Why is my ssd so slow?

[DietzDiet]

So I have this prebuilt pc with a 1tb kingfast ssd. When I first got it, im pretty sure the boot was pretty fast, it's been like 6+ months and now whenever I boot it, the pc takes like 10 MINUTES to be functional and lag free, as if I login right as it appears the pc is laggy and it takes awhile to go to normal. The ssd usage was also at 100% in performance task manager. How do I fix this? I literally had an hdd that was faster.

[HanZie82]

Run an anti-virus scan

Check your startup.
And in taskmanager click the 100% disk usage to see which program(s) are using up all the disk.

Also put some specs down, they do matter. A LOT!

[leclod]

What does crystal disk info say about ssd health ?

What does crystal disk mark say about ssd speed ?

It might have nothing to do with the ssd

 

[Biohazard777]

7 minutes ago, DietzDiet said:

So I have this prebuilt pc with a 1tb kingfast ssd. When I first got it, im pretty sure the boot was pretty fast, it's been like 6+ months and now whenever I boot it, the pc takes like 10 MINUTES to be functional and lag free, as if I login right as it appears the pc is laggy and it takes awhile to go to normal. The ssd usage was also at 100% in performance task manager. How do I fix this? I literally had an hdd that was faster.

Is the SSD nearly full? That can negatively effect the speed.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14962/the-toshiba-kioxia-bg4-1tb-ssd-review/4

It could also be just Windows being Windows...
Mine (W 11) managed to self destruct in 6 months, I couldn't even start in safe mode or do startup recovery (had to do a clean reinstall).
But before it completely died it had a period of about a month where it would take ~5 minutes instead of ~30 seconds to completely load up all of my startup programs.
There was no malware on the PC, nothing fancy installed as I use Windows only for occasional gaming and a few other things,
after the clean re-install I installed the same programs and games I had before and it was back to being fully functional in ~30 seconds...

Tl:DR
As a rule of thumb, make sure you have ~10% free space on your SSD.
If that doesn't help, do a clean Windows reinstall.

[ewitte]

6 hours ago, DietzDiet said:

So I have this prebuilt pc with a 1tb kingfast ssd. When I first got it, im pretty sure the boot was pretty fast, it's been like 6+ months and now whenever I boot it, the pc takes like 10 MINUTES to be functional and lag free, as if I login right as it appears the pc is laggy and it takes awhile to go to normal. The ssd usage was also at 100% in performance task manager. How do I fix this? I literally had an hdd that was faster.

Sounds defective.  I've seen a few that just got extremely slow instead of full death.  One of them was new in the box (Kingson)!

[DietzDiet]

6 hours ago, HanZie82 said:

Run an anti-virus scan

Check your startup.
And in taskmanager click the 100% disk usage to see which program(s) are using up all the disk.

Also put some specs down, they do matter. A LOT!

I've ran antiviruses before and I dont have any viruses, also it's pretty hard to find the exact app thats hogging up all my ssd, and heres my specs 

 

• CPU
  Intel Core i7-6700
• RAM
  16gb ddr4
• GPU
  GT 1030
• Storage
  1tb ssd 

[Dedayog]

7 hours ago, DietzDiet said:

So I have this prebuilt pc with a 1tb kingfast ssd. When I first got it, im pretty sure the boot was pretty fast, it's been like 6+ months and now whenever I boot it, the pc takes like 10 MINUTES to be functional and lag free, as if I login right as it appears the pc is laggy and it takes awhile to go to normal. The ssd usage was also at 100% in performance task manager. How do I fix this? I literally had an hdd that was faster.

You have put programs and apps that are taking a long time to load.

 

Or maybe it had something to do with this?

 

[DietzDiet]

On 10/3/2023 at 5:06 AM, leclod said:

What does crystal disk info say about ssd health ?

What does crystal disk mark say about ssd speed ?

It might have nothing to do with the ssd

 

What's crystal disk?

[DietzDiet]

22 hours ago, ewitte said:

Sounds defective.  I've seen a few that just got extremely slow instead of full death.  One of them was new in the box (Kingson)!

Really? Does it mean I would have to get a new one?

[DietzDiet]

21 hours ago, Dedayog said:

You have put programs and apps that are taking a long time to load.

 

Or maybe it had something to do with this?

 

I think it could be possible it's related to that but even after windows updates my ssd still feels slow most of the time, and I think even before the ram problem my ssd was still slow.

[DietzDiet]

On 10/3/2023 at 5:13 AM, Biohazard777 said:

Is the SSD nearly full? That can negatively effect the speed.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14962/the-toshiba-kioxia-bg4-1tb-ssd-review/4

It could also be just Windows being Windows...
Mine (W 11) managed to self destruct in 6 months, I couldn't even start in safe mode or do startup recovery (had to do a clean reinstall).
But before it completely died it had a period of about a month where it would take ~5 minutes instead of ~30 seconds to completely load up all of my startup programs.
There was no malware on the PC, nothing fancy installed as I use Windows only for occasional gaming and a few other things,
after the clean re-install I installed the same programs and games I had before and it was back to being fully functional in ~30 seconds...

Tl:DR
As a rule of thumb, make sure you have ~10% free space on your SSD.
If that doesn't help, do a clean Windows reinstall.

Alr bro, oh crap, the last time I checked my ssd had like 100-190 gbs of space left and I just checked, and uhh

so Ig it would be a good idea to clear some stuff up, and also wdym by windows died completely, what caused that?

[kokosnh]

https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskinfo/
 

https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskmark/

 

give us screenshot from both 

 

 

[DietzDiet]

38 minutes ago, kokosnh said:

https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskinfo/
 

https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskmark/

 

give us screenshot from both 

 

 

dawg what are these

i thought one of them was an ad at first

[Dedayog]

18 minutes ago, DietzDiet said:

dawg what are these

i thought one of them was an ad at first

The 2 other Editions are for people who like underage girls.   

[DietzDiet]

[DietzDiet]

9 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

The 2 other Editions are for people who like underage girls.   

BRO FRRRR (i didnt get it)

[Biohazard777]

1 hour ago, DietzDiet said:

Alr bro, oh crap, the last time I checked my ssd had like 100-190 gbs of space left and I just checked, and uhh

so Ig it would be a good idea to clear some stuff up,

Eh it is not so bad, like 10 GB free out of 950 GB would have been bad..
but yeah you should free it up a little.

 

1 hour ago, DietzDiet said:

and also wdym by windows died completely, what caused that?

I didn't do anything special to the OS: didn't use custom ISOs, no debloater scripts, no regeistry editing, no cracked software...
One day it was working fine, next day (probably after an update, not sure) it started taking 10x longer to be fully functional, then about a month later a game crashed and the OS froze, had to hold down power button and after that it just would not boot to Windows anymore... And no it isn't HW failure, since I dual boot and the Linux distro I'm using hasn't had any issues... Like I said, Windows being Windows (stable and reliable, it just works /s  ).

[DietzDiet]

52 minutes ago, Biohazard777 said:

Eh it is not so bad, like 10 GB free out of 950 GB would have been bad..
but yeah you should free it up a little.

 

I didn't do anything special to the OS: didn't use custom ISOs, no debloater scripts, no regeistry editing, no cracked software...
One day it was working fine, next day (probably after an update, not sure) it started taking 10x longer to be fully functional, then about a month later a game crashed and the OS froze, had to hold down power button and after that it just would not boot to Windows anymore... And no it isn't HW failure, since I dual boot and the Linux distro I'm using hasn't had any issues... Like I said, Windows being Windows (stable and reliable, it just works /s  ).

Alright ill probably free up some tdy, and lol, did you try to update your pc after it started to lag? And how do you setup a dual boot

[kokosnh]

Give us whole CDI screenshot, not just the 85% good status. 
 

[Biohazard777]

1 hour ago, DietzDiet said:

did you try to update your pc after it started to lag?

Yeah, I checked for updates multiple times manually, didn't resolve the issues for me.

I spent an evening googling for fixes and didn't find anything useful,
just typical windows troubleshooting steps: update everything, run sfc /scannow, do a clean install...

I tried everything except a clean install, as that would have wasted even more of my time... on something I use for leisure mostly.
 

1 hour ago, DietzDiet said:

And how do you setup a dual boot

Each OS goes on a separate SSD. That way you minimize the chances of Windows update f*** up your GRUB.
First I install one SSD and I install Windows on it.
Then I add the second SSD and install Linux on the 2nd SSD.
From Linux I update GRUB so it can see both Linux and Windows boot partitions.
In BIOS I select the the SSD with the Linux boot manager to be 1st.
Each time I restart / turn on the PC (well in this case a laptop) I'm greeted by GRUB and I have 5 seconds to pick which OS I want to run (if I don't do anything it auto-picks last used OS).

 

Here is the funny thing, 6 moths ago I bought two new 2TB SSDs (same brand and model) to replace my old two 1TB SSDs, wanted the extra space and a piece of mind.
Linux SSD was cloned from the older 1TB SSD to one of the new SSDs,
and for Windows old 1TB SSD I decided I will not be cloning anything and I just did a clean install of W11 on one of the new 2TB SSDs.
Essentially my Linux install is 2+ years old, and Windows 11 is 6 months old...
Like I said no major issues with my Linux OS in that time period,
a relatively fresh Windows OS install didn't even manage to make it half a year...
They use the same hardware except the SSDs they are one, and the SSDs are pretty much new and healthy.
Oh and I use Linux way more (like 5x-10x more) than I use Windows.
New* 2TB SSD with Windows on it:

Spoiler

 New* 2TB SSD with Linux on it:

Spoiler

*These SSDs are ~6 months old, installed both of them on the same day in my laptop.

Anyhow don't want to derail your thread,
just saying that at the end of the day there is solid chance there is nothing wrong with your SSD but your Windows might need a clean re install...
Also, trying to fix anything Windows related is probably gonna end up eating more of your time than re installing.

[DietzDiet]

1 hour ago, Biohazard777 said:

Yeah, I checked for updates multiple times manually, didn't resolve the issues for me.

I spent an evening googling for fixes and didn't find anything useful,
just typical windows troubleshooting steps: update everything, run sfc /scannow, do a clean install...

I tried everything except a clean install, as that would have wasted even more of my time... on something I use for leisure mostly.
 

Each OS goes on a separate SSD. That way you minimize the chances of Windows update f*** up your GRUB.
First I install one SSD and I install Windows on it.
Then I add the second SSD and install Linux on the 2nd SSD.
From Linux I update GRUB so it can see both Linux and Windows boot partitions.
In BIOS I select the the SSD with the Linux boot manager to be 1st.
Each time I restart / turn on the PC (well in this case a laptop) I'm greeted by GRUB and I have 5 seconds to pick which OS I want to run (if I don't do anything it auto-picks last used OS).

 

Here is the funny thing, 6 moths ago I bought two new 2TB SSDs (same brand and model) to replace my old two 1TB SSDs, wanted the extra space and a piece of mind.
Linux SSD was cloned from the older 1TB SSD to one of the new SSDs,
and for Windows old 1TB SSD I decided I will not be cloning anything and I just did a clean install of W11 on one of the new 2TB SSDs.
Essentially my Linux install is 2+ years old, and Windows 11 is 6 months old...
Like I said no major issues with my Linux OS in that time period,
a relatively fresh Windows OS install didn't even manage to make it half a year...
They use the same hardware except the SSDs they are one, and the SSDs are pretty much new and healthy.
Oh and I use Linux way more (like 5x-10x more) than I use Windows.
New* 2TB SSD with Windows on it:

  Hide contents

 New* 2TB SSD with Linux on it:

  Hide contents

*These SSDs are ~6 months old, installed both of them on the same day in my laptop.

Anyhow don't want to derail your thread,
just saying that at the end of the day there is solid chance there is nothing wrong with your SSD but your Windows might need a clean re install...
Also, trying to fix anything Windows related is probably gonna end up eating more of your time than re installing.

Would'nt needing to reinstall windows completely wipe your files? 

[DietzDiet]

1 hour ago, kokosnh said:

Give us whole CDI screenshot, not just the 85% good status. 
 

[Biohazard777]

8 minutes ago, DietzDiet said:

Would'nt needing to reinstall windows completely wipe your files? 

Yeah of course.
First you'd need to backup any personal data to an external drive / nas / cloud (whatever you like),
and you'd have to install all the programs / games again...
Which makes it a nice little waste of time. But still, it is typically faster than trying to figure out what went wrong with the POS .

As for me personally, like I said I mostly use it for gaming so not much data to backup (game saves are already in the cloud), and my download speeds are pretty good so re-installing games doesn't take too long.

[DietzDiet]

1 hour ago, Biohazard777 said:

Yeah of course.
First you'd need to backup any personal data to an external drive / nas / cloud (whatever you like),
and you'd have to install all the programs / games again...
Which makes it a nice little waste of time. But still, it is typically faster than trying to figure out what went wrong with the POS .

As for me personally, like I said I mostly use it for gaming so not much data to backup (game saves are already in the cloud), and my download speeds are pretty good so re-installing games doesn't take too long.

Would this keep the personal files?

[Biohazard777]

2 minutes ago, DietzDiet said:

Would this keep the personal files?

It would, but generally speaking it is always a good idea to backup what is important to external storage / nas / cloud before doing a reset.
Also, reset might or might not fix the issue... the only way to be sure it isn't something software related would be to do a clean install.