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64gb ram minimum for gaming in 2024 - Here’s why

64gb ram minimum for gaming might sound crazy, but it’s not to get higher fps that you add more ram:

 

SSD swap is reduced, which increases it’s lifespan, cause there’s less writing to the disk

You can multitask a lot more with performance dropping cause you’re out of RAM. You have a PC, not a console.

you can have multiple games open at once.

Your frametimes and game smoothness increases

If you have a many core CPU as well, you can even game while doing professional work or rendering in the background.

I have maced out 32gb of ram while having no games open at all, or just having 1 game open without anything else in the background. And games won’t be using less ram in the future, more like the opposite.

 

And regarding CPU’s with more cores, the same benefits apply. This is why benchmarks aren’t necessarily stupid, but they don’t show real world performance and gameplay, and the reviewers don’t talk about how the PC actually feels to use, that it feels faster without looking at numbers with more cores and RAM, things install faster, load faster, lag less and so on.

 

I also hope LTT will talk more about this in the future, instead of just using benchmarks. They have so much staff, surely somebody can take the time to actually daily drive difference types of PC’s, and report on the results.

 

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Fyi windows nowadays sees unused ram as wasted ram. So it caches stuff in it hence why it looks full but actually its all available.

 

Also nothing you said really made 64gb the min for gaming. In your usecase you reccommend 64gb for having a crapton open whilst gaming.

 

If you dont have many things open 16gb is still fine. 32gb is preffered since it gives more headroom and 64gb is just not needed

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Nah

It's a bit more of comfort that's all

It can be useful for people that just won't manage RAM and leave open a ton of useless stuff, but apart from that it's not needed

You can't play 2 games at the same time anyway (or maybe chess games, but it still don't need 64GB RAM)

SSD life extended from 50 years to 55 years is pointless too

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Nah.

Corps aren't your friends. "Bottleneck calculators" are BS. Only suckers buy based on brand. It's your PC, do what makes you happy.  If your build meets your needs, you don't need anyone else to "rate" it for you. And talking about being part of a "master race" is cringe. Watch this space for further truths people need to hear.

 

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11 minutes ago, kasdashd said:

64gb ram minimum for gaming might sound crazy,

Yes it does, but that depends on how crazy you are. Modded games can use up alot of RAM and sometimes it is needed to have few applications open messing and editing certain mods for games, but that is still far from the minimum as most gamers don't do that kind of work.

9 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

You can't play 2 games at the same time anyway

Lol, I do and I'm amazed that I can.

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18 minutes ago, kasdashd said:

64gb ram minimum for gaming might sound crazy, but it’s not to get higher fps that you add more ram:

 

SSD swap is reduced, which increases it’s lifespan, cause there’s less writing to the disk

You can multitask a lot more with performance dropping cause you’re out of RAM. You have a PC, not a console.

you can have multiple games open at once.

Your frametimes and game smoothness increases

If you have a many core CPU as well, you can even game while doing professional work or rendering in the background.

I have maced out 32gb of ram while having no games open at all, or just having 1 game open without anything else in the background. And games won’t be using less ram in the future, more like the opposite.

 

And regarding CPU’s with more cores, the same benefits apply. This is why benchmarks aren’t necessarily stupid, but they don’t show real world performance and gameplay, and the reviewers don’t talk about how the PC actually feels to use, that it feels faster without looking at numbers with more cores and RAM, things install faster, load faster, lag less and so on.

 

I also hope LTT will talk more about this in the future, instead of just using benchmarks. They have so much staff, surely somebody can take the time to actually daily drive difference types of PC’s, and report on the results.

 

Good writeup.  Wrong, but decently written at least.

 

Please don't start sentences with AND.  Not proper grammar.

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28 minutes ago, kasdashd said:

If you have a many core CPU as well, you can even game while doing professional work or rendering in the background.

I agree that this kind of user should have 64GB (or more) and I do suggest 64GB for high-end gaming systems, but for lower-budget ones, the money tends to be better spent on the CPU or graphics card (at least, it is for now).

 

E.g. I'd take the latter option every time: i3-12100, RX 6600, 64GB, versus i5-12400F, RX 6650 XT, 32GB.

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Just now, Tetras said:

I agree that this kind of user should have 64GB (or more) and I do suggest 64GB for high-end gaming systems, but for lower-budget ones, the money tends to be better spent on the CPU or graphics card (at least, it is for now). E.g. I'd take the latter option every time: i3-12100, RX 6600, 64GB, versus i5-12400F, RX 6650 XT, 32GB.

But that's not gaming.  It's gaming and productivity.

 

For gaming, 64GB isn't needed.  Unless we asterisk it with "and doing other shit too".

 

you can't have an argument that has caveats that large.

"Do what makes the experience better" - in regards to PCs and Life itself.

 

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16 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

Yes it does, but that depends on how crazy you are. Modded games can use up alot of RAM and sometimes it is needed to have few applications open messing and editing certain mods for games, but that is still far from the minimum as most gamers don't do that kind of work.

Basically just modded minecraft or whatever other games that support a copious amount of mods

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4 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Basically just modded minecraft or whatever other games that support a copious amount of mods

Pretty much. 

17 minutes ago, Tetras said:

I'd take the latter option every time: i3-12100, RX 6600, 64GB, versus i5-12400F, RX 6650 XT, 32GB.

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WIth DDR5, nah 16GB is still the minimum for gaming. 
32 or 48 if you really want to go balling. 

64 gives zero benifites even with heavy moded games, you can just go with 48. 

I have yet to page file my 32GB system. 


I would just avoid 24GB systems as that is single channel 

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3 hours ago, Hinjima said:

Are you working for a RAM brand and trying to sell more?

No, this is just my personal experience, and cause I think that people should buy as much as they can afford, to have very nice experience of using their computer many hours a day. And also, RAM, and SSD’s, have gotten so cheap lately that I can’t see any arguments against putting 64gb in your PC, especially if you wanna play the latest and most demanding UE5 games the next 5-10 years.

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3 hours ago, Dedayog said:

Good writeup.  Wrong, but decently written at least.

 

Please don't start sentences with AND.  Not proper grammar.

Grammar and grammar perfection is overrated, especially in your non native languages, and when using google translate. As long as the other person doesn’t misunderstand what you write, that’s all that matters, or it’s really firstworldproblems imo.

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Dang it, and I just upgraded to 32GB. 🤦‍♂️

Guess I'll have to buy even more RAM since reading this thread.

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OP is wrong.

 

In todays world we actually need 128GB of Ram , Any less than that and i consider your system a budget build only good for old games and surfing the web , Basically you have an office computer!

 

All the folk with 64GB of ram should feel bad that they only have 64GB , Don't start on the people with less than that because honestly i like to pretend they don't exist.... To make a slight deviation from a quote on the greatest , most unbiased website ever userbenchmark.

 

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