Do I need to Upgrade My PSU

[AlecM]

I have an Intel Core I7-13700f, a MSI Pro B660M-a cec Wifi DDR4 v2 MOBO, 16gb DDR4-3200 Ram, 1tb M.2 NVMe SSD, 240 MM Liquid cooling, an RTX 3060, and a 600W 80+ Gold PSU. If I want to upgrade to a RTX 4070 Super or 4070 Ti Super, Do i need to upgrade my PSU or will my current one be able to handle it? 

[jaslion]

Make and model of the psu please

 

As long as its decent sure

[filpo]

4 minutes ago, AlecM said:

600W 80+ Gold PSU

which brand and model? the 4070 super and 4070 ti super are quite efficient so unless your psu is Tier B and up then I'd say you can keep it

[AlecM]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

which brand and model? the 4070 super and 4070 ti super are quite efficient so unless your psu is Tier B and up then I'd say you can keep it

I'm not entirely sure. It was a prebuilt from IbuyPower. it was their TraceMeshI7N3601. 

 

[filpo]

3 minutes ago, AlecM said:

I'm not entirely sure. It was a prebuilt from IbuyPower. it was their TraceMeshI7N3601. 

 

I'd say upgrade it, maybe to something like this be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (BN505) - PCPartPicker

[AlecM]

6 minutes ago, jaslion said:

Make and model of the psu please

 

As long as its decent sure

I'm not sure, I'll have to check as soon as I can.

[AlecM]

3 minutes ago, filpo said:

I'd say upgrade it, maybe to something like this be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (BN505) - PCPartPicker

Ohh ok, I'll have to take a look at that. I'm on a tight budget right now since I'm a student, so i was hoping to spend as little as possible upgrading the GPU. I'll get the make and model to you as soon as I can just to be sure. 

[filpo]

Just now, AlecM said:

Ohh ok, I'll have to take a look at that. I'm on a tight budget rn since I'm a student. 

for gaming an amd card would be better for price to performance (7800 xt or 7900 xt)

for a cheaper psu - Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 (2024) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (PS-TPD-0750FNFAGU-P) - PCPartPicker

[AlecM]

1 minute ago, filpo said:

for gaming an amd card would be better for price to performance (7800 xt or 7900 xt)

for a cheaper psu - Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 (2024) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (PS-TPD-0750FNFAGU-P) - PCPartPicker

Ohh ok, that PSU looks do-able. And how do those cards compare in Ray tracing to the RTXs? 

[filpo]

Just now, AlecM said:

And how do those cards compare in Ray tracing to the RTXs? 

quite badly. A 7900 xt is essentially a 4070 super in RT, but better than a 4070 ti in rasterization 

[PDifolco]

2 minutes ago, AlecM said:

Ohh ok, I'll have to take a look at that. I'm on a tight budget right now since I'm a student, so i was hoping to spend as little as possible upgrading the GPU. I'll get the make and model to you as soon as I can just to be sure. 

Your system with a 4070 won't even need 500W, and barely 30W more than before (200W to 170W), your current PSU will be fine 

[AlecM]

Just now, filpo said:

quite badly. A 7900 xt is essentially a 4070 super in RT, but better than a 4070 ti in rasterization 

the 7900 looks more expensive than a 4070 Super and 4070Ti super

[AlecM]

Just now, PDifolco said:

Your system with a 4070 won't even need 500W, and barely 30W more than before (200W to 170W), your current PSU will be fine 

thats includes the 4070 super and 4070ti super? 

[filpo]

1 minute ago, AlecM said:

the 7900 looks more expensive than a 4070 Super and 4070Ti super

get one of the nvidia cards then. but the 7900 xt should be 75 bucks cheaper than the 4070 ti super (or somewhere there)

[podkall]

2 minutes ago, PDifolco said:

Your system with a 4070 won't even need 500W, and barely 30W more than before (200W to 170W), your current PSU will be fine 

actually sounds legit, the Ti Super is 600W recommended PSU with it's TDP being like 45% of the recommended PSU

[Tetras]

3 minutes ago, AlecM said:

i was hoping to spend as little as possible upgrading the GPU

The 4070 Super doesn't use that much more power than your current 3060 (+35 watts according to TPU's gaming average in the 4070 Super review), so if your current PSU can handle the 3060, then I think you'll be alright.

 

The 4070 Ti Super uses a big chunk more, around +90 watts, so if your PSU is only borderline, then this could be a problem.

 

That said, without knowing the quality/OEM of your unit, this is all just guesswork. A decent 600 could handle all/any of those cards.

[AlecM]

I'll get the make and Model of the PSU as soon as possible, within an hour or two. 

[AlecM]

6 minutes ago, podkall said:

actually sounds legit, the Ti Super is 600W recommended PSU with it's TDP being like 45% of the recommended PSU

Where did you get those stats? I am just curious for future reference. 

[podkall]

1 minute ago, AlecM said:

Where did you get those stats? I am just curious for future reference. 

Very good website:

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super.c4187

 

each GPU on the list is a clickable link that goes to that specific model's stats and it's % set to 100 for comparison

[AlecM]

3 minutes ago, podkall said:

Very good website:

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super.c4187

 

each GPU on the list is a clickable link that goes to that specific model's stats and it's % set to 100 for comparison

Ooooh Nice, Thank you! 

[jaslion]

51 minutes ago, AlecM said:

Ohh ok, that PSU looks do-able. And how do those cards compare in Ray tracing to the RTXs? 

Check the psu first and let us know if its a decent 600w you can power the cards mentiond here regardless

[AlecM]

1 hour ago, jaslion said:

Check the psu first and let us know if its a decent 600w you can power the cards mentiond here regardless

 

2 hours ago, jaslion said:

Make and model of the psu please

 

As long as its decent sure

 

2 hours ago, filpo said:

which brand and model? the 4070 super and 4070 ti super are quite efficient so unless your psu is Tier B and up then I'd say you can keep it

Here is the make and model 

[filpo]

1 minute ago, AlecM said:

 

 

Here is the make and model 

ye I'd upgrade it

[AlecM]

2 minutes ago, AlecM said:

 

 

Here is the make and model 

Sorry for taking so long to get it. 

[AlecM]

2 minutes ago, filpo said:

ye I'd upgrade it

How bad is it?