What to Upgrade From a 3060 Ti

[Daphne97]

Hello everyone, a month ago I opened a thread about my pc that wont boot and turns out my graphics card was broken. I sent it to warranty and they sent a replacement card which was also broken, so, I asked for a refund and getting a new card myself this time!

 

My specs are

Asus Prime B450M-K II mATX Motherboard

SPECDelta 650W Corsair PSU

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 CPU (no x or xt)

and 16 gigs of 3200 mhz DDR4 RAM.

 

I am not sure about getting a 3070 ti or 3080 would be logical when 4070 is already released, but their prices seem nicer not going to lie. 4070 Ti seems like over my budget slightly but if I can use this setup for longer maybe I can stretch my budget a little bit more. I am not sure where diminishing returns start and performance gain is neglegible  They all seem like solid choices! Thank you for your opinions

[Eigenvektor]

The 4060 Ti is only marginally faster than the 3060 Ti, unless you can make use of DLSS3 and even slightly slower in some scenarios (due to less memory bandwidth, 288 GB/s vs 448 GB/s bandwidth for the RTX 3060 Ti).

 

The 4070 Ti should be a nice upgrade, but also a pricey one. Speaking of which, you should probably mention the maximum budget you have. I would likely go with a used 30-series card, the 40-series is quite expensive still.

[Princess Luna]

RX6950XT

[bezza...]

personally i would go 7900xt or 6900xt

[filpo]

29 minutes ago, Daphne97 said:

I am not sure about getting a 3070 ti or 3080 would be logical when 4070 is already released, but their prices seem nicer not going to lie. 4070 Ti seems like over my budget slightly but if I can use this setup for longer maybe I can stretch my budget a little bit more. I am not sure where diminishing returns start and performance gain is neglegible  They all seem like solid choices! Thank you for your opinions

What's your budget?

Depending on your budget

Lower budget - ASRock Challenger D OC Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB Video Card (RX6700XT CLD 12GO) - PCPartPicker

Mid budget - XFX Speedster SWFT 319 Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card (RX-68XTAQFD9) - PCPartPicker

high budget - XFX Speedster MERC 319 Radeon RX 6950 XT 16 GB Video Card (RX-695XATBD9) - PCPartPicker 

[Daphne97]

@Eigenvektor My budget is around the 750 dollars MSRP but I live in Turkey and we have applied Erdogan tax for everything we buy. So a 4070 Ti is slightly over 1000 dollars in my country, but I think its better to specify the budget for the original prices intended lol. I guess its the retail price for the 3080 and 4070 but I cant extend it to cover 4070 Ti. I really dont want a second hand card after two broken cards sent for warranty to be honest.

 

3080 has more VRAM than my original card and its prices around the same for 4070 but I genuinely dont know where to stop looking for better cards I really dont need to play everything at maximum settings but I want something capable for years to come.

 

@bezza...@Princess Luna @filpoNever had an AMD card before but I would like to be able to use ray tracing for supporting games. I know AMD has support for ray tracing aswell but I'm not sure they will be as easily available as Nvidia cards.

[filpo]

1 minute ago, Daphne97 said:

@bezza...@Princess Luna Never had an AMD card before but I would like to be able to use ray tracing for supporting games. I know AMD has support for ray tracing aswell but I'm not sure they will be as easily available as Nvidia cards.

I would get the 4070/4070 ti then. Either that or get this 3080 used (430 bucks) - https://www.ebay.com/itm/204353404319

[Eigenvektor]

Just now, filpo said:

I would get the 4070/4070 ti then. Either that or get this 3080 used (430 bucks) - https://www.ebay.com/itm/204353404319

That's sold in the US though. So OP would need to pay import tax on top of that.

[Princess Luna]

From the look I took both the RX6950XT and the RTX 4070 costs roughly the same in Turkey and they are the two higher end cards still within your budget.

 

The RX6950XT is faster than the RTX 4070 in both rasterization and ray tracing. So I think it's a no brainer here...

[Agall]

45 minutes ago, Daphne97 said:

Hello everyone, a month ago I opened a thread about my pc that wont boot and turns out my graphics card was broken. I sent it to warranty and they sent a replacement card which was also broken, so, I asked for a refund and getting a new card myself this time!

 

My specs are

Asus Prime B450M-K II mATX Motherboard

SPECDelta 650W Corsair PSU

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 CPU (no x or xt)

and 16 gigs of 3200 mhz DDR4 RAM.

 

I am not sure about getting a 3070 ti or 3080 would be logical when 4070 is already released, but their prices seem nicer not going to lie. 4070 Ti seems like over my budget slightly but if I can use this setup for longer maybe I can stretch my budget a little bit more. I am not sure where diminishing returns start and performance gain is neglegible  They all seem like solid choices! Thank you for your opinions

Operating within a 650W PSU limitation, unfortunately my recommendation would be something like an RTX 4070.

 

GIGABYTE NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Overclock Gaming 12GB WINDFORCE GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 ATX Graphics Card GV-N4070WF3 OC -12GD - Newegg - Newegg.com

GIGABYTE NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 WINDFORCE OC 12G GDDR6X PCI Express 4.0 Graphics Card Black GV-N4070WF3OC-12GD - Best Buy

 

For $600 its decent value if you're wanting DLSS3 and decent RT within the power budget of your system, without going lower like a 4060ti (where you would get markedly lower performance on a B450 PCIe 3.0 capable motherboard). It'll run without issue in PCIe 3.0 x16 comparably and won't exceed your PSU's limitations with room to overclock.

 

Otherwise you'd have to spend markedly less, like an RX 6750 XT if you don't care for RT performance and/or DLSS3. You're at the minimum PSU recommendation at 650W at that point however.

[bezza...]

39 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

From the look I took both the RX6950XT and the RTX 4070 costs roughly the same in Turkey and they are the two higher end cards still within your budget.

 

The RX6950XT is faster than the RTX 4070 in both rasterization and ray tracing. So I think it's a no brainer here...

what this guy said...

[Daphne97]

Thank you all for your input! 

[Paul17]

On 5/31/2023 at 5:07 PM, bezza... said:

what this guy said...

Agreed, but he says his PSU is only 650W and I think that is too low for a power hungry 6900 series card?   Thus, he'd have to factor in a PSU swap in the cost?   

[Princess Luna]

1 hour ago, Paul17 said:

Agreed, but he says his PSU is only 650W and I think that is too low for a power hungry 6900 series card?   Thus, he'd have to factor in a PSU swap in the cost?   

It's fine, total system consumption will peak at 500w, My i7 10700KF+RX6900XT never crossed it and runs flawlessly on a TX650M.

 

They always over shoot the wattage because (specially in the past) people would buy atrociously bad PSU units, so having a large wattage headroom would keep things on the safer side, but the truth is a normal desktop with an i7/i9-r7/r9 and a 6950XT will never draw more wattage than a 650W decent unit can provide.

 

I personally disagree with the take of going 4070 due their PSU since as pointed it does not matter.

[Agall]

On 6/3/2023 at 8:02 AM, Princess Luna said:

It's fine, total system consumption will peak at 500w, My i7 10700KF+RX6900XT never crossed it and runs flawlessly on a TX650M.

 

They always over shoot the wattage because (specially in the past) people would buy atrociously bad PSU units, so having a large wattage headroom would keep things on the safer side, but the truth is a normal desktop with an i7/i9-r7/r9 and a 6950XT will never draw more wattage than a 650W decent unit can provide.

 

I personally disagree with the take of going 4070 due their PSU since as pointed it does not matter.

I personally try to stay within the manufacturer's recommendations regarding something as important as the supplied power, especially in my recommendation to others. I know enough about electrical engineering to assume the engineers who built the graphics card are considering more than steady state or extended peak draw to make their recommendation calculation.

 

Minimum recommendation at least and/or 50-65% steady state loading for peak efficiency (generally). Just because you can ride the lightning on PSU capacity doesn't mean you should.