PC for machine learning and gaming?

[dagome_iudex]

Budget (including currency): 1000 USD / ~4000 PLN

Country: Poland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: When it comes to games I will play GTA 5, Elite Dangerous, Halo Infinite, Cyber Punk 2077. The biggest tool on the hardware (especially GPU) will be probably my development job in machine learning – training models, evaluating them, building apps around them.

Other details: 
These are the parts that I plan to build. RTX will be used thus lowering its cost to around 372 USD. Any suggestions

GPU RTX ASUS TUF 3070 Ti CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X MB ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 RAM Kingston fury renegade ddr4 32GB 3600 mhz POWER MSI MAG A550BN 550W CASE Genesis Irid 503 V2 (NPC-1558) SSD Lexar NM710 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-E x4 Gen4 NVMe

[emosun]

fix the powersupply field

[dagome_iudex]

2 minutes ago, emosun said:

fix the powersupply field

here ya go

[podkall]

35 minutes ago, dagome_iudex said:

here ya go

you use RAM for PSU? bold mve

[MiszS]

4 minutes ago, podkall said:

you use RAM for PSU? bold mve

nah, i've done that, and it works for me, just make sure 32GB, which he did

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, MiszS said:

nah, i've done that, and it works for me, just make sure 32GB, which he did

good to know, normally running 3070ti you'd want like a 600W minimum PSU on AM4 and like a 750W minimum if you're Intel, but I guess 32GB of Kinston Fury Renegade RAM will have to do..

[MiszS]

44 minutes ago, dagome_iudex said:

Budget (including currency): 1000 USD / ~4000 PLN

Country: Poland

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: When it comes to games I will play GTA 5, Elite Dangerous, Halo Infinite, Cyber Punk 2077. The biggest tool on the hardware (especially GPU) will be probably my development job in machine learning – training models, evaluating them, building apps around them.

Other details: 
These are the parts that I plan to build. RTX will be used thus lowering its cost to around 372 USD. Any suggestions

GPU RTX ASUS TUF 3070 Ti CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600X MB ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 RAM Kingston fury renegade ddr4 32GB 3600 mhz POWER Kingston Fury Renegade, DDR4, 32 GB, 3600MHz, CL16 CASE Genesis Irid 503 V2 (NPC-1558) SSD Lexar NM710 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-E x4 Gen4 NVMe

If you are going to do machine learning, you can save up for a 12600kf, which only costs 135pln more, and the gpu is probably the best you'll get for this price

[podkall]

Also quality, don't buy a PSU that's a random timer time bomb that fries your other components

[podkall]

6 minutes ago, MiszS said:

If you are going to do machine learning, you can save up for a 12600kf, which only costs 135pln more, and the gpu is probably the best you'll get for this price

sigh, lets see,

 

idk if the motherboard is good, but this would be the core without GPU: (+15-20% taxes because US prices are just lower)

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600KF 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($154.65 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AG620 67.88 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B660M-A D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *Silicon Power GAMING 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  ($33.97 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Deepcool CC360 ARGB MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.00 @ MSI)
Total: $630.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-13 17:07 EDT-0400

[podkall]

AM5 core no GPU:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($199.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($32.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B650M-P Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard  ($119.00 @ MSI)
Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Zenith Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory  ($97.97 @ B&H)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Deepcool CC360 ARGB MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.00 @ MSI)
Total: $710.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-13 17:17 EDT-0400

 

AM4 core no GPU:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X 3.4 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($168.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AG400 75.89 CFM CPU Cooler  ($21.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Prime B450M-A II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($71.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Deepcool CC360 ARGB MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($57.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.00 @ MSI)
Total: $523.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-13 17:19 EDT-0400

[podkall]

The builds use 850 because it's cheaper in US but 750W would suffice too (for 3070ti that is)

[dagome_iudex]

On 4/13/2024 at 10:53 PM, podkall said:

you use RAM for PSU? bold mve

Whoops, sorry, the spreadsheet was overwritten.

[podkall]

On 4/13/2024 at 10:13 PM, dagome_iudex said:

 

MSI MAG A550BN 550W

 

it's a decent PSU, though Nvidia recommends 650W PSU for 3070Ti, so if it's possible to find decent quality PSU with 600/650W that would be better,

 

MAG A550BN might work, but if it's not enough you'd have to jump through hoops of setting up custom voltage every time you start your PC. (or having to buy different PSU)

[podkall]

If you have room in your budget, I'd suggest a PSU with 650W and decent quality at least.

[podkall]

This could be a decent build that could probably handle 3070Ti, idk how the prices are in Poland but I used Germany prices so it should be close:

• if u dont mind running stock cooler, that's also possible to save ~20€
• You can use your case, all required is parts fitting physically inside case (gpu, cpu cooler)
• Same with RAM, preferred speed is CL16-18 (lower is better) and 3200-3600Mhz
• MP44L is cheaper in Germany than Lexar 710, another decent SSD would be WD Blue SN580 which is also cheaper than 710 Lexar based on Germany prices (Blue SN580 is actually overall better than both other mentioned SSDs)
• Any other questions I can answer
• Motherboard almost same dirt you have, if you want recommendation for cheapest MB that could handle faster CPUs than 5600 for potential upgrades let me know
• Get 5600, 5600x is almost same CPU with more unlocked voltage and higher base clocks, but they are almost identical
• The PSU is not my favourite to pair with 3070Ti, but should work without exploding

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€108.00 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AG400 75.89 CFM CPU Cooler  (€24.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B450M-K II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€51.60 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: *G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€37.90 @ Alza)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€124.46 @ Galaxus)
Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (€54.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 10 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€60.83 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €462.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-15 10:42 CEST+0200

 

On 4/13/2024 at 10:13 PM, dagome_iudex said:

RTX ASUS TUF 3070 Ti

 

similarly fast are also 2080Ti and 4070 if you can possibly find those for cheaper

[dagome_iudex]

On 4/15/2024 at 10:43 AM, podkall said:

This could be a decent build that could probably handle 3070Ti, idk how the prices are in Poland but I used Germany prices so it should be close:

• if u dont mind running stock cooler, that's also possible to save ~20€
• You can use your case, all required is parts fitting physically inside case (gpu, cpu cooler)
• Same with RAM, preferred speed is CL16-18 (lower is better) and 3200-3600Mhz
• MP44L is cheaper in Germany than Lexar 710, another decent SSD would be WD Blue SN580 which is also cheaper than 710 Lexar based on Germany prices (Blue SN580 is actually overall better than both other mentioned SSDs)
• Any other questions I can answer
• Motherboard almost same dirt you have, if you want recommendation for cheapest MB that could handle faster CPUs than 5600 for potential upgrades let me know
• Get 5600, 5600x is almost same CPU with more unlocked voltage and higher base clocks, but they are almost identical
• The PSU is not my favourite to pair with 3070Ti, but should work without exploding

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€108.00 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AG400 75.89 CFM CPU Cooler  (€24.90 @ Alza)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B450M-K II Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€51.60 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: *G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory  (€37.90 @ Alza)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44L 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive  (€124.46 @ Galaxus)
Case: Montech X3 Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case  (€54.90 @ Alza)
Power Supply: be quiet! System Power 10 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€60.83 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €462.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-04-15 10:42 CEST+0200

 

similarly fast are also 2080Ti and 4070 if you can possibly find those for cheaper

Thank you for this ^ . I'm gonna look into it.

[podkall]

4 hours ago, dagome_iudex said:

Thank you for this ^ . I'm gonna look into it.

feel free to come back with any questions anytime

[dagome_iudex]

On 4/16/2024 at 6:43 PM, podkall said:

feel free to come back with any questions anytime

Thank you!

I have switched up some things in my setup:

GPU	RTX ASUS TUF 3070 Ti
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600x
MB	ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0
RAM	Lexar Thor, DDR4, 32 GB, 3200MHz, CL16			New
POWER	Endorfy Vero L5 Bronze 700W			New
CASE	Genesis Irid 503 V2 (NPC-1558)
SSD	Lexar NM710 2TB M.2 2280 PCI-E x4 Gen4 NVMe

 

I have upgraded the power supply to 650W like you said. I also have found cheaper alternatives for RAM with 3200MHz speeds and CL speed at 16. Might this be a better combination?

 

[podkall]

8 minutes ago, dagome_iudex said:

I have upgraded the power supply to 650W like you said. I also have found cheaper alternatives for RAM with 3200MHz speeds and CL speed at 16. Might this be a better combination?

sure, not my favourite PSU for 30 series card though, any other options? feel free to list all of them

[dagome_iudex]

49 minutes ago, podkall said:

sure, not my favourite PSU for 30 series card though, any other options? feel free to list all of them

• ADATA XPG Pylon 650W (PYLON650B-BKCEU)
• Gigabyte P650G 650W (GP-P650G)
• Modecom Volcano 650W
• Thermaltake Litepower II Black 650W (PS-LTP-0650NPCNEU-2)
• Endorfy Vero L5 Bronze 700W

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, dagome_iudex said:

ADATA XPG Pylon 650W (PYLON650B-BKCEU)

this one looks decent

[dagome_iudex]

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

this one looks decent

Sweet, thanks! What do you think about the RAM change?

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, dagome_iudex said:

Sweet, thanks! What do you think about the RAM change?

it's fine, price or brand don't matter if it's now for RAM that much, DDR4 especially, that one's a solved platform basically