Any word on when the week of downtime officially ends?

[schwarzerrogen]

14 hours ago, m9x3mos said:

If they go entertainment only I think that would be detrimental as well. 

What's the point of doing reviews with graphs if it isn't anything but entertainment. 

Plus that would put the labs investment to waste. 

I seriously doubt that they will do that. 

All YT content about technology is entertainment. If you take everything a YT video says as 100% unequivocal truth then there's an issue, and it's you. While someone's testing may be 'trusted and accurate', it's only accurate for the exact parameters they tested in. You could have the same hardware as the used test bench for a GPU, for example, and get radically different results. There isn't a perfect science or method to test and benchmark computer components due to the myriad of factors that can pop-up.

 

[LogicalDrm]

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[m9x3mos]

1 hour ago, schwarzerrogen said:

All YT content about technology is entertainment. If you take everything a YT video says as 100% unequivocal truth then there's an issue, and it's you. While someone's testing may be 'trusted and accurate', it's only accurate for the exact parameters they tested in. You could have the same hardware as the used test bench for a GPU, for example, and get radically different results. There isn't a perfect science or method to test and benchmark computer components due to the myriad of factors that can pop-up.

 

I never said it would be 100% truth.

But there is good science on how to do comparative benchmarking. 

There are a number of factors that can be controlled for and documented that the results can be replicated. 

For instance testing graphics cards you use the fans bench, clean install of windows, same settings, locked cpu frequencies etc.

[Mrtoyou]

I feel like the longer LMG goes without posting new content could mean they are making more significant changes than they first anticipated. Hopefully we have a Wan Show this evening to restart things and bring us up to date. Today is what 10 days so we should be hearing something soon.

[RoseLuck462]

It’s been a week, where is everyone?

[ImperialKnightErrant]

If LMG needs more time to get their work processes and policies in place, then I'm all for it. It's ready when it's ready typically ends with better results, than trying to hit an arbitrary deadline

[Flajavin]

It will be nice if the first content after the break is the WAN show.

[merch22]

7 minutes ago, Flajavin said:

It will be nice if the first content after the break is the WAN show.

I think they should post some content before the WAN SHOW.

I was wondering if they could explain what and where they paid attention in the production and the changes in the production process in a story rather than text.

Make no mistake, the WAN SHOW is a more important piece than we thought.

So from now on maybe it would be better to include a formal section in the WAN SHOW like a commentary of the past week videos.

[Flajavin]

3 minutes ago, merch22 said:

I think they should post some content before the WAN SHOW.

I was wondering if they could explain what and where they paid attention in the production and the changes in the production process in a story rather than text.

Make no mistake, the WAN SHOW is a more important piece than we thought.

So from now on maybe it would be better to include a formal section in the WAN SHOW like a commentary of the past week videos.

Yes, posting some new video before would be good also, but there are only a few hours left until the WAN Show(or maybe almost an entire day..depending on when they start) so I was thinking more in terms that I hope that they don't skip this week WAN Show also.

[Rolling2405]

On 8/22/2023 at 3:04 PM, Fire_Burns_22 said:

I can't see them taking anymore than a week off. It would be hard to believe they could afford it. Aside from the pure lost revenue from a week of no new videos/sponsorship dollars etc., just in payroll/benefits they have probably sacrificed over $250,000 by shutting down production for a week. Combine that with the fact that they will likely be coming back in a less profitable form, financially, this was a HUGE deal for them to do. 

Are you making educated guesses or are you just guessing? How are you coming up with your numbers???

[LogicalDrm]

3 hours ago, RoseLuck462 said:

It’s been a week, where is everyone?

Reading announcements made, it was only stated that production would start, not exactly that any videos would be posted. Saturday and Sunday are prime-time days for any release, so those are days to be watched for main channel content.

 

Personally I think they shouldn't do WAN Show. And if they do, it shouldn't be in regular format, but more of panel discussion between CEO, Linus and Gary (maybe someone else too). No sponsor spots, no merch messages answered. But rather addressing core questions and worries raised by community. Even better would be to use external host, but I don't think they have that luxury in Vancouver with other big-name Youtubers.

[Fire_Burns_22]

2 hours ago, Rolling2405 said:

Are you making educated guesses or are you just guessing? How are you coming up with your numbers???

Just an educated guess... We know they have over 120 employees. Most of their employees are going to be specially skilled individuals, meaning they're not going to be minimum or probably even average wages. Most sites I saw put the average wage in BC at 69-75k per year. Retirement contributions and other benefits could easily be 25k per employee per year. So I just took the simple math of 100k/52 puts us well over 200k for just a week, and that's before accounting for the engineers, and management that will probably be making significantly more than the average employee. 

[Kingbasa]

4 hours ago, RoseLuck462 said:

It’s been a week, where is everyone?

i guess bingo

 

telling you as a resident evil fan...

[merch22]

7 minutes ago, Fire_Burns_22 said:

Just an educated guess... We know they have over 120 employees. Most of their employees are going to be specially skilled individuals, meaning they're not going to be minimum or probably even average wages. Most sites I saw put the average wage in BC at 69-75k per year. Retirement contributions and other benefits could easily be 25k per employee per year. So I just took the simple math of 100k/52 puts us well over 200k for just a week, and that's before accounting for the engineers, and management that will probably be making significantly more than the average employee. 

If you take into account the infrastructure they have, the amount of money is only going to get bigger.

 I don't want to compare it to a factory. But realistically shutting down a production line is really like burning money.

Hopefully this shutdown will lead to an overall increase in productivity.

[MaxiTB]

1 hour ago, LogicalDrm said:

Reading announcements made, it was only stated that production would start, not exactly that any videos would be posted. Saturday and Sunday are prime-time days for any release, so those are days to be watched for main channel content.

 

Personally I think they shouldn't do WAN Show. And if they do, it shouldn't be in regular format, but more of panel discussion between CEO, Linus and Gary (maybe someone else too). No sponsor spots, no merch messages answered. But rather addressing core questions and worries raised by community. Even better would be to use external host, but I don't think they have that luxury in Vancouver with other big-name Youtubers.

At this point it would be interesting to hear anything... complete radio silence usually feels like someone is just waiting out the storm, followed by a warm breeze of stated intentions fizzling out into business as usual.

[LogicalDrm]

8 minutes ago, MaxiTB said:

At this point it would be interesting to hear anything... complete radio silence usually feels like someone is just waiting out the storm, followed by a warm breeze of stated intentions fizzling out into business as usual.

On the other hand, poorly thought and executed reactions only cause more issues. Its the actions that matter, not how its communicated to public. You can see that from any apology video/statement made. 

[Basti0815]

46 minutes ago, MaxiTB said:

At this point it would be interesting to hear anything... complete radio silence usually feels like someone is just waiting out the storm, followed by a warm breeze of stated intentions fizzling out into business as usual.

Whenever they speak out, there will always be those who then insinuate something again and have something to grumble about.

In the current situation, there is no "right". They should just do whatever fits their schedule and then I hope that the normal program starts again, I want to continue to be entertained and no longer feel like watching an inactive channel.

[avg123]

Will there be WAN show today?

[Erioch]

6 hours ago, Flajavin said:

It will be nice if the first content after the break is the WAN show.

I was thinking the same thing.

[pauloforte]

8 hours ago, ImperialKnightErrant said:

If LMG needs more time to get their work processes and policies in place, then I'm all for it. It's ready when it's ready typically ends with better results, than trying to hit an arbitrary deadline

Agreed. People jonesing for the next video and putting pressure on content content content, and quantity over quality, is:

1. what got us in this mess in the first place, and
2. what everyone keeps blaming AAA game companies for doing, when they release half-baked major titles to meet an arbitrary corporate deadline.

I often thought of this during many-a WAN show, when Linus rants randomly about some comment or chat he read and blows it up to high hell: Linus should stop paying too much attention to the vocal minority of nay-sayers and haters. These will always exist. There will always be people disagreeing with anything you do for whatever reason.

Just do your thing. Take your time. Everything will be alright, if your heart is in the right place.

 

[digitalscream]

7 hours ago, Flajavin said:

It will be nice if the first content after the break is the WAN show.

If it is, the rest of the management team will be just off-camera with their fingers hovering over a big red MUTE button

[ARitz Cracker]

8 hours ago, ImperialKnightErrant said:

If LMG needs more time to get their work processes and policies in place, then I'm all for it. It's ready when it's ready typically ends with better results, than trying to hit an arbitrary deadline

Lol, you just made me realize that one of GN's biggest concern is LMG rushing to hit arbitrary deadlines, and the first thing they did was to set an arbitrary deadline.

but hey, maybe the continued silence shows that they are learning

[Da Grunt]

I just wanted to say, does anyone else miss them as much as I do? It's clear mistakes have been made but at no point did I ever stop believing in their mission. Thank you Linus, for being the bad ass that I trust to give me my tech news. I apologize for starting a new topic but I wanted to give you guys the praise you deserve. Internet drama can be ridiculous at times, so I needed to say, WE SUPPORT YOU.

[LogicalDrm]

1 minute ago, Da Grunt said:

I just wanted to say, does anyone else miss them as much as I do? It's clear mistakes have been made but at no point did I ever stop believing in their mission. Thank you Linus, for being the bad ass that I trust to give me my tech news. I apologize for starting a new topic but I wanted to give you guys the praise you deserve. Internet drama can be ridiculous at times, so I needed to say, WE SUPPORT YOU.

Your thread has been merged to another thread with discussion about the break.

[Basti0815]

4 minutes ago, Da Grunt said:

I just wanted to say, does anyone else miss them as much as I do? It's clear mistakes have been made but at no point did I ever stop believing in their mission. Thank you Linus, for being the bad ass that I trust to give me my tech news. I apologize for starting a new topic but I wanted to give you guys the praise you deserve. Internet drama can be ridiculous at times, so I needed to say, WE SUPPORT YOU.

Same here. Haters gonna hate, can't change this. But there are enough people who were and will be entertained. And these people miss LTT & Co.