original/2013/09/SC2HotS-pcgh.png

The rule 4.8GHz SB ~= 4.5GHz IB ~= 4.2GHz HW no longer counts there. I did notice a bunch of difference between a 4670k at 4.6GHz vs my 3930K at 4.5-4.6GHz in star swarm probs 15-20 fps >.< Haswell is any time worth it over SB/IB if you're guaranteed it will hit something like 4.8GHz at acceptable voltages. Games I play I'd never have enough cpu performance, more and more IPC is always welcome.

[vm'N]

The biggest problem with gaming is the bad optimization for the architecture.

 

Because the architecture is so differently, they need to code the game so it runs decently all architectures. Hence why games aren't considered to be stressing the CPU.

 

Also the reason why the consoles aren't doing that bad.

[TwistedDictator]

This will help you :

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9oQQ8U1PgM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqJWGxq0f7k

 

 

Seen him on a different forum. What I like his not biased at all!