Water Cooling a Laptop for $30

[Other James]

Intel sent over a laptop with a Raptor Lake HX CPU in it. So we thought why not try water cooling it on a budget. But how long did it take before everything fell into chaos?

 

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[Lunar River]

since when has cpu undervolting been available again? didn't intel disable it because of plundervolt?

[passatgt]

Background music was pretty annoying imo

[ThatBlackAndWhiteGuy]

This seems like the cheapest solution to watercool a desktop too, I just cant think of a good way of soldering it to a GPU

[Orion_]

This video going up as Im working on water cooling my Scar 16 made my day 

 

 

[Orion_]

Seeing the guys getting this working was great after going through the struggle myself. Did this last year with 1/4 pipe I bent myself on a MSI GP66 (3080 11800h) and am doing it now again on my Scar 16 (4090/13980) but trying to find a more user friendly way to do it.

 

The MSI got a shunt mod later on (as well as a 1440p screen swap to take advantage of the performance gains) and has the WR for Time Spy for the hardware.

 

My original build used a BeQuiet AIO pump and I changed it out for a remote rad (EK CoolStream, Phanteks T30, and a pump + res) and got another few degrees off. With the final project on the GP66 my temps are down about 15-20* from stock with the fans completely off now. I use a 240mm rad, T30s, and Koolance QDC to keep

the laptop portable.

 

https://youtu.be/MfuLd8mdCcM?si=LHNHWvgni0I3SVVJ 

 

 

[Orion_]

1 hour ago, Lunar River said:

since when has cpu undervolting been available again? didn't intel disable it because of plundervolt?

It has been added back with the 13th gen HX chips and could be unlocked by modding the BIOS on the 11th gen (IIRC 10th as well). I don't think anyone has a way to get 12th gen laptops undervolted.

[Lunar River]

2 hours ago, Orion_ said:

It has been added back with the 13th gen HX chips and could be unlocked by modding the BIOS on the 11th gen (IIRC 10th as well). I don't think anyone has a way to get 12th gen laptops undervolted.

Well that's boring.

[danwat1234]

I hate plundervolt. Undervolting a great way to save energy. On Optiplex and Prodesk SFFs I can with 6-8th gen but 9th gen nope i assume because no BIOS version existed before plundervolt but I thought a modded BIOS could always get around it. There is a lock somewhere else too? I've seen Intel XTU use up a lot of clock cycles just sitting in the background. Throttlestop is more efficient in my experience. 

23:30 May have taken so long to boot because of memory training been wiped?

Edit: From Orion_'s post, sounds like CPU-level undervolt lock only exists on 12th gen that's weird..

[Indian pc builder]

What’s a good thermal epoxy?

[Orion_]

9 hours ago, danwat1234 said:

I hate plundervolt. Undervolting a great way to save energy. On Optiplex and Prodesk SFFs I can with 6-8th gen but 9th gen nope i assume because no BIOS version existed before plundervolt but I thought a modded BIOS could always get around it. There is a lock somewhere else too? I've seen Intel XTU use up a lot of clock cycles just sitting in the background. Throttlestop is more efficient in my experience. 

23:30 May have taken so long to boot because of memory training been wiped?

Edit: From Orion_'s post, sounds like CPU-level undervolt lock only exists on 12th gen that's weird..

Give this guide a look. I *believe* it will work for 9th gen but am not 100% sure. It is a quick how to on editing the BIOS flags that control the OC lock and CFG lock for undervolting. Think MSI advanced BIOS but without the GUI. I used it to unlock my Dell G15 with an 11800h after they locked things up in the BIOS on me one day.

 

[Orion_]

7 hours ago, Indian pc builder said:

What’s a good thermal epoxy?

Super curious on this too since they were talking about it in the video. I tried some epoxy off of amazon with horrible thermal conductivity (couldn't find anything over 1w/mk) and it didn't work at all. At idle it could cool the system a tinny bit better than with no fans on but as soon as I went into a game it couldn't keep up and thermal throttled just in menus.

[Minystreem]

What soldering iron where you guys using? It kinda looked like a pinecel but it had that huge stand.

[Quinnell]

What application were they using to get this On Screen Display? It doesn't look like MSI Afterburner.

[LMGcommunity]

On 12/30/2023 at 11:44 AM, Minystreem said:

What soldering iron where you guys using? It kinda looked like a pinecel but it had that huge stand.

Here you go.

[LMGcommunity]

On 12/30/2023 at 11:22 PM, Quinnell said:

What application were they using to get this On Screen Display? It doesn't look like MSI Afterburner.

Here you go.

[AlexTheGreatish]

On 12/26/2023 at 10:58 PM, Indian pc builder said:

What’s a good thermal epoxy?

 

On 12/27/2023 at 6:53 AM, Orion_ said:

Super curious on this too since they were talking about it in the video. I tried some epoxy off of amazon with horrible thermal conductivity (couldn't find anything over 1w/mk) and it didn't work at all. At idle it could cool the system a tinny bit better than with no fans on but as soon as I went into a game it couldn't keep up and thermal throttled just in menus.

I've used this stuff from MG Chemicals, it only has a thermal conductivity of 1.4W/mK but when assembling a heatsink the thermal conductivity of your adhesive is likely not going to be the bottleneck, tho solder is of course a lot better.

[Bitter]

27 minutes ago, AlexTheGreatish said:

 

I've used this stuff from MG Chemicals, it only has a thermal conductivity of 1.4W/mK but when assembling a heatsink the thermal conductivity of your adhesive is likely not going to be the bottleneck, tho solder is of course a lot better.

Naaaah just mix some arctic silver and super glue together eh - Alex probably at some point in the past or future

[Orion_]

2 hours ago, AlexTheGreatish said:

 

I've used this stuff from MG Chemicals, it only has a thermal conductivity of 1.4W/mK but when assembling a heatsink the thermal conductivity of your adhesive is likely not going to be the bottleneck, tho solder is of course a lot better.

Ill give that a shot, thank you. I just used this stuff from Amazon. I did it back to back with solder (on the Scar 16) and went from 36/28 idle with solder to ~54/50 idle with the glue (about the same as having the fans off). I'm trying to make something more user friendly to replicate with an adhesive or thermal putty + a bracket over solder since heating up the heat pipes isn't the safest thing in the world. Granted, the thikkness of the water block is a bit off-putting... 

 

Going on a trip with family tomorrow and when I get back Ill be getting things together for the laptop, the external radiator is about done. The bracket idea isn't really lining up great atm so using a few dabs of an adhesive + upsiren is looking like the most likely option at the moment. If all else fails I chose this RAM water block specifically for being able to solder it without the water chamber mounted then reassemble it without blocking any of the mounting points.

[Minystreem]

17 hours ago, LMGcommunity said:

Here you go.

Cool! I personally use a Hakko 888 but this one looks pretty cool!

[wONKEyeYEs]

Why the soundtrack?

Sounds like someone's watching a porno in the next room.

 

[RobAA]

I have a few thoughts.  First I think linus should have let the sodering up to the guy form the labs and not took the sodering iron and messed things up. Second what i would have love to have seen is the the bucket they used for the resavor it hey would have hooked the industual cooler to that resavor and chilled the water down to around 4 degrees C or around 39.2 degrees F.  around 4 degrees C or 39.2 degrees F is when water comes it most dense. 

 

Some times Linus you can just stand there and be cute and let the pros do it from creative labs.. It is okay to just stand there and be cute. you could stand there seem interested in what they are doing... talk with them to engage with them. act like you are learning as well... you do not have to be Mr. Know it all  

[Orion_]

On 1/2/2024 at 3:40 PM, AlexTheGreatish said:

 

I've used this stuff from MG Chemicals, it only has a thermal conductivity of 1.4W/mK but when assembling a heatsink the thermal conductivity of your adhesive is likely not going to be the bottleneck, tho solder is of course a lot better.

Wound up using Upsiren putty to keep it removable for now. Just have a line of it on the two major and two minor heat pipes with an Alpha Cool RAM water block and have a PEAK of 58/49 CPU/GPU in Exodus on ultra and a peak of 78* in R23 scoring 32500 on a 10 minute run. Thanks for the help! Definitely glad you called out using another TIM over solder because soldering this cold plate on would have been a nightmare. 

 

 

[Orion_]

Getting wrapped up on my Scar 16

 

 

[lala1]

Dobrý den můžu se zeptat co pipe conections with compressions did you use? Thanks for asnwering