Is 4070Ti worth it over the 4070 Super?

[Mark Kaine]

just wondering how big the difference is since the 4070 Super model i want is only like 100 bucks cheaper than the average Ti. So how big is the difference, are the 100 bucks more worth it? 

 

[IkeaGnome]

I'd hardly call it worth it. 

 

[Hinjima]

3 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

just wondering how big the difference is since the 4070 Super model i want is only like 100 bucks cheaper than the average Ti. So how big is the difference, are the 100 bucks more worth it? 

 

Here are 3x 12 game averages without RayTracing at 1080p, 1440p and 4k! You decide if you want to spend the extra money or not   I would say no.

 

[Mister Woof]

The 4070 Super is a 19% performance uplift for 9% more money vs the normal 4070.

The 4070ti is a 7% performance uplift over the 4070 Super, but (at the cheapest of $725) costs 21% more.

 

Er, rather, no it is not worth it. I misread the thread title. The 4070 Super is worth it.

[IkeaGnome]

3 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

It's 19% performance uplift for 9% more money. Yes it's worth it.

How did you get that math?

142 is 94.6% of 150, so 5.4% difference at 1080p

105 is 93.75% of 112, so 6.25% difference at 1440p

58 is 92% of 63. so 8% difference at 4k.

 

I can't remember what country @Mark Kaine is in so I can't speak for specific prices in their country. On Newegg, the cheapest 4070 ti is $724 right now for the Ventus 2x in white. The 4070 Super Ventus 2x white is $620.

That's a 15% price difference.

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

How did you get that math?

142 is 94.6% of 150, so 5.4% difference at 1080p

105 is 93.75% of 112, so 6.25% difference at 1440p

58 is 92% of 63. so 8% difference at 4k.

 

I can't remember what country @Mark Kaine is in so I can't speak for specific prices in their country. On Newegg, the cheapest 4070 ti is $724 right now for the Ventus 2x in white. The 4070 Super Ventus 2x white is $620.

That's a 15% price difference.

4070s is 105fps at 1440p

4070 is 88fps at 1440p

105-88 = 17

17/88 = 19.3%

88*1.193 = 105

 

I rephrased my entire response because I can't read thread titles 

[IkeaGnome]

2 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

4070s is 105fps at 1440p

4070 is 88fps at 1440p

105-88 = 17

17/88 = 19.3%

88*1.193 = 105

Why are we using regular 4070 numbers?

[Mister Woof]

5 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

 

 

I rephrased my entire response because I can't read thread titles 

 

2 minutes ago, IkeaGnome said:

Why are we using regular 4070 numbers?

Combination of a little dyslexia and a TON of ADD

[Mark Kaine]

17 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

The 4070 Super is a 19% performance uplift for 9% more money vs the normal 4070.

The 4070ti is a 7% performance uplift over the 4070 Super, but (at the cheapest of $725) costs 21% more.

 

Er, rather, no it is not worth it. I misread the thread title. The 4070 Super is worth it.

yeah, mind you its only 25 bucks more (if you will) but that's like one of the most expensive super vs that ti... 

 

i was just curious about the perfect difference,  i agree that's generally not worth it then... now I'd just have to find a less overpriced white Super... 

 

guess the Ventus 2x then?

 

 

[Mister Woof]

2 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

yeah, mind you its only 25 bucks more (if you will) but that's like one of the most expensive super vs that ti... 

 

i was just curious about the perfect difference,  i agree that's generally not worth it then... now I'd just have to find a less overpriced white Super... 

 

guess the Ventus 2x then?

 

 

i've been generally unimpressed with 2 fan AIB cards. I have an ASUS KO 3070 and a friend has a 2 fan 4070 Zotac. Both really hot and loud. Also, ASUS RGB software is terrible. I disconnected the RGB cable.

 

If I was going to get a 2 fan card it would be the FE if I could

[Mister Woof]

Debauer was really impressed with the 4070S FE noise levels.

 

 

[Mark Kaine]

11 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

the cheapest 4070 ti is $724 right now for the Ventus 2x in white. The 4070 Super Ventus 2x white is $620.

ya... the prices are kinda irrelevant almost cause random af, i just wanted to know the performance diff, i guess.

 

FYI:

 

Gigabyte 4070 Super Aero OC (the one i want)

800 €

 

 

Inno 3D 4070Ti x3

829€

 

 

so that's where I'm coming from lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

[tuvok86]

if you have $800 you should buy the 4070Ti Super that's coming in a week, end of story, it's not that complicated guys

[Mister Woof]

3 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

ya... the prices are kinda irrelevant almost cause random af, i just wanted to know the performance diff, i guess.

 

FYI:

 

Gigabyte 4070 Super Aero OC (the one i want)

800 €

 

 

Inno 3D 4070Ti x3

829€

 

 

so that's where I'm coming from lol ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

yuk, don't buy the super if that's the price spread

[Mark Kaine]

5 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Debauer was really impressed with the 4070S FE noise levels.

 

 

too expensive (without even looking FE are always overpriced as hell here, unfortunately) 

 

 

FE simply doesn't exist here, unless you're "the Bauer" i guess

[Mister Woof]

Sucks but it's always the upsale isn't it? I wouldn't get the lower cards if that's the price difference.

[Mark Kaine]

9 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

yuk, don't buy the super if that's the price spread

so the Inno 3D 4070Ti is 3mm shorter (great cause my case has max 310mm gpu length) but its max tdp 285w, whereas the aero oc is 300mm (i guess it'll fit) and only 220w tdp, both should be ok with my 650w corsair RMi tho, correct? 

[Mark Kaine]

10 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Sucks but it's always the upsale isn't it? I wouldn't get the lower cards if that's the price difference.

mind you i could get ventus 2x for 659€, but i don't want to !

 

yeah... it sucks. xD

[Mister Woof]

wouldn't worry about power with these cards and a decent 650w unit

 

how much are AMD cards where you are?

[Alex Atkin UK]

52 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

yeah, mind you its only 25 bucks more (if you will) but that's like one of the most expensive super vs that ti... 

 

i was just curious about the perfect difference,  i agree that's generally not worth it then... now I'd just have to find a less overpriced white Super... 

 

guess the Ventus 2x then?

 

 

Yeah I think it would only make sense to go for the 4070 Ti SUPER over the 4070 SUPER.  The 4070 Ti is being made rather redundant with these new cards.

[Why_Me]

On 1/17/2024 at 1:26 PM, Mark Kaine said:

just wondering how big the difference is since the 4070 Super model i want is only like 100 bucks cheaper than the average Ti. So how big is the difference, are the 100 bucks more worth it? 

 

Out of the 4070 Super reviews I've seen so far the Gigabyte RTX 4070 Super Aorus Master 12GB comes out on top and that's before it's oc and that card is a oc monster compared to the other 4070 Supers. The drawback is that card has a MSRP of $700.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4070-super-aorus-master/  <--- review

 

For $100 more you can get a RTX 4070 Ti Super 16GB and from the leaked benchmarks that card won't be far behind the RTX 4080 16GB (non Super).

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-gpu-benchmarks-leak-10-percent-faster-4070-ti/