Ryzen 9 5950X never going below 4.4ghz

[Sanedish]

Hi, i recently bought an R9 5950X and it is idling at 60°c, wich seemed too high for me. so i looked at the clock rate and it never goes below 4.4ghz, why is that?

I use an NZXT Kraken X73 RGB as a cooler.

[Hinjima]

5 minutes ago, Sanedish said:

Hi, i recently bought an R9 5950X and it is idling at 60°c, wich seemed too high for me. so i looked at the clock rate and it never goes below 4.4ghz, why is that?

I use an NZXT Kraken X73 RGB as a cooler.

is your power plan set to Performance instead of balanced?

[GuiltySpark_]

8 minutes ago, Sanedish said:

so i looked at the clock rate and it never goes below 4.4ghz, why is that?

What are you using to show that? Task Manager will not be accurate for idle clocks across all cores. 

 

If you want to see what's really happening, use Ryzen Master or the "Effective Clock Speed" section in HWiNFO's Sensors window.

[podkall]

Any PBO, Max Performance modes, background programs running that would cause it to go faster on?

[Shimejii]

Do you have CAM installed? My 5800x3D usually stays at 3600-4450.

 

What is running in your background? That can easily cause it.

[Sanedish]

8 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

is your power plan set to Performance instead of balanced?

performance

[Sanedish]

6 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

Do you have CAM installed?

Yes

6 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

My 5800x3D usually stays at 3600-4450.

you cannot really compare an 5800X3D with an CPU that has double the cores, should idle lower and peak clocks even higher than the 5800X3D overclocked [at least from my overclocking experiences].

6 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

What is running in your background? That can easily cause it.

Well nothing that's gonna freak out the cpu enaugh to never go below exactly 4.4ghz, above: no issue, below: never happens

[GuiltySpark_]

2 minutes ago, Sanedish said:

performance

First, don't do that. Its not helpful for anything but troubleshooting but its going to prevent the system from downclocking at idle. 

 

Second, use Ryzen Master or HWiNFO's Effective Clockspeed section to verify clocks, not Task manager.

[Hinjima]

3 minutes ago, Sanedish said:

performance

set it to balanced, that should fix it

[Sanedish]

2 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

First, don't do that. Its not helpful for anything but troubleshooting but its going to prevent the system from downclocking at idle. 

Huh, good to know.

How do i set it back? i kinda forgot.

3 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

Second, use Ryzen Master or HWiNFO's Effective Clockspeed section to verify clocks, not Task manager.

Imma check HWiNFO afterwards to see if it really helped. But it should still not idle at 60° with that cooler....

[Agall]

35 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

First, don't do that. Its not helpful for anything but troubleshooting but its going to prevent the system from downclocking at idle. 

 

Second, use Ryzen Master or HWiNFO's Effective Clockspeed section to verify clocks, not Task manager.

The only situation where its useful is if there's a specialty/specific application that requires high single threaded performance but doesn't trigger a proper P-state.

 

 

 

Example where I've done this, the application otherwise doesn't trigger a P-state, the whole purpose for the server too. Easier to change power plans than disable C-states.

[podkall]

45 minutes ago, GuiltySpark_ said:

First, don't do that. Its not helpful for anything but troubleshooting but its going to prevent the system from downclocking at idle. 

 

Second, use Ryzen Master or HWiNFO's Effective Clockspeed section to verify clocks, not Task manager.

is performance mode really that bad?

[Eigenvektor]

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

is performance mode really that bad?

It has no advantages on a modern system, at the very least.

 

It prevents the CPU from going into a low power state. It used to be a "secret tip" back when it took CPUs multiple milliseconds to switch from idle to max clocks, because that could (supposedly) result in noticeable lag while gaming. Modern CPUs switch their power state in nanoseconds. So you don't win anything, but simply waste power while the machine is idle.

 

43 minutes ago, Sanedish said:

How do i set it back? i kinda forgot.

Should be below Start > Settings > System > Power & battery

[GuiltySpark_]

1 minute ago, podkall said:

is performance mode really that bad?

Its not "bad" if you're using it for a reason. @Agall mentioned one above. 

 

Its just what it does is the opposite of what you want if low clocks/power/temps at idle are your goal. 

[podkall]

18 minutes ago, Agall said:

Example where I've done this, the application otherwise doesn't trigger a P-state, the whole purpose for the server too. Easier to change power plans than disable C-states.

isn't c state off by default in bios? or is it on by default?

[Agall]

6 hours ago, podkall said:

isn't c state off by default in bios? or is it on by default?

On by default, same with PCIe C-states that drop the bandwidth down to 1.1 to save power.