3060 12gb vs 4060 8gb vs 7600 8gb

[Daonebest]

I want to upgrade my GPU to last the next 3-4 years. I've Identified these three cards as in my price range, with minor differences in price. However I'm having some difficulty choosing which one.

 

What Should I go for?

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Daonebest said:

I want to upgrade my GPU to last the next 3-4 years. I've Identified these three cards as in my price range, with minor differences in price. However I'm having some difficulty choosing which one.

 

What Should I go for?

it depends which games you play. What're your current specs?

[podkall]

6 minutes ago, Daonebest said:

with minor differences in price.

how minor is the price difference?

[Daonebest]

5 minutes ago, filpo said:

it depends which games you play. What're your current specs?

I've checked combability for all three. My specs match. 10th gen I5. 32gb ram. Mid range MSI motherboard. I also have a 750 power supply so power isn't much of a concern. I was just running on an underpowered 1050 ti before because GPU prices were high when I built my PC.

 

Most of my games run on my current rig. It sometimes struggles though. Halo infinite has caused issues and it sometimes struggles in VR. I also want to play helldivers 2.

[Daonebest]

7 minutes ago, podkall said:

how minor is the price difference?

7600: £267  3060: £279   4060: £288

[powertoys]

If you are doing anything at all outside of gaming, get the 3060 12 GB. The VRAM is FAR more useful than you can imagine.

[Daonebest]

2 minutes ago, Daonebest said:

I've checked combability for all three. My specs match. 10th gen I5. 32gb ram. Mid range MSI motherboard. I also have a 750 power supply so power isn't much of a concern. I was just running on an underpowered 1050 ti before because GPU prices were high when I built my PC.

 

Most of my games run on my current rig. It sometimes struggles though. Halo infinite has caused issues and it sometimes struggles in VR. I also want to play helldivers 2.

rd2 and stalker 2 are other demanding games I want to play in the near future

[Daonebest]

1 minute ago, powertoys said:

If you are doing anything at all outside of gaming, get the 3060 12 GB. The VRAM is FAR more useful than you can imagine.

The only thing I do outside of gaming is some CAD, which I can also run fine on my laptop. 

[podkall]

7 minutes ago, Daonebest said:

I was just running on an underpowered 1050 ti before because GPU prices were high when I built my PC.

oh my poor brother

 

anyways the 4060 should be fastest, the prices actually check themself out:

(though the RX 7600 isn't that much behind in raster performance it seems)

 

 

5 minutes ago, powertoys said:

If you are doing anything at all outside of gaming, get the 3060 12 GB. The VRAM is FAR more useful than you can imagine.

VRAM can be a waste if it's 1080p or if it's not that fast of a card,

 

they're only like 30% faster than GTX 1080, which is significant, but same significant 30% VRAM bump wouldn't really be justified, because with that logic a bump from 1080 to 4090 would leave 4090 having 33GB instead of 24GB which it has

 

 

[podkall]

This is a benchmark from 6 months ago: (with commentary, but it's 25 minutes long)

 

[powertoys]

Just now, podkall said:

VRAM can be a waste if it's 1080p or if it's not that fast of a card,

 

Welcome to stable diffusion, where the 3060 12 gb kicks ass and is highly regarded as the #1 budget GPU if you want to get into AI

 

 

(and the next worthy successor is the 4060 Ti 16 GB)

 

Modern reviewers treat GPUs like toys. They are FAR more than that.

[filpo]

12 minutes ago, powertoys said:

If you are doing anything at all outside of gaming, get the 3060 12 GB. The VRAM is FAR more useful than you can imagine.

As a 3060 owner, it's not that useful. RDR2 doesn't use that much VRAM and stalker 2 neither I'm pretty sure

9 minutes ago, podkall said:

VRAM can be a waste if it's 1080p or if it's not that fast of a card

agreed. When I'm playing even FH5 on high at 1440p it doesn't use more than 6gb

 

14 minutes ago, Daonebest said:

rd2 and stalker 2 are other demanding games I want to play in the near future

My pick would be a 6650 xt if you don't need the AV1 creature comforts since it should be cheaper. Then again, a used 2080 ti should be around the same price

 

1 minute ago, powertoys said:

Welcome to stable diffusion, where the 3060 12 gb kicks ass and is highly regarded as the #1 budget GPU if you want to get into AI

 

 

(and the next worthy successor is the 4060 Ti 16 GB)

 

Modern reviewers treat GPUs like toys. They are FAR more than that.

And where in the post does it say they want to get into AI?

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, powertoys said:

Welcome to stable diffusion, where the 3060 12 gb kicks ass and is highly regarded as the #1 budget GPU if you want to get into AI

ah yes, AI, the thing that 95% of average users never really use

 

1 minute ago, filpo said:

agreed. When I'm playing even FH5 on high at 1440p it doesn't use more than 6gb

we're old, FH5 is 2021 game bruhder

[powertoys]

Just now, filpo said:

As a 3060 owner, it's not that useful. RDR2 doesn't use that much VRAM and stalker 2 neither I'm pretty sure

 

I did address this:

17 minutes ago, powertoys said:

If you are doing anything at all outside of gaming, get the 3060 12 GB. The VRAM is FAR more useful than you can imagine.

 

1 minute ago, filpo said:

And where in the post does it say they want to get into AI?

I was responding to a person who claimed that more VRAM isn't useful on lower tier cards, which is objectively false if you don't use GPUs exclusively as toys

[OhYou_]

I play palworld at 1080p and it consumes 6gb of vram on my 3060.  8gb vram cards are dead in 2 years.

[filpo]

4 minutes ago, powertoys said:

which is objectively false if you don't use GPUs exclusively as toys

yes but that's not related to the post. Unless I missed something

 

4 minutes ago, powertoys said:

objectively false if you don't use GPUs exclusively as toys

some workloads are GPU intensive but not VRAM intensive

 

OP is doing CAD which runs fine on their laptop so it should run fine on a GPU that no doubt, has double the vram

[podkall]

22 minutes ago, powertoys said:

I was responding to a person who claimed that more VRAM isn't useful on lower tier cards, which is objectively false if you don't use GPUs exclusively as toys

I mean, you proved your point, but it's still a very specific use-case

[Middcore]

24 minutes ago, powertoys said:

I did address this:

 

I was responding to a person who claimed that more VRAM isn't useful on lower tier cards, which is objectively false if you don't use GPUs exclusively as toys

if you don't use GPUs for what the overwhelming majority of people use them for, you mean.

[powertoys]

3 minutes ago, OhYou_ said:

I play palworld at 1080p and it consumes 6gb of vram on my 3060.  8gb vram cards are dead in 2 years.

28 minutes ago, podkall said:

I mean, you proved your point, but it's still a very specific use-case

25 minutes ago, Middcore said:

if you don't use GPUs for what the overwhelming majority of people use them for, you mean.

Even if your only use case is gaming, you should be aware that the gap between the 3060 and the 4060 is actually shrinking instead of following the historical trend of going up.

 

8 GB makes you hostage of developer optimization. Developers heavily prioritize consoles. Hint: current generation consoles have 16 GB VRAM. Make of that what you will.

[OhYou_]

11 minutes ago, powertoys said:

Hint: current generation consoles have 16 GB VRAM

yeah I think the only thing holding on to 8gb vram is that afaik all the mobile gpus still only have 8gb vram.
I expect the very next gen of mobile gpus will stop that nonsense and we will see 12-16gb models finally

[podkall]

2 hours ago, powertoys said:

Even if your only use case is gaming, you should be aware that the gap between the 3060 and the 4060 is actually shrinking instead of following the historical trend of going up.

 

8 GB makes you hostage of developer optimization. Developers heavily prioritize consoles. Hint: current generation consoles have 16 GB VRAM. Make of that what you will.

1 hour ago, OhYou_ said:

yeah I think the only thing holding on to 8gb vram is that afaik all the mobile gpus still only have 8gb vram.
I expect the very next gen of mobile gpus will stop that nonsense and we will see 12-16gb models finally

 

and what are the below 8GB GPU users supposed to do? go eff themself and "I guess I won't be able to play this game"?

 

sounds very strategic to make game so demanding it's likely not to get bought just because average hardware cannot run it..

[OhYou_]

31 minutes ago, podkall said:

and what are the below 8GB GPU users supposed to do? go eff themself and "I guess I won't be able to play this game"?

yep. just like 4gb users had to deal with 3 years ago and 6gb users have to deal with now

[podkall]

1 hour ago, OhYou_ said:

yep. just like 4gb users had to deal with 3 years ago and 6gb users have to deal with now

I used on GTX 1050 for 6 years, and it was plenty for most of the games I played

[Daonebest]

So, In conclusion. The 3060 12gb is perhaps looking like the best option? It may fit the rest of my hardware best too in terms of age